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KY says he is "not concerned" with the FP loss. He seems to think it will make a difference if I say that.
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I claimed to attempt to Mind Meld with Orange before he said he did a hibernation trance. Logically, I had some kind of knowledge of an action being blocked on Orange, whether it was Mind Melding or something else. Which means logically I could not have targeted FRAYDO. I have 30 FP unaccounted for in a non night special action, which is my second T2 Learning, so the chart is correct on that. No, I cannot explain why KY lost 40 FP. He says he is not allowed to tell me.
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Never seen it. Additionally we suspect Voe because of the rule of 2.
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Orangep47, the Earth King has invited you to Lake Laogai. We suspect Irish.
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I've connected with KY's ghost. Also my mind meld with Orange didn't work.
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That's unverifiable tbh. All we know of this is that he claimed it. 22h till day start?
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Then again, town have guns and other rogue "negative" options available to them, so I'm not sold on the opposite either. This is a game of guesses though and sometimes you've gotta go with your best info and hunch at the time.
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Yup. For obvious reasons I'm not sold on TIM being the person he claims to be, especially with the "steal FP from people around you" thing. In any mafia game where people had actions like this, they've always ended up as third party AT BEST.
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I guess we do have the sense ability Nodlied used. It shows that Irishman was at least light at the time, and it transcends hardclaims, since it was a direct mind meld action.
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Yeah I'm a little concerned about that. Even if Nodlied does die and does flip as sith, how do we know TIM isn't still sith?
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My vote won't matter. It's less than an hour before hammer and too many are voting you as sith & Nodlied as champion to get it to change.
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I imagine somebody would have spoken up if they had.
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If it was Friday I could join, but too bad I guess.
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The wording doesn't say "all," specifically, but it says I'll get the results of their Night/Rest actions, in addition to me sending them mine. It's possible that dark actions are hidden from scrutiny. We can't know, only guess.
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I'm inclined to believe TIM now. Nodlied keeps pushing the cop thing and is using that as his alibi. While Cat5 and I did both check on Nodlied, there are plenty of explanations for using #sense, which btw, isn't an action limited to you Nodlied, self-proclaimed cop. Also Nodlied, you are trying to get the vote off of yourself, whereas Irish is completely willing to participate in the duel. Things are stacking against you.
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If his claim is bogus, then it follows that he has some agenda. Like sith agenda. Town don't just make this sort of stuff up, because they don't want to accidentally target their own.
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Irish just accused you. And you still refer to sith as "some sith out there." Like you're not really willing to acknowledge Irish's claim.
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Nodlied, I want to believe you, but the more I think about it, the more I think both sith and jedi can learn and use #sense. So it's not really an exclusive cop action.. Also this response to Irish isn't much of a counterclaim. "What's with that sudden offensive" is that he claims to have checked you and got a dark result. If this really happened, of course he's going to be offensive! If not, then you're right. But the way you're fighting him off seems really flimsy to me.
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##vote champion Nodlied ##vote sith TheIrishman I don't think who gets which vote matters very much except when it comes to 1) who goes first and 2) issuing challenges. Anyone who's alive can correct me if I'm wrong.
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Irish stole Sunflower's force points last night. Hard claimed that he got a "dark" result with sense on Nodlied last night. Previously, Nodlied had used sense on Irish and gotten a light result. Why would a dark player use sense? Why would Irish invent a dark result on Nodlied? It's very fishy both ways, so we should get something useful if we put both of them up for a duel.
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Guys are we alright with a duel between Nodlied and Irish? The result should be very informative and confirm whether or not Irish's claim is true. It's by far our strongest lead so far today.
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Typically in games this large with two mafia players, there are some third party or neutral players around. AND nightkills. So far we haven't suspected/seen any of that. If there are no gray jedi present, the balance to this is either a really strong sith power, or more sith numbers. I'd look at the votes for last night's duel with FRAYDO as sith, indicating both Irish and Nodlied, but since FRAYDO is still alive and unflipped, I'm not even 100% sure that this is a good lead.
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Irish, if I was you, and really believed that I got a dark result on Nodlied, I'd be hammering that point home a lot more than you are right now. Now I'm waiting for Nodlied's counterclaim. If sith were NOT connected at the start, then the whole point of holo-communicators available for everybody would be for the sith to sense each other and then generate a scum doc using the holo-communicators. If this is the case, it removes Nodlied's sense alibi. Cat5 and I both saw him use sense and we reported it at nearly the exact same time right at day start, so that part is not in question. But if he was seeking out his partner...
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Nodlied's FP went down by 10. Is that enough to corrupt someone with fear?
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Continuing on the Irish-is-a-sith thought, either there's more than one sith besides Irish, or he can win by getting the FBI to fill with red before we nab him. If Irish is correct, and Nodlied has dark in him, why would Nodlied use sense to discover whether other people are light or dark?