Category 5 Hurricane

I can't self target. I also can't use it every night.

Yes.

So, this is interesting. You claimed that I had a Sandslash and that you investigated me N3. If your ability works like you say, this cannot be true. You would have seen a level 20 Sandshrew.

Well, I don't know what level he's at, but I do have a type advantage over him.

I'm here all day.

I'll be here for hammer today, so you won't have to worry about that from me. Like Jeod I can design an autobattle after I see who has what and who is with who.

Who all has KYs item again?

I guess whether or not I'd prefer Jeod or Brigitte on my side would pretty much depend on what Brigitte is bringing. I pretty much know what Jeod is bringing, so for the moment I'd prefer him.

Speaking of that, after Investigation 5, your intitial declaration was that you would take on KY. Then after the day started, you flipped and asked to be teamed with him. What changed overnight?

Jeod's reaction to losing Investigation 1: I didn't know what you were going on about back then. Sure, Shade was right that you were probably going to lose, but I thought you knew that going in. Finding out what we would be facing was still a good move, but then why freak out about it? As I said later, Shade was suspicious not because he thought you would lose, but because he thought it was a good idea to delay. Brigitte's reaction to losing Investigation 1: <crickets> Jeod's reaction to TheIrishman winning the battle: Brigitte's reaction to TheIrishman winning the battle: <crickets> Jeod's reaction to Retaliation losing Investigation 3: So, you know that part you're saying now about how you and Retal discussed the situation like adults and stuff? If you thought things out so well, why did you get mad when he lost? Meanwhile... Brigitte's reaction to Retaliation losing Investigation 3: Trolls. Trolls everywhere. Jeod's reaction to Sunny_You winning Investigation 4: Don't like that it didn't do max damage to KY, huh? Brigitte's reaction to Sunny_You winning Investigation 4: Isn't that interesting. No hint of concern that a Pokemon that she holds has just been reported as linked to Mafia. Actually seems to think this is good news? Brigitte's reaction to Fly missing during Investigation 5: So in review, silence when Jeod loses, silence when TheIrishman wins, trolls Retal losing, "lol"s at Fly missing

No, I'm upset that it FAILED. Speaking of that, you just reminded me of something I forgot to talk about!

Are you claiming to know how the reveals are triggered? Because if perhaps you do know that, it might explain why the investigation was contested yesterday.

Location could have been changed at any time. You had at least three people there at hammer.

I'm ok with the current setup as well, actually.

You compared your win chances and found them similar, yes, but Sunflower already expressed that she had a type advantage. You were a backup plan that was acceptable, but Retal should not have been fighting in R34.

Don't get me wrong, when I go back and read the first 3 days or so, my reads flip back to Shade. The way you two were playing back then is what I would expect Town players to do. That's always been my weakness in that when scum can match my line of thinking, I don't find them suspicious. It's only because of the words and actions of the last couple phases that have gotten me to flip my perspective. But the problem I have with Shade is I can't think of a person who would be teamed with him. And the reality of the situation now is that unless you think Retaliation is faking the revive claim to save Shade, there really isn't an angle to pursue here anymore. And yet, you have continued to do so.

You and Brigitte tried very hard to get someone other than KY to do the investigation yesterday. Kinda felt like a classic contested vote where Mafia needed to flip the result.

Yeah, you shot first, Solo. At the time he says this, I've already claimed to have visited him, and Jeod's trying to figure out if the same thing happened to Retaliation. To ask aloud about training should in all likelyhood paint a target on me. Retaliation was going through a ton of effort to avoid saying what it was, but Jeod cracked it open. I don't fully know how these things work yet since I haven't had the fortune of getting one, but I agree with Retal that this should have been kept quiet. Despite Jeod already pretty much trying "training" to me, I continue to try to keep it vague. HEY CAT5 IS THE ONE WHO GIVES TRAINING BONUSES OKAY! EVERYONE GET THAT? Alright, well, Jeod revealed that I do training, but it isn't confirmed how I help exactly, so I'll offer another vague tidbit that should confirm to Jeod that I know exactly how I helped him. CAT5'S ABILITY BOOSTS YOUR TRAINING BY AN EXTRA 10 LEVELS! Right. Of course you didn't. HEY GUYS THE EGGS ARE LEGENDARIES! HEY GUYS I CAN'T BE TARGETED BY NEGATIVE ACTIONS. YOU KNOW. LIKE THE ONES THAT HAVE TOTALLY BEEN CAUSING HAVOC ALL GAME. Please don't think too much into that. Seriously? END GAME. IT'S END GAME NOW YOU HEAR ME?! Only three pokemon have been fainted and two locations cleared. Nobody is even in danger of being taken out of the game during this phase. I would think the only reason why you could call it end game now is if you think scum is cornered. Which I could see why you might feel that way right now. BONUS ROUNDS Notice here that Brigitte has tossed aside the possibility that the investigation report could be insane and that we could BOTH be town. SPOILER ALERT He wasn't loud about it. Infact, he helped make it happen. Granted, I know that Retal's loss chance wasn't very high, but since it was previously discussed that Retal would not go to R34, why did it happen?

