Killing_You

I came out mostly unscathed, although in the scene where I get knocked into the bathtub, I botched the stunt fall and what you see is me actually falling in. I was perfectly fine, though.

Hey everyone! As many of you know, I'm aspiring to be an actor. Well, I have finally made my live-action acting debut in this short film, Just Libby. It was filmed and edited for the 2017 Missouri Western State University 48-hour film festival, where teams of filmmakers have 48 hours to write, film, edit, and present a short film with three requirements: A character (Jaque the Anthropologist), a prop (umbrella), and a line ("Take one for the team"). This film won Best Use of Prop and Best Use of Character. So, sit back and enjoy this film about a masked vigilante on a budget protecting pacifist Indiana Jones from a gang of kilt wearing, Swedish fish chewing, Simpsons watching bad guys. It's a pretty fun time! Oh, and if you're wondering which one is me, I'm the one with a leather jacket and sunglasses.

Oh for flux's sake people, I was work. Day end would not have mattered to me. Oh well, we've got this in the bag.

Alright, I won't be back until the night phase, early hammer or no, but I'm leaving myself unvoted just to avoid taking chances.

Oh, I forgot. I'd like to double check with Irish just in case, however.

WAS THAT HAMMER?! ##unvote Agreed. I think he's trying to come up with whatever scenario he can to throw us off his trail so that he can complete his third-party objective, as outlined in my wall-of-text. I second the notion that he is to be ignored.

Okay, fair enough. Problem is, what we're dealing with doesn't seem like the typical bus driver. How else do you explain the three targets and somewhat random targets? Just look at N1: Intended Targets: -OP47 -OP47 -ChopBam Actual Targets: -Cat5 -Kam -FRAYDO

Okay, fair enough. In that case, let's hit Orange today, Alstar tomorrow, and if the game is still going, you next. ##vote OrangeP47 I think he'd be made aware of that, as the rest of us have. (Choppy was told he was switched to kam, Orange was told he was switched to FRAYDO etc...)

As in if the bus driver gets reflected, or I get driven by the bus? If the former, likely just hits a different target. To be honest, I'm not 100% sure. If the latter, the sigil gets cast on someone else, as seen on N2.

By the way, I don't want anyone to pass over my: Despite this little kerfuffle, my points here still stand. I don't want anyone distracted from it.

Did you misread me? I said if I had reflected actions. As in, had my ability been the cause of N1 shenanigans. I targeted Nodlied N1, and tried to target Jeod (but got redirected to Alstar) N2. N1 was either reflection or fail, N2 was clearly a fail. I just want to add that my original intention was to reflect nightkills with a chance of failure. Everything else was added by Irish for balancing.

Ha, it's fine. I should be more careful with my references in case people don't get them and take them the wrong way.

Ahh. Well, the movie may not be horror, but a lot of comics featuring Dormammu certainly are. Funny thing is, I had to argue with Irish a bit, but he allowed it once I showed him that Dormammu is listed as a Horror character for Marvel comics: http://marvel.com/universe/Category:Horror#axzz4xRRoXGij

I'm referencing the movie. How did you miss that? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yKAfwBPvsMA

Alright, I'll play along. What do you think I've been doing? How does it explain the RNG both at night and during the day? What the fu- where did this come from?

Basically, had I targeted Orange N1, and the reflection was successful, only one of either Choppy or FRAYDO would've been affected, and they would've tracked/investigated themselves.

*sigh* I really don't know what's so hard to understand. "Reflection" means that it goes back at the caster. None of that happened N1, and the only possible case N2 may have been a lie anyway.

No, I'm not. It only has a chance to reflect the first ability. This RNG stuff has nothing to do with me.

Alright, role claim time? Sure, what the heck. I’m Dormammu. My day actions are incinerate and banish. Incinerate is self explanatory (as demonstrated earlier), and banish sends someone to the Dark Dimension for the rest of the day phase, roleblocking them and protecting them at the same time. My night action is a bit more complicated. It’s primary purpose is to construct a sigil of dark energy that gives the target a 50% chance to reflect the first action taken on someone back at the action taker. However, there's a 25% chance for it to fail. There’s also a 25% chance for it to backfire entirely, where whatever action my target took will be reflected back upon them. For example, if I cast Illusion on a cop, and this effect kicked in, they would investigate themselves. And the kicker? I have to wait until the next day to figure out what kicked in. So, I guess, I have to ask one question... Mafia, have you come to bargain?

Ninja'd me, sort of. Standby for response.

