Category 5 Hurricane Posted March 6, 2018 Report Share Posted March 6, 2018 Other than having an item handed to me, there wasn't anything of note that happened to me. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheIrishman Posted March 6, 2018 Report Share Posted March 6, 2018 As per usual, if anything is wrong, tell me. Players Character Alignment Role Items N1 Sunflower ? ? Roleblocker ? Roleblocked Retal Shade Frankenstein Third Party Build-a-bear ? Roleblocked OrangeP47 ? ? ? ? ? Nodlied ? ? ? ? ? Killing You ? ? ? ? ? Retaliation ? ? Hostile Counter? ? Roleblocked Category 5 ? ? Watcher ? Watch Shade Got Item TheIrishman ? Neutral Witch ? Possess Shade Target Retal Pass Item Got Item FRAYDO Johnny Bravo Town ? Mirror ChopBam ? ? ? ? Pie Shade 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killing_You Posted March 6, 2018 Report Share Posted March 6, 2018 Literally was just about to ask for a recap of the night actions. Thanks 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killing_You Posted March 6, 2018 Report Share Posted March 6, 2018 Alright, so, after rereading, I'm honestly inclined to believe Shade. That doesn't mean we should trust him, though, and if it can be helped he shouldn't be allowed to complete his objective. Cat5's line of thinking that the roleblock prevented a nightkill is definitely a route I want to look into. Since Irish confirmed Shade's story, that only leaves Retaliation. In the unlikely event that his theory of scum roleblocking and framing him is accurate, however, then that would mean Sunflower is scum. The only other scenarios I can think of are scum deciding not to nightkill and let town form their own conclusions (unlikely), scum being unable to nightkill last night (least likely), or scum hitting someone immune to NKs (somewhat likely). However, I'm still worried that he might have a jester-like passive. Anyone else feel this way, or is it just me? Also, Irish, I assume that you're claiming Bus Driver, essentially? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheIrishman Posted March 6, 2018 Report Share Posted March 6, 2018 Right, an ability cop version of it that doesn't let me control Scum NKs. I say Scum, but what it actually says is that it fails for killing actions, so I shouldn't be able to possess Shade after he builds his abomination either. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killing_You Posted March 6, 2018 Report Share Posted March 6, 2018 Just now, TheIrishman said: Right, an ability cop version of it that doesn't let me control Scum NKs. I say Scum, but what it actually says is that it fails for killing actions, so I shouldn't be able to possess Shade after he builds his abomination either. So if a roleblock is what prevented a nightkill, it wasn't you. In that case, ##vote Retaliation Still concerned about the possible passive, though. I could remedy that, but only if everyone else thinks it'd be a good idea. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retaliation Posted March 6, 2018 Report Share Posted March 6, 2018 You guys are making killing myself too easy. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shade939 Posted March 6, 2018 Report Share Posted March 6, 2018 Just now, Killing_You said: So if a roleblock is what prevented a nightkill, it wasn't you. In that case, ##vote Retaliation Still concerned about the possible passive, though. I could remedy that, but only if everyone else thinks it'd be a good idea. What about if I said it was a good idea? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killing_You Posted March 6, 2018 Report Share Posted March 6, 2018 Just now, Shade939 said: What about if I said it was a good idea? Depends on how much I trust you 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheIrishman Posted March 6, 2018 Report Share Posted March 6, 2018 Just now, Killing_You said: Still concerned about the possible passive, though. I could remedy that, but only if everyone else thinks it'd be a good idea. Possible passive? I don't think Retaliation or Shade mentioned a passive. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheIrishman Posted March 6, 2018 Report Share Posted March 6, 2018 Just now, TheIrishman said: Possible passive? I don't think Retaliation or Shade mentioned a passive. Oh wait, do you mean mine? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retaliation Posted March 6, 2018 Report Share Posted March 6, 2018 You guys need to stop doing this before I go to bed. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shade939 Posted March 6, 2018 Report Share Posted March 6, 2018 Just now, Killing_You said: Depends on how much I trust you In all seriousness, I like the idea of using a day kill to get around a jesters ability. But I think ChopBam could also be a jester, so I'm not certain about Retaliation also being one in this case. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killing_You Posted March 6, 2018 Report Share Posted March 6, 2018 Just now, TheIrishman said: Oh wait, do you mean mine? I meant Retal. Nobody mentioned it, but his apparent eagerness to be lynched earlier had me worried. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killing_You Posted March 6, 2018 Report Share Posted March 6, 2018 MAFIA EDIT: Just now, Shade939 said: In all seriousness, I like the idea of using a day kill to get around a jesters ability. But I think ChopBam could also be a jester, so I'm not certain about Retaliation also being one in this case. It's not a daykill, though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Category 5 Hurricane Posted March 6, 2018 Report Share Posted March 6, 2018 He's been suggesting for a while that he's worried about a passive being triggered on lynch that might be bad for us. And now that he appears to suggest he has a way to counter it, I'm suddenly finding that more plausible. