Games [GAME OVER] PokeMafia Generation I

[Jeod]

Player	Trainer Nomination	Rocket Nomination
OrangeP47	OrangeP47	Killing_You
Killing_You
Shade939	Category 5	Category 5
FRAYDO		Shade939
Sunflower	Sunflower	Shade939
TheIrishMan
Category 5 Hurricane	Sunflower	Killing_You

[OrangeP47]

Just now, Category 5 Hurricane said:

That's very interesting that Shade would somehow assume that KY and Orange are rivals.

To be fair, I assume there's another person with a rivalry out there and they're just not forthcoming, like last time we had this conversation.

[Category5]

Wait, Orange and KY fought already, didn't they?

[Shade939]

8 minutes ago, Category 5 Hurricane said:

So, what Shade's been talking about with vote manipulation, Shade and KY are in position to do. Shade and KY can vote up Shade to get him paired with Sunflower, They can also both vote me Rocket, and since Shade would be voted in Trainer, I'd be forced to fight alongside KY. Now, if "Rocket winning the battle phase activates NK" is a thing, then as long as either of KY or Shade survive the fight, they get to NK.

Also, doesn't KY actually have to be on for that to happen, and isn't the point that I made which you were completely ignoring yesterday?

[OrangeP47]

Just now, Category 5 Hurricane said:

Wait, Orange and KY fought already, didn't they?

Yeah I fought him Day 3.

[Category5]

Just now, OrangeP47 said:

To be fair, I assume there's another person with a rivalry out there and they're just not forthcoming, like last time we had this conversation.

I continue to see no reason to hide that information. 

[OrangeP47]

I will say unequivocally, I do not have a rival status with KY. That doesn't preclude KY from having rival status with me (apparently), but I don't think he did much manipulation either this time or last time to arrange the matchups.

[Category5]

Just now, Shade939 said:

Also, doesn't KY actually have to be on for that to happen, and isn't the point that I made which you were completely ignoring yesterday?

I am aware that you made the point. It's kinda in the quote.

You sure have all this thought out, don't you?

[Shade939]

Also, I like FRAYDO still hasnt' bothered to use his cop ability on me despite the fact he's repeated tried to vote me up now...

[OrangeP47]

Just now, Category 5 Hurricane said:

I continue to see no reason to hide that information. 

Rivalries would be conducted much more efficiently in secret, in my opinion.  I'll admit, this current situation would indeed be great for me throwing KY under the bus with rivalry, but that's not what's happening, so I can see why Shade would think that.

[Category5]

I don't think that's a case where he thought that. That sounded like more of a threat with prior knowledge. "Well, have it your way, but you're going to face your rival"

[OrangeP47]

Just now, Category 5 Hurricane said:

I don't think that's a case where he thought that. That sounded like more of a threat with prior knowledge. "Well, have it your way, but you're going to face your rival"

Well, like I said, he's not my rival. I guess maybe I could be KY's rival though.

[Shade939]

Just now, OrangeP47 said:

Well, like I said, he's not my rival. I guess maybe I could be KY's rival though.

To be fair, I'm mostly assuming since FRAYDO is an actual power role that he's exempt from the whole thing.

[OrangeP47]

Just now, Shade939 said:

To be fair, I'm mostly assuming since FRAYDO is an actual power role that he's exempt from the whole thing.

I guess Shade just says things with a certainty because that's the way he is.

[Category5]

I'm not going to ignore scummy behavior just because he also does it when he's town. Especially when the suspects have already been narrowed down like this.

[Shade939]

Just now, OrangeP47 said:

I guess Shade just says things with a certainty because that's the way he is.

Balance wise, as many people as possible should be effected by the rivalries otherwise it'll unfairly shift balance towards one side or another.

[Shade939]

Just now, Category 5 Hurricane said:

I'm not going to ignore scummy behavior just because he also does it when he's town. Especially when the suspects have already been narrowed down like this.

Yeah, like you have any other players you could push the narrative towards anyways...

[OrangeP47]

Just now, Category 5 Hurricane said:

I'm not going to ignore scummy behavior just because he also does it when he's town. Especially when the suspects have already been narrowed down like this.

I'm not saying Shade's not acting scummy right now, just that this particular point is incidental to the whole affair.

[Category5]

Well, I mean, if I wanted to, I could, for example, spend the entire day questioning the reliability of cop reports and trying to prevent the suspect pool being narrowed down to four.

[Shade939]

Just now, Category 5 Hurricane said:

Well, I mean, if I wanted to, I could, for example, spend the entire day questioning the reliability of cop reports and trying to prevent the suspect pool being narrowed down to four.

I'm assuming this game is at least partially balanced towards giving Scum a chance of winning...

[Category5]

I'm assuming it is already plenty balanced and that there doesn't have to be an alternate explanation.

[OrangeP47]

Just now, Shade939 said:

I'm assuming this game is at least partially balanced towards giving Scum a chance of winning...

Honestly I wouldn't be surprised now if scum have powers, but there's nothing we can do about that, so why worry about it.  We just have to play the game and advance, and we've advanced quite far now.

[Category5]

Because, afterall, just by having a battle mechanic instead of a lynch mechanic, it's possible town can know exactly who scum are and still lose.

[OrangeP47]

Just now, Category 5 Hurricane said:

Because, afterall, just by having a battle mechanic instead of a lynch mechanic, it's possible town can know exactly who scum are and still lose.

See:  Star Wars Mafia (almost)

[Category5]

I think we'll probably find out in about a minute or two.

[Shade939]

Just now, Category 5 Hurricane said:

I'm assuming it is already plenty balanced and that there doesn't have to be an alternate explanation.

 

Just now, OrangeP47 said:

Honestly I wouldn't be surprised now if scum have powers, but there's nothing we can do about that, so why worry about it.  We just have to play the game and advance, and we've advanced quite far now.

Those two things don't exactly match up with each other you know...

[Jeod]

[OrangeP47]

Just now, Shade939 said:

 

Those two things don't exactly match up with each other you know...

The only thing we can do about scum powers is forfeit the game and not play

[Jeod]

Player	Trainer Nomination	Rocket Nomination
OrangeP47	OrangeP47	Killing_You
Killing_You
Shade939	Category 5	Category 5
FRAYDO		Shade939
Sunflower	Sunflower	Shade939
TheIrishMan
Category 5 Hurricane	Sunflower	Killing_You

Trainers: Sunflower & OrangeP47 (via coinflip)

Rockets: Shade939 & Killing_You

[Category5]

Well. I am indeed surprised.