After a reread, something has stuck out that's really bothered me: FRAYDO's result on Cat5. We know FRAYDO was a town cop, and we know he returned a Third Party result on Cat5, when he claimed Neutral. This gives us two scenarios to work with: Either Cat5 is Neutral and FRAYDO was wrong, or Cat5 is TP and FRAYDO was right. Before we move on, I want to keep two posts in mind, as they've provided a framework of sorts for this game. Ready? Here we go. Scenario 1: Cat5 is Neutral Cat5 has already given us plenty of what we need to make this work. Basically, he claims that Night 1, he was attacked by someone who was; 1. Undetectable, 2. Able to mess with cop results, and, 3. Able to nightkill at the same time. Ignoring this being a rather absurd role, why would someone skew with the investigation results of someone they were going to off anyway? Sure, this could have been the result of our randomizer, but that would break the pattern that we've seen thus far. (The pattern being three instances of targets being RNG'd). If this was the case, we would very likely be playing a troll game with little to no rules and a stupidly powerful scum. However, there is an alternate scenario. Scenario 2: Cat5 is Third Party Before I go on, I want you to look at the above scenario again. Read how much evidence, and how extravagant it would need to be in order to work. Now, back to this scenario. Do you want to know what it would take for this to work? Cat5 being a liar. Everything falls into place. FRAYDO's report. The amount of RNG hits. The odd nightkill attempts. Allow me to go into detail here. Let's say Cat5 truly is Third Party. Why would he hide his identity? Obviously to keep himself alive to attain his goals. His whole disappearing act D2 and N2? I have a feeling he activated an ability that causes three people per night to have randomized targets, with the caveat of him being forcibly absent for the following day and night post-activation. And perhaps it also applies this effect during the day (not counting voting or lynching) , but the first ability successfully activated during the day is immune to this effect. Think about it: We didn't see this effect during the day until D3. D2, though, only had 1 ability successfully activate: Orange's roleblock. Sure, Jeod had activated his Raise Dead ability, but it failed. Perhaps this means it was exempt from the ability due to daytime naturally being very different as opposed to night time. It also explains why Alstar's ability went off perfectly fine, but then every ability used afterward (again, a total of three) went awry and hit random targets. Even if that's not how it works or if Cat5's ability N1 isn't tied to these RNG shenanigans, him activating his ability on himself also solves another discrepancy: The nightkills. He suggested that the Mafia had multiple nightkills available to him, as an attempt to explain what happened N1. However, due to the lack of evidence for a second attempt N2, he ran into a problem, and was forced to suggest that the second NK was roleblocked. But what if he wasn't hit with an NK attempt N1? Let's look at this chart again, using only confirmed NKs and eliminating the attempt on him. Pretty straightforward, eh? I believe this is the most likely scenario. Cat5's been tossing around a bunch of theories and disinformation to throw us off the trail. But the question remains: How does Alstar fit into this? Let's say he has a second night ability, and he's telling the truth here. What would be the most possible scenario for Alstar here? Well, let's say my ability didn't go haywire, but Alstar wasn't affected by the randomizer. He's already claimed a passive that let's him see who visited him at night. It's possible that he did watch Cat5 N1 while Orange went for the kill (and failed, as we saw), but with Orange gone, went for Choppy last night and claimed to have watched himself by accident? He would have all the information he needed to make a false claim and save his own arse. Unfortunately for him, FRAYDO managed to discover his true colors before being run down accidentally. Thus the players are as such: Alstar ChopBam FRAYDO Jeod Killing You Voe Kamuixmod Nodlied OrangeP47 Category 5 Hurricane I'm keeping my vote where it is for now. But if we feel more inclined to hit Orange today, I won't argue.

Aren't insane cops usually given a sane cop in the same game to balance them out?

Oh, I misread your post. My bad. In that case, it should be threes.

I'm not sure I understand what you mean.

Let's see here for a sec. Assuming the scenario is that the randomizer has acted consistently each time, of course. N1 Randomizer Hits: -ChopBam -FRAYDO -OrangeP47 N2 Randomizer Hits: -FRAYDO -Alstar -Killing You D3 Randomizer Hits: -Voe -Jeod -Killing You Seems to me that it happens in threes. There is one other possibility, though, and it's assuming my ability went haywire N2. That would indicate: N1 Randomizer Hits: -ChopBam -FRAYDO -OrangeP47 N2 Randomizer Hits: -FRAYDO -Killing You D3 Randomizer Hits: -Voe -Jeod -Killing You Keep in mind, my post-randomizer hit happened after OrangeP47 was resurrected. This, taken into account that Cat5 calculated 3 Mafia, would indicate that the randomization is tied to the number of Mafia still alive. Based on my calculations, you should be safe to do so. The only thing that I'm worried about is there being no pattern, but I sincerely doubt it.