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retaliation Posted March 6, 2018 Report Share Posted March 6, 2018 I do like being shot in the face. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Category 5 Hurricane Posted March 6, 2018 Report Share Posted March 6, 2018 Though, if I'm worried about a passive on any role, it's on ChopBam. Retal just sounds like he's in full "I give up" mode. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retaliation Posted March 6, 2018 Report Share Posted March 6, 2018 Just now, Category 5 Hurricane said: Though, if I'm worried about a passive on any role, it's on ChopBam. Retal just sounds like he's in full "I give up" mode. I'm running on pure spite right now. I'm mildly regretting roleclaiming, because it would have been great to deny you all the knowledge that the GM felt it was useful to know how many hostiles there were. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shade939 Posted March 6, 2018 Report Share Posted March 6, 2018 Just now, Category 5 Hurricane said: Though, if I'm worried about a passive on any role, it's on ChopBam. Retal just sounds like he's in full "I give up" mode. I think the guy who's using a day action on the first day is probably trying to draw attention to himself. But what guaranteed do you have that Killing_You's ability would work? I don't exactly want multiple town members dieing today to a scum trap. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Category 5 Hurricane Posted March 6, 2018 Report Share Posted March 6, 2018 I don't. I don't even know exactly what it is? Why are you asking me about questions regarding Killing_You's role? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shade939 Posted March 6, 2018 Report Share Posted March 6, 2018 Just now, Category 5 Hurricane said: I don't. I don't even know exactly what it is? Why are you asking me about questions regarding Killing_You's role? I'm not, just pointing out that if his ability didn't work then you'd have multiple town players voting up a jester, and like I said I need some time to actually completely my objective... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killing_You Posted March 6, 2018 Report Share Posted March 6, 2018 It's a roleblock that I can do during the day. I say that it can counter passives, but I've been running on the assumption that roleblocks also block passives. Please correct me if I'm wrong on that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retaliation Posted March 6, 2018 Report Share Posted March 6, 2018 Also it's really annoying getting lynched because you joke voted scum. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shade939 Posted March 6, 2018 Report Share Posted March 6, 2018 Also, I'm assuming that lynching a Jester would result in killing at least one of the players that voted for them correct? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Category 5 Hurricane Posted March 6, 2018 Report Share Posted March 6, 2018 I seriously doubt that a jester role exists. At least not one that would end the game. If anything, it might be one that allows ChopBam to "win" while the game continues. I'm more worried about other negative effects, like we lynch him and somebody else dies instead, or something negative for us happens like losing a day phase or something like that. (These are things I've actually experienced in a game, unlike a jester role) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shade939 Posted March 6, 2018 Report Share Posted March 6, 2018 Just now, Category 5 Hurricane said: I seriously doubt that a jester role exists. At least not one that would end the game. If anything, it might be one that allows ChopBam to "win" while the game continues. I'm more worried about other negative effects, like we lynch him and somebody else dies instead, or something negative for us happens like losing a day phase or something like that. (These are things I've actually experienced in a game, unlike a jester role) Game also ends when scum are equal to the number of town players in game. So assuming only two scum, they'd only need to kill three town players for a victory and game end. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheIrishman Posted March 6, 2018 Report Share Posted March 6, 2018 Just now, Killing_You said: It's a roleblock that I can do during the day. I say that it can counter passives, but I've been running on the assumption that roleblocks also block passives. Please correct me if I'm wrong on that. You are correct. Unless you had something like mine that specifically negates one action or they have something that can't be blocked, whenever a player is roleblocked, all their abilities are roleblocked. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheIrishman Posted March 6, 2018 Report Share Posted March 6, 2018 Just now, Shade939 said: Game also ends when scum are equal to the number of town players in game. So assuming only two scum, they'd only need to kill three town players for a victory and game end. No, that's a mistake I had when I first hosted a game. It's when Scum equal the remaining players. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retaliation Posted March 6, 2018 Report Share Posted March 6, 2018 We should do it, just to make this even more silly. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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