ChopBam Posted December 16, 2018 Report Share Posted December 16, 2018 On 12/11/2018 at 3:15 PM, VERTi60 said: Players alive/end day CVC Time Left: No time left CVC: Alstar voted nobody Category 5 Hurricane voted nobody ChopBam voted TheIrishman FRAYDO voted OrangeP47 JackoDerp voted TheIrishman Jeod voted Category 5 Hurricane Killing You voted nobody Nodlied voted Voe OrangeP47 voted Voe Shade939 voted TheIrishman Voe voted OrangeP47 8/11 votes casted so far TheIrishman has the most votes - 3 Here's a new possible angle to consider: who was JackoDerp trying to save by breaking the tie with that last-minute vote on TheIrishman? Voe or OrangeP47? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Category 5 Hurricane Posted December 16, 2018 Report Share Posted December 16, 2018 Voe. I need to go back and read Jack's posts, but I'm almost positive every time Voe was mentioned, Jack responded in a way that was supportive to Voe. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killing_You Posted December 16, 2018 Report Share Posted December 16, 2018 Oh wow, that's an angle I hadn't considered. Nice going, Chop. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shade939 Posted December 16, 2018 Report Share Posted December 16, 2018 On 12/14/2018 at 5:07 PM, VERTi60 said: Players alive/end day CVC Time Left: No time left CVC: Alstar voted JackoDerp Category 5 Hurricane voted nobody ChopBam voted Shade939 FRAYDO voted nobody Jeod voted Shade939 Killing You voted JackoDerp Nodlied voted nobody OrangeP47 voted JackoDerp Shade939 voted JackoDerp Voe voted JackoDerp 7/10 votes casted so far JackoDerp has the most votes - 5 One problem though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChopBam Posted December 16, 2018 Report Share Posted December 16, 2018 It's unlikely he was trying to save them both. After all, they voted for each other. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChopBam Posted December 16, 2018 Report Share Posted December 16, 2018 1 minute ago, Shade939 said: One problem though. You're the third guy? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shade939 Posted December 16, 2018 Report Share Posted December 16, 2018 Just now, ChopBam said: You're the third guy? They both lynched JackoDerp in what was a rather close vote. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChopBam Posted December 16, 2018 Report Share Posted December 16, 2018 Just now, Shade939 said: They both lynched JackoDerp in what was a rather close vote. It seemed like a pretty overwhelming case and vote to me. That's why I felt comfortable voting differently. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shade939 Posted December 16, 2018 Report Share Posted December 16, 2018 Just now, ChopBam said: It seemed like a pretty overwhelming case and vote to me. That's why I felt comfortable voting differently. Based on when they voted, I would go with Voe to be the more likely of the pair to be Town. But that's mainly because he didn't change his vote on JackoDerp and I doubt he'd basically leave a vote on a Scum teammate before going AFK. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChopBam Posted December 16, 2018 Report Share Posted December 16, 2018 @Voe, r u scum? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shade939 Posted December 16, 2018 Report Share Posted December 16, 2018 On 12/14/2018 at 12:45 PM, Voe said: ##vote jacko Pretty much the only half-solid lead we've got. Here's when Voe's vote was cast for reference. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Category 5 Hurricane Posted December 16, 2018 Report Share Posted December 16, 2018 Given how Voe just doesn't give a fuck and how poor of a job Jack did explaining himself or even trying to get himself off the hook in the closing hours, I'm not sure about that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shade939 Posted December 16, 2018 Report Share Posted December 16, 2018 Just now, Category 5 Hurricane said: Given how Voe just doesn't give a fuck and how poor of a job Jack did explaining himself or even trying to get himself off the hook in the closing hours, I'm not sure about that. He would have been sabotaging his own objective in that case, which would definitely throw me off if he did do that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shade939 Posted December 16, 2018 Report Share Posted December 16, 2018 I thought he had placed vote sooner than that, but a 4 hour gap isn't that big a period to be AFK in. