Discuss [GAME OVER] Apocalypse Rising Mafia II: Dark Night

[OrangeP47]

1 minute ago, ChopBam said:

If you were a town ChopBam, what would you do at this point? I have kind of a hard time reading you as town after this is and vote, and also knowing your meta.

My town meta is the same as my scum meta, deliberately so.

[ChopBam]

Just now, OrangeP47 said:

My town meta is the same as my scum meta, deliberately so.

This push in particular though reads sour to me, knowing my own alignment and how you've leaned into the joke votes.

[ChopBam]

Also you should totally know by now that I'm always hedging as town. You should know this.

[OrangeP47]

1 minute ago, ChopBam said:

This push in particular though reads sour to me, knowing my own alignment and how you've leaned into the joke votes.

I leaned into the joke votes?

[OrangeP47]

Just now, OrangeP47 said:

I leaned into the joke votes?

Oh, you mean the fact that the joke votes were still on you? No seriously I didn't realize that.  Those people should get here and see what's going on and decide legitimately.

[ChopBam]

Just now, OrangeP47 said:

I leaned into the joke votes?

Even if they're jokey, it's momentum on me. Easy!

 

[OrangeP47]

Just now, ChopBam said:

Even if they're jokey, it's momentum on me. Easy!

 

At this point... one is yourself... and the other is Shade... I'm confident Shade can do what he wants, and you are always free to do what you want.

[ChopBam]

3 minutes ago, OrangeP47 said:

At this point... one is yourself... and the other is Shade... I'm confident Shade can do what he wants, and you are always free to do what you want.

Who's hedging now??? 🤔

[OrangeP47]

2 minutes ago, ChopBam said:

Who's hedging now??? 🤔

What I'm doing is invalidating your point

[ChopBam]

8 minutes ago, ChopBam said:

Also you should totally know by now that I'm always hedging as town. You should know this.

@OrangeP47 Soooo what makes me scum? You have less of a case on me than there was on FRAYDO. At least with that there was a roleblock and a lack of a night kill.

[OrangeP47]

Just now, ChopBam said:

@OrangeP47 Soooo what makes me scum? You have less of a case on me than there was on FRAYDO. At least with that there was a roleblock and a lack of a night kill.

Read my big post where I voted you.

[ChopBam]

1 minute ago, OrangeP47 said:

Read my big post where I voted you.

And read the thing I wrote in response to what you wrote in the big post, and then quoted my own thing after you didn't respond to it and now still aren't responding to it.

[OrangeP47]

3 minutes ago, ChopBam said:

And read the thing I wrote in response to what you wrote in the big post, and then quoted my own thing after you didn't respond to it and now still aren't responding to it.

I literally do not see the post you're talking about.

[ChopBam]

My point is that you have literally zero case because I act like this every game. The fact you're overlooking that and the more you double down speaks volumes to me.

[OrangeP47]

Just now, ChopBam said:

My point is that you have literally zero case because I act like this every game. The fact you're overlooking that and the more you double down speaks volumes to me.

So your defense is that you're just bad 

[ChopBam]

Just now, OrangeP47 said:

So your defense is that you're just bad 

Um, sure I guess? More importantly though I feel like we have a bad orange.

##vote OrangeP47

[OrangeP47]

Just now, ChopBam said:

Um, sure I guess? More importantly though I feel like we have a bad orange.

##vote OrangeP47

You didn't respond to my big post, you quoted a separate post, so I think you're confuse.

My argument is PoE and that you're worse than the other possible suspects, so really, you just being bad is indeed the crux of my argument.  Is it a sure-fire argument, no, but it's all we have.

[Category5]

So ChopBam, why the focus on Orange?

[ChopBam]

3 minutes ago, OrangeP47 said:

so I think you're confuse.

No u, I quoted a separate post that you were apparently overlooking, hoping that you would get it, but you didn't. And you continue to double down on this insanity.

4 minutes ago, OrangeP47 said:

you just being bad

Lol what are we, 12?

4 minutes ago, OrangeP47 said:

but it's all we have.

Hey didn't you say the same thing about FRAYDO?

[Coolrock]

[ChopBam]

1 minute ago, Category 5 Hurricane said:

So ChopBam, why the focus on Orange?

Unlike you, I know my alignment so I have a bit of extra perspective on Orange's angle. Combine that with the rest of this thread and you have.... meeeeee!!

Besides, I still regret that one time I went down without a fight due to inactivity. Maybe I should just go play APB though? FRAYDO fought hard and let's see where that got him.

[Category5]

1 minute ago, Coolrock said:

From left to right, Cat5, Coolrock, Killing_You

[OrangeP47]

1 minute ago, ChopBam said:

No u, I quoted a separate post that you were apparently overlooking, hoping that you would get it, but you didn't. And you continue to double down on this insanity.

Lol what are we, 12?

Hey didn't you say the same thing about FRAYDO?

I mean, I looked at every post between when I voted you and now, and you hadn't done the thing I asked you to do first, so my original point stands, but I've restated the case now anyway.  To perhaps put it more elegantly, and in terms I jabbed at you earlier, it's a "tone read" which you appear to be a fan of.

That said, logic can sometimes lead us down wrong paths, but that doesn't mean it's not THE path that is obvious.

[ChopBam]

Just now, OrangeP47 said:

I mean, I looked at every post between when I voted you and now, and you hadn't done the thing I asked you to do first, so my original point stands, but I've restated the case now anyway.  To perhaps put it more elegantly, and in terms I jabbed at you earlier, it's a "tone read" which you appear to be a fan of.

That said, logic can sometimes lead us down wrong paths, but that doesn't mean it's not THE path that is obvious.

From a Scum Orange perspective, you certainly choose convenient times to go with logic versus going with your gut.

[Coolrock]

4 minutes ago, Category 5 Hurricane said:

From left to right, Cat5, Coolrock, Killing_You

Pretty much this. 

[OrangeP47]

1 minute ago, ChopBam said:

From a Scum Orange perspective, you certainly choose convenient times to go with logic versus going with your gut.

There's a hierarchy of what tools you use.  Tone reads are very far down the list of what to use, but you can use them when nearly every other tool has been exhausted.

[Category5]

5 minutes ago, ChopBam said:

Unlike you, I know my alignment so I have a bit of extra perspective on Orange's angle. Combine that with the rest of this thread and you have.... meeeeee!!

Besides, I still regret that one time I went down without a fight due to inactivity. Maybe I should just go play APB though? FRAYDO fought hard and let's see where that got him.

Sure, but you've got a lot of people voting for you. Just wondering why you've selected Orange out of that pile when I figure your argument could be applied to others.

[OrangeP47]

Just now, OrangeP47 said:

There's a hierarchy of what tools you use.  Tone reads are very far down the list of what to use, but you can use them when nearly every other tool has been exhausted.

Also it should be noted that more weight is given to the fact that KY and Cat 5 are good than you are bad, but things do combine.  The other scum is probably in Anon/Mojo, but I want to resolve that later.  Though I guess that also means if there's TP it's in this first triangle.

[ChopBam]

1 minute ago, Category 5 Hurricane said:

Sure, but you've got a lot of people voting for you. Just wondering why you've selected Orange out of that pile when I figure your argument could be applied to others.

I stated earlier on that my three reads were you, Orange, and Mojo. If you're a baddie, you know I'm a goodie, so switching your vote to Orange was genius because it got me to take my sus off of you.

[OrangeP47]

Just now, ChopBam said:

I stated earlier on that my three reads were you, Orange, and Mojo. If you're a baddie, you know I'm a goodie, so switching your vote to Orange was genius because it got me to take my sus off of you.