Jeod

@Category 5 Hurricane, do you have any rebuttal for my hypotheses?

Ooh good one! He does talk too much and is usually somewhat off the mark in his assumptions.

Indeed it is. I think it’s time for Cat5 to enter the courtroom.

That’s not for another hour.

Wow a lot of thread viewers at the moment. Did I strike a nerve?

Most basic mafia setup is a doc, cop, two scum, and rest vanilla. I think the twist was the dayshot. If orange flips scum, I’d bet my life that cat5 is the partner. Check him or me.

It's my M.O. I think the most simple and easily-found scenario first, and then backtrack and consider the alternatives. Then I weigh the probability of each. Also, this is a basic roles game with a "twist". I currently think the twist is that Orange has a one-time daykill. I doubt there are other tricks. The stakes are too high now, and there's not enough time for us to react after only two nightkills and a daykill if there are more surprises.

Jeod - Pretty not-scum on account of the fake doc softclaim and the giving up voting rights thing. Why would I do that if I knew Orange could make it mylo today? TheIrishman - Doctor claim but no way to tell if he's being truthful. Category 5 Hurricane - Offered "surface" analysis of votes but no opinion, which makes it difficult to mark him as Mafia. In addition, he and OrangeP47 marked me as "not-scum" at around the same time. If he were asked whether to kill me or ChopBam for a guess at a PR, I think he would have chosen ChopBam because he'd believe I would be more discreet with my doc softing. He's also been skimming the thread but has yet to respond to anything. OrangeP47 - Most likely to be scum since he randomshot Mojoman and has a guilty report on him. Shade939 - Another bad-tempered useful idiot or scum. But, since Cat5 marked you as unlikely to be a partner with OrangeP47, then I'd think they would have killed you off earlier to eliminate their reads. Otherwise, they look suspect when it boils down to you vs. another player like right now. Sunflower - Difficult to verify cop claim due to mylo circumstances. I'm 100% for a no-lynch for more info.

...on mylo.

You sound like desperate Town that needs this lynch.

It determines if sunflower is lying and allows Irish to prove his doc claim. If sunflower lives then she has another report we can use to decide if she’s being truthful. If she dies we can suspect Irish, because there’s nobody else for the doc to be on.

Because the Godfather is a notorious Mafia role.

Go ahead and cop me then. Town doesn’t have any sort of Godfather role so don’t try it.

So unless we had a scumslip by Shade and orange, we’re at two scum and not three. Shall we test the doc claim by nolynching? If sunflower lives and is cop, we get another report.

And I could easily have kept the doc claim Irish.

Actually it’s MYLO. We have 4 town and 2 scum left.

If he flips Mafia then it's GG.

You know, I considered doing a massive re-read to see if a Sunflower-Category 5 team could be a plausible thing, but I'm not seeing much effort on anyone else's part to figure things out. So I'm not doing it.

No I didn’t think he’d ask to be shot and put us in lylo as a vanilla mafia. That should be gamethrowing tier stuff.

I half expected mojoman to be a bulletproof. Anyway, the cat5 and sunflower thought has me going “wait a minute”, so I’ll see if there are any clues to it when I get off work. I will say that sunflower is performing surprisingly well compared to her previous games, so what if cat5 has been giving pointers? (No offense intended if it’s all you)

What if sunflower is scum with cat5?

It wasn’t lylo earlier so I didn’t care as much

If Irish is scum I’m adding a minimum day post count rule to my future games.