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChopBam Posted December 16, 2018 Report Share Posted December 16, 2018 On 12/14/2018 at 5:31 AM, Voe said: I thought about it a little bit and since NKs can target submerged subs anyway, i guess i can reveal a bit more info about me. I was moved into proximity of land. A sub next to a land tile cannot submerge. As far as i can see there is no way for me to use any night actions any more, and the only thing i can really do is keep shooting during daytime. Additionally, my PM mentions me detecting another unit in close proximity. Now, the question is whether it's a land or a water unit. And, if it's a land unit, what are the odds it's the possible chronosphere? Do soviets have any land units/buildings? Based on this claim, whoever the Sub Pen is can confirm whether Voe is telling the truth. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Category 5 Hurricane Posted December 16, 2018 Report Share Posted December 16, 2018 I have to say, the one thing that leads me away from that case is that I think Jack may also have told us how the Chronoshifting works, since he said with little evidence that the end result of the shift is random, which would explain why Voe didn't wind up shifted to the known land tile. Still wouldn't explain why Voe was the target. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChopBam Posted December 16, 2018 Report Share Posted December 16, 2018 Now that I'm thinking more about Voe's claim there, the "can't submerge" thing could be an honest cover-up for an Allied ship. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Category 5 Hurricane Posted December 16, 2018 Report Share Posted December 16, 2018 Frankly, I'm leaning more along the lines of a certain chronoshifting unit that can shoot. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killing_You Posted December 16, 2018 Report Share Posted December 16, 2018 Let's also not forget that I left an AFK vote on my teammate back in Warhammer. It almost cleared me, until I slipped up later. Also, Voe tends to be a power player in games that he plays. He's unusually quiet this round. My only concern is how he reacted to being moved (which is still a bit of a mystery), which seemed more town to me. That's actually a bit of a hole in this case. However, since we haven't had a Sub Pen claim to back it up, it's still up in the air. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Category 5 Hurricane Posted December 16, 2018 Report Share Posted December 16, 2018 And that he's actually shifted himself partly onto water. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Category 5 Hurricane Posted December 16, 2018 Report Share Posted December 16, 2018 Regarding the vote, recall that Jack originally claimed he didn't like the idea of lynching, but something forced him to vote at the last minute. And we've already seen him suddenly change his mind when forced. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChopBam Posted December 16, 2018 Report Share Posted December 16, 2018 Philadelphia project? I seem to recall some experiments on a disappearing destroyer. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChopBam Posted December 16, 2018 Report Share Posted December 16, 2018 I think the "I'm close to land so now so I can't submerge" thing is bullshit. ##vote Voe Convince me otherwise. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Category 5 Hurricane Posted December 16, 2018 Report Share Posted December 16, 2018 He also hasn't told us that he's the guy at M15. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Category 5 Hurricane Posted December 16, 2018 Report Share Posted December 16, 2018 Sorry, not M15. I meant M12. I'm pretty sure he hasn't said that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChopBam Posted December 16, 2018 Report Share Posted December 16, 2018 1 minute ago, Category 5 Hurricane said: He also hasn't told us that he's the guy at M15. M...*12? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChopBam Posted December 16, 2018 Report Share Posted December 16, 2018 Just now, Category 5 Hurricane said: Sorry, not M15. I meant M12. I'm pretty sure he hasn't said that. k 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shade939 Posted December 16, 2018 Report Share Posted December 16, 2018 Yeah, I have an annoying long list of questions about how a unit would be capable of moving in a game of battleship considering all of the various utility uses and other ways it could possibly be used... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shade939 Posted December 16, 2018 Report Share Posted December 16, 2018 Just for starters, could you combo it with other abilities or not, and if so which ones are allowed and which ones would be denied? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killing_You Posted December 16, 2018 Report Share Posted December 16, 2018 I'll probably place my vote closer to hammer, but right now I'm leaning towards Voe as well. I'd like to give him a chance to defend himself, as well as keep the possibility of a sub pen defense on the table. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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