Games [Game Over] RA:APB-themed Mafia Game VII (B0tes Edition!)

[ChopBam]

On 12/11/2018 at 3:15 PM, VERTi60 said:

 Players alive/end day CVC

Time Left:

No time left

CVC:

Alstar voted nobody

Category 5 Hurricane voted nobody

ChopBam voted TheIrishman

FRAYDO voted OrangeP47

JackoDerp voted TheIrishman

Jeod voted Category 5 Hurricane

Killing You voted nobody

Nodlied voted Voe

OrangeP47 voted Voe

Shade939 voted TheIrishman

Voe voted OrangeP47

8/11 votes casted so far

TheIrishman has the most votes - 3

 

Here's a new possible angle to consider: who was JackoDerp trying to save by breaking the tie with that last-minute vote on TheIrishman? Voe or OrangeP47?

[Category5]

Voe. I need to go back and read Jack's posts, but I'm almost positive every time Voe was mentioned, Jack responded in a way that was supportive to Voe.

[Killing_You]

Oh wow, that's an angle I hadn't considered. Nice going, Chop.

[Shade939]

On 12/14/2018 at 5:07 PM, VERTi60 said:

 

 Players alive/end day CVC

Time Left:

No time left

CVC:

Alstar voted JackoDerp

Category 5 Hurricane voted nobody

ChopBam voted Shade939

FRAYDO voted nobody

Jeod voted Shade939

Killing You voted JackoDerp

Nodlied voted nobody

OrangeP47 voted JackoDerp

Shade939 voted JackoDerp

Voe voted JackoDerp

7/10 votes casted so far

JackoDerp has the most votes - 5

 

One problem though.

[ChopBam]

It's unlikely he was trying to save them both. After all, they voted for each other.

[ChopBam]

1 minute ago, Shade939 said:

One problem though.

You're the third guy?

[Shade939]

Just now, ChopBam said:

You're the third guy?

They both lynched JackoDerp in what was a rather close vote.

[ChopBam]

Just now, Shade939 said:

They both lynched JackoDerp in what was a rather close vote.

It seemed like a pretty overwhelming case and vote to me. That's why I felt comfortable voting differently.

[Shade939]

Just now, ChopBam said:

It seemed like a pretty overwhelming case and vote to me. That's why I felt comfortable voting differently. 

Based on when they voted, I would go with Voe to be the more likely of the pair to be Town. But that's mainly because he didn't change his vote on JackoDerp and I doubt he'd basically leave a vote on a Scum teammate before going AFK.

[ChopBam]

@Voe, r u scum?

[Shade939]

On 12/14/2018 at 12:45 PM, Voe said:

##vote jacko

Pretty much the only half-solid lead we've got.

Here's when Voe's vote was cast for reference.

[Category5]

Given how Voe just doesn't give a fuck and how poor of a job Jack did explaining himself or even trying to get himself off the hook in the closing hours, I'm not sure about that.

[Shade939]

Just now, Category 5 Hurricane said:

Given how Voe just doesn't give a fuck and how poor of a job Jack did explaining himself or even trying to get himself off the hook in the closing hours, I'm not sure about that.

He would have been sabotaging his own objective in that case, which would definitely throw me off if he did do that.

[Shade939]

I thought he had placed vote sooner than that, but a 4 hour gap isn't that big a period to be AFK in.

[ChopBam]

On 12/14/2018 at 5:31 AM, Voe said:

I thought about it a little bit and since NKs can target submerged subs anyway, i guess i can reveal a bit more info about me.

I was moved into proximity of land. A sub next to a land tile cannot submerge. As far as i can see there is no way for me to use any night actions any more, and the only thing i can really do is keep shooting during daytime. Additionally, my PM mentions me detecting another unit in close proximity.

Now, the question is whether it's a land or a water unit. And, if it's a land unit, what are the odds it's the possible chronosphere? Do soviets have any land units/buildings?

Based on this claim, whoever the Sub Pen is can confirm whether Voe is telling the truth.

[Category5]

I have to say, the one thing that leads me away from that case is that I think Jack may also have told us how the Chronoshifting works, since he said with little evidence that the end result of the shift is random, which would explain why Voe didn't wind up shifted to the known land tile. Still wouldn't explain why Voe was the target.

[ChopBam]

Now that I'm thinking more about Voe's claim there, the "can't submerge" thing could be an honest cover-up for an Allied ship.

[Category5]

Frankly, I'm leaning more along the lines of a certain chronoshifting unit that can shoot.

[Killing_You]

Let's also not forget that I left an AFK vote on my teammate back in Warhammer. It almost cleared me, until I slipped up later. Also, Voe tends to be a power player in games that he plays. He's unusually quiet this round.

My only concern is how he reacted to being moved (which is still a bit of a mystery), which seemed more town to me. That's actually a bit of a hole in this case. However, since we haven't had a Sub Pen claim to back it up, it's still up in the air.

[Category5]

And that he's actually shifted himself partly onto water.

[Category5]

Regarding the vote, recall that Jack originally claimed he didn't like the idea of lynching, but something forced him to vote at the last minute. And we've already seen him suddenly change his mind when forced.

[ChopBam]

Philadelphia project? I seem to recall some experiments on a disappearing destroyer.

[ChopBam]

I think the "I'm close to land so now so I can't submerge" thing is bullshit.

##vote Voe

Convince me otherwise. 

[Category5]

He also hasn't told us that he's the guy at M15.

[Category5]

Sorry, not M15. I meant M12. I'm pretty sure he hasn't said that.

[ChopBam]

1 minute ago, Category 5 Hurricane said:

He also hasn't told us that he's the guy at M15.

M...*12?

[ChopBam]

Just now, Category 5 Hurricane said:

Sorry, not M15. I meant M12. I'm pretty sure he hasn't said that.

k

[Shade939]

Yeah, I have an annoying long list of questions about how a unit would be capable of moving in a game of battleship considering all of the various utility uses and other ways it could possibly be used...

[Shade939]

Just for starters, could you combo it with other abilities or not, and if so which ones are allowed and which ones would be denied?

[Killing_You]

I'll probably place my vote closer to hammer, but right now I'm leaning towards Voe as well. I'd like to give him a chance to defend himself, as well as keep the possibility of a sub pen defense on the table.