ChopBam

Possibly another hour. The CVC seemed to indicate this, but I could be wrong.

I trust Nodlied. KY I'm not so sure about. Nodlied trusts KY. Voe and Jeod are chaotic forces. I trust Voe, but not Jeod. Voe wants to meet with Jeod. Nodlied trusts none of them. Cat5 is acting against his nature; CK, Mojo and Fraydo are hiding somewhere; and Orange is working with me. Most of them are fine with opening a note, but Nodlied is not. What do I do with this?

More commands do appear if you access the notebook. I was told this when I had one.

Nodlied, why specifically do you not want Voe to open the notebook tonight? You have the other one and can control where it goes. Do you have any suspicion of KY as Shinigami? Which other character's objective would be to be holding a death note at game end?

I'm curious about this KY-is-a-shinigami theory. If we investigate you tonight, KY, will you show up as not showing up?

##propose trust Nodlied 500 I trust this guy and I think he should still be able to meet with people.

KY can you tell us more about yourself? What is your objective, more or less? What direction do things need to go for you to win? Are you part of the task force? Would you lose much if we voted for you?

Well then, we've all heard from your own lips that we don't need to listen to you. Next?

This reasoning is bad. I'd like to see an updated CVC, seeing as the trust points have changed massively since the last one, and I want to see where everyone stands currently.

I'm not fully against somebody opening the notebook and uncovering some of this mystery. Voe makes some valid points there. I'm not even fully against Voe doing this, as he is right that we can just investigate him tomorrow if he makes any kills. My main beef though with Voe right now is that he is completely volatile, and whatever is in that notebook could give him more power to be a chaotic force. Combine that with Jeod and their willingness to work together, and who knows what could happen. If we don't want to uncover more identities right now, we could pass the notebooks to people we already know and investigate them to confiscate the notebooks. Here's the big question: But what then?

I've been in contact with OrangeP47 today. Been musing more there than speaking here. If Sidoh has taken one back, could that have been the note that was confiscated?

Nope. I passed it to someone else.

Does OrangeP47 in fact have a special night action? I missed it. In any event, I've requested to meet with Orange, but it's fine if he says no. I also sent the command to pass on the note.

I used to regularly visit a number of C&C-related forums like CNCDEN, the Command and Conquer forums, and various modding communities like then-named-RenAlert. I also ran my own Christian forums at one point. All of these places died, and now here I am at W3DHub. I don't miss them much. In hindsight they were just huge timesinks.

CVC doesn't show Voe's new vote? Fraydo can you still win with the task force even if you die?

I know the day isn't just about to end, but I will make it clear now that I plan to pass the notebook to somebody trustworthy.

I'll make a public commitment before day end.

My read on OrangeP47:

Yeah I don't have more on him other than that Nodlied trusted him a lot. What we know from lore on his character is that he's anti-Kira. I don't know how this relates to the way his agenda will work with or fight against ours, so I kept my reading brief. Sounds fine to me. Holding onto the notebook isn't an option, as it'll be taken from me and sent to who knows where. Here are a couple options I'm potentially okay with. 1) Passing the note to somebody 95% trustworthy. 2) Opening the note and reporting my findings. Be aware that this could be extremely risky and there are trustworthy players here who are staunchly against the motion. 3) Being investigated (sigh). It'll just be redundant. I'll pass off all my proposal points before day end. It'll expose me, but prove me once-and-for-all as trustworthy. One of the risks to the team here is that we will miss a chance to catch somebody more suspect.

That's why I said earlier in this thread after OrangeP47 said the same thing that it wasn't the plan to do that. I don't actually have a set-in-stone plan right now. Maybe the death note has a chance of being stolen if it's confiscated. If we keep passing it around, however, eventually it could fall into the wrong hands, which is why we need an endgame. Something that will ensure it (they, since there are multiple) goes (go) away and the rest of us can win. We could try passing around this notebook and wait to see if anything happens to CK's notebook in the meantime, but you're right in that passing it around is definitely not a long term solution. Does anybody have any clues at all as to what would happen if somebody who's not Kira was to open the notebook? All I was told is that I'll have another set of actions available should I choose to open it. There have been hints in this thread that corruption may happen if the notebook is opened, and various heinous things may occur if the pages of doom are stirred, which is why I haven't honestly considered that action as viable. Looking at our players, though, this is only through the lens of what I know, so please just take it with a grain of salt. The players I label as Suspect are only through process of elimination in my mind, and not the way they're playing (minus a little bit of Fraydo). I just haven't interacted with the suspects on this list enough to rule them out. Killing You - Suspect. While he supports me, I just don't know anything about him and his role. I'd hate to push anything on him, because of his support of me and he reads as a townie, but this could be exactly what he wants. Jeod - Shiniwhatsi. Pegged, admitted, and all but confirmed. Voe - Suspect. Again, reads as a goodie to me, but I just haven't interacted with him enough to show one way or the other. ChopBam - Goodie. Mojoman and I know this for 100%. As I mentioned earlier, either he and I are goodies, or we're in cahoots. If we're in cahoots, why are we publicly passing a death note to each other? Chaos Knight - Confirmed anti-Kira. Fraydo - Suspect. Acted pretty shady most of the game. Only came out later when under fire. Mojoman - Goodie. Basically confirmed to me (as is his character name), but not to the rest of the players. Nodlied - 98% sure he’s a goodie. Everything points to Nodlied as a non suspect. From my conversation with him to the way he is writing, I have insight as to who his character is. Category 5 - Confirmed baddie. OrangeP47 - Suspect. Again, I don't want to point fingers. It's just process of elimination and the way business goes. This all said, there have to be other Big Picture things we're missing, and I just don't have those pieces.

Considering the extended day, I'll also ##unvote FRAYDO As he doesn't read as a baddie to me. Which means nobody really reads as a baddie to me. Voe, are you sure that confiscating the note from a non Kira means it won't fall into the wrong hands? What is the endgame here? Surely there is more to uncover.

Haven't you been reading this thread?

Glad to hear Dank Souls is fun.

Yes. Exactly as CK described.

OrangeP47, in your opinion what should I do with the note?