ChopBam

Yeah I don't have more on him other than that Nodlied trusted him a lot. What we know from lore on his character is that he's anti-Kira. I don't know how this relates to the way his agenda will work with or fight against ours, so I kept my reading brief. Sounds fine to me. Holding onto the notebook isn't an option, as it'll be taken from me and sent to who knows where. Here are a couple options I'm potentially okay with. 1) Passing the note to somebody 95% trustworthy. 2) Opening the note and reporting my findings. Be aware that this could be extremely risky and there are trustworthy players here who are staunchly against the motion. 3) Being investigated (sigh). It'll just be redundant. I'll pass off all my proposal points before day end. It'll expose me, but prove me once-and-for-all as trustworthy. One of the risks to the team here is that we will miss a chance to catch somebody more suspect.

That's why I said earlier in this thread after OrangeP47 said the same thing that it wasn't the plan to do that. I don't actually have a set-in-stone plan right now. Maybe the death note has a chance of being stolen if it's confiscated. If we keep passing it around, however, eventually it could fall into the wrong hands, which is why we need an endgame. Something that will ensure it (they, since there are multiple) goes (go) away and the rest of us can win. We could try passing around this notebook and wait to see if anything happens to CK's notebook in the meantime, but you're right in that passing it around is definitely not a long term solution. Does anybody have any clues at all as to what would happen if somebody who's not Kira was to open the notebook? All I was told is that I'll have another set of actions available should I choose to open it. There have been hints in this thread that corruption may happen if the notebook is opened, and various heinous things may occur if the pages of doom are stirred, which is why I haven't honestly considered that action as viable. Looking at our players, though, this is only through the lens of what I know, so please just take it with a grain of salt. The players I label as Suspect are only through process of elimination in my mind, and not the way they're playing (minus a little bit of Fraydo). I just haven't interacted with the suspects on this list enough to rule them out. Killing You - Suspect. While he supports me, I just don't know anything about him and his role. I'd hate to push anything on him, because of his support of me and he reads as a townie, but this could be exactly what he wants. Jeod - Shiniwhatsi. Pegged, admitted, and all but confirmed. Voe - Suspect. Again, reads as a goodie to me, but I just haven't interacted with him enough to show one way or the other. ChopBam - Goodie. Mojoman and I know this for 100%. As I mentioned earlier, either he and I are goodies, or we're in cahoots. If we're in cahoots, why are we publicly passing a death note to each other? Chaos Knight - Confirmed anti-Kira. Fraydo - Suspect. Acted pretty shady most of the game. Only came out later when under fire. Mojoman - Goodie. Basically confirmed to me (as is his character name), but not to the rest of the players. Nodlied - 98% sure he’s a goodie. Everything points to Nodlied as a non suspect. From my conversation with him to the way he is writing, I have insight as to who his character is. Category 5 - Confirmed baddie. OrangeP47 - Suspect. Again, I don't want to point fingers. It's just process of elimination and the way business goes. This all said, there have to be other Big Picture things we're missing, and I just don't have those pieces.

Considering the extended day, I'll also ##unvote FRAYDO As he doesn't read as a baddie to me. Which means nobody really reads as a baddie to me. Voe, are you sure that confiscating the note from a non Kira means it won't fall into the wrong hands? What is the endgame here? Surely there is more to uncover.

Haven't you been reading this thread?

Glad to hear Dank Souls is fun.

Yes. Exactly as CK described.

OrangeP47, in your opinion what should I do with the note?

Also, Kira can't exactly throw us under the bus or manipulate us without a name and a face. The only exception is Shinigami Eyes. How does Kira #2 get that? And haven't we already apprehended Kira #2 in Cat5?

I considered this. I'm still not sure exactly whom I'm handing the note to tonight, but I am not opening it. Do consider that Mojo all but said yesterday in this thread that he was going to give the note to me, and nothing intercepted it. Correct me if I'm wrong, but this seems to contradict what you said about a predictable plan. If I give out my plans here, aren't they predictable?

Also it's impossible for me to have fooled Mojoman, since he used an item that I responded to earlier. It was my entire game the second day to try to get a meeting with him (and I didn't know at the time it was Mojoman I needed to meet with). You must have missed this. Either Mojoman and I are co-conspirators, or we're good guys.

Also my other question still remains: what happens to the notebook if it's found on a person who has not used it? Is it removed from the game entirely, given to somebody known, or given to somebody unknown?

Anyway, while the guy is infuriating, I still kinda trust Voe. He and OrangeP47 were two of my four remaining suspects, so I'll rule them out for now. Which leaves KY and Fraydo. I guess one thing tipping me towards Fraydo is what I brought up yesterday: his near invisibility. Another thing pushing me toward him is that he is suddenly voting for an investigation on me right after it's suggested by someone else. ##vote FRAYDO

I was actually wondering how mad he would be if Cat5 got shot.

If you're investigated, do you get your items back when released? Do we actually know what happens to the notebook if it hasn't been used?

This will also make previous days' trust/suspicion levels a lot less important. So I guess it's also possible Kira is merely examining the notebook and hasn't killed anyone yet for that reason. What might be more scary is that he could be manipulating someone.

Also is it just me or did our proposal points jump by a lot last night?

I did not. Still not sure if the Kira gets both a name and a face when somebody is investigated. Nobody's been killed yet, and M was investigated yesterday. Kira has the notebook, so does that mean Kira just acquired it?

I think investigating me would make those meetings and the item usage to prove my trust a waste, not to mention that I believe I'm an important player to the cause. If I die before L does, I lose, and I haven't used any of my items yet. I announced that I have the note, hoping that full disclosure would not bring about an investigation. I plan not to examine it, but to pass it on again.

Good catch, I didn't notice that from reading the first time. What happened to CK's notebook? If it was not passed to somebody new, and it's still under confiscation, then there are at least three notebooks. I terminated my meeting with Nodlied last night and am meeting with Mojoman now. He passed me his notebook last night.

And you have a penchant for chiming in when it's too late. *Sees that Jeod proposed something after hammer.*

Also, ##vote Chaos_Knight Agree with the rest.

Always a worthy cause.

I'm not against the CK investigation, but I wanted to get some thoughts rolling before the evening sets in.

##vote Fraydo I'd say his inactivity is making his role, whatever that is, completely useless and unknown to us. If he is the killer, an investigation will be perfect. If not, I can't see a whole lot that we're actually going to lose here, unlike the airfield in that other game.