Going back to the "list checking", there is an interesting behavior I want to point out. TheIrishman proposed we all post our rosters, specifically mentioning that we don't reveal which ones we have evolved and therefore which ones we are training. Brigitte's response to this was to say that she could confirm one pokemon from the list of some people because her ability tells her the strongest pokemon that trainer has. That on the surface sounds pretty good. She can test players and confirm her role at the same time. The problem is that she needlessly reveals more information than is needed to prove her role. I put out my roster because I already revealed one of them and I also could potentially lay a trap for her to fall into if she guessed wrong. She then "confirmed" that I was not lying but did not say which pokemon. I asked her to confirm which pokemon she saw to make sure she wasn't bluffing her role. Her first response was to ask if it was ok to reveal that, but then did so anyway without waiting for a confirmation. When she did so, she revealed that I have a Sandslash and that she did the check N3. She could have just confirmed Sandshrew and not said anything else, to reveal the minimum information required. She then pesters Retaliation into posting his roster and confirms a pokemon without getting an ok first. Jeod then pops up and asks if he was checked, and all she does is confirm that she did. She declines to say when, or even which one it was. So, Brigitte's targets were: N1 Jeod? N2 Jeod?Retaliation? N3 Category5 N4 Retaliation? Oh, that's interesting, there should be at least one more person that she has targeted, but she didn't make a fourth confirmation. And then, of course, she was the last person to post her own team. Now, that leads to my next section, because there is a bit of a theme where my scum suspects have both revealed more information than they had too when people were clearly trying to keep some info quiet.

Now, I'd like to return to the discussion I started about 10 pages ago. It's time I explained why I asked about Brigitte's prior experience. We all know it's her first game here, but it appeared to me that she clearly had prior experience in this game type. First post in this thread pretty much gives it away. We don't do "In" here to indicate signups to a game. However, this behavior is very common at Mafia Universe, almost universally so, (pun intended) and I imagine other forum game sites may also do this. Just off this one post we have a hint that Brigitte has experience in forum games. We can look at later quotes to see if that experience is in mafia. Would these kind of things be said by someone new to mafia, especially a custom mafia like this one? These are words of a person who is very familiar of mafia terminology and tactics, sometimes including some terms that aren't commonly used on this site. She asks about ending days early, extra objectives, knows how to do analysis on other players, understood that we were effectively still in a D1 gamestate for the first several phases of the game, and "sheep" is a term that we almost never use around here. I actually have to admit I don't fully understand how that term is used yet. "But why is this important?", I hear you asking. Most players will tell us whether or not they have experience early on in their introduction to the group, but Brigitte declined to do much of an introduction at all, perhaps on purpose. The reason why Brigitte's words have caught my interest is that while she's clearly not new to this game type, I feel like some of the posts she makes are an attempt to cash in on the perception that she is new. Posts like these: Several times she asks about basic mafia concepts as if she needs us to tell her how the game is played, while it's already clear she is quite familiar with how mafia works. Those last couple in particular really flagged for me and is why I eventually bit and asked if she had prior experience. This is when she was "checking for liars" using her ability to get us all to reveal our rosters. I'm sure she new quite well what she was doing. She didn't need to quote me for validation. She was trying to use that situation to prove her ability and earn herself townie points, and leaned on my positive read on my opinion for extra townie points. So, long story short, I've actually been rather suspicious of Brigitte for a good portion of the game as I've seen what appears to be two faces from the same player, the experienced one and the inexperienced one. Then, as Retaliation has already pointed out for me, I think that when she answered "Like i said, it's been a while", she has absolutely said that to someone in this game, which I why I went through the effort to check every post she made to make sure she didn't say it to us. If it were just OrangeP47 after signing up, I think she would have mentioned that. She said that to her teammate earlier in the game, probably after that teammate probably asked that same question after she said things that revealed she did likely have experience. But wait, there is more!

No.

N1 Trained Bought Item Helped Jeod Train N2 Trained Bought Item Bought TM N3 Trained Bought TM Used TM from N2 N4 Trained Used TM from N3 Helped Retaliation Train N5 Trained Bought TM Bought Held Item

I confirmed that I have a Scyther long before I revealed all but one of the rest of my team.

Curse you, Mr. Pokemon! I was setting up my case for Jeod/Brigitte scum team and was going to crash the party tomorrow, but now you've gone and stole my thunder!

Because process of elimination suggests to me he has to be town, and he should have a Level 50 to fight with, ensuring best win chance.