ChopBam Posted January 13, 2020 Report Share Posted January 13, 2020 ##vote nolynch. We get an extra day (and night of reports) if we nolynch twice. Also okay with 24 hour day phases. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killing_You Posted January 13, 2020 Report Share Posted January 13, 2020 1 hour ago, Killing_You said: ##vote NoLynch :P 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeod Posted January 13, 2020 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2020 I suppose I can call an early hammer if everyone is set on their current vote. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChopBam Posted January 13, 2020 Report Share Posted January 13, 2020 I feel like the more nights we get, the more we can narrow down the reports logically. We can use the night kills to assess reports from 100% confirmed cops and try to determine what type they were. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeod Posted January 13, 2020 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2020 Day 1 is now officially over. Nobody is lynched. Remember, 3 night posts per person. You have 26h to get your actions in. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voe Posted January 13, 2020 Report Share Posted January 13, 2020 I mean, we have 1 sane, 1 insane, 1 paranoid and 1 naive cop. Whatever scum does, he has to assume the role of one of them. Sooner or later we'll have 2 people coming up with the same results, and that gives us a 1 in 2 guaranteed hit. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iLikeToSnipe Posted January 13, 2020 Report Share Posted January 13, 2020 So, I've thought about it some more and I think that self investigating should be left for the very end (if at all). I think we're going to be able to gather enough information to determine our cop sanity without self examining. Because that's really just establishing a control and chances are you will investigate one of the players who ends up flipping. I'm pretty tired, so I'm not feeling like putting the effort into fully drawing this out honestly. Does this seem like solid reasoning? I don't think we can coordinate investigation targets reliably, but I think we can at least get some planning done. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeP47 Posted January 13, 2020 Report Share Posted January 13, 2020 1 hour ago, iLikeToSnipe said: So, I've thought about it some more and I think that self investigating should be left for the very end (if at all). I think we're going to be able to gather enough information to determine our cop sanity without self examining. Because that's really just establishing a control and chances are you will investigate one of the players who ends up flipping. I'm pretty tired, so I'm not feeling like putting the effort into fully drawing this out honestly. Does this seem like solid reasoning? I don't think we can coordinate investigation targets reliably, but I think we can at least get some planning done. I have some thoughts, but it's true that sharing them too much would just lead to the NK sniping someone who's report is needed for the coordination to really matter, so I'll just leave it at I'm not self-investigating either. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killing_You Posted January 14, 2020 Report Share Posted January 14, 2020 Just a heads-up, I'll probably be late after day start. I have a table read tonight, and the same goes for Thursday. I will be here to give my report afterwards, or at least the next morning, though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeod Posted January 14, 2020 Author Report Share Posted January 14, 2020 DAY TWO @Voe, the Cop (sanity not revealed), was killed last night! Hurry and find that scum! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killing_You Posted January 14, 2020 Report Share Posted January 14, 2020 Huh, day started earlier than expected. Unfortunately, I elected to investigate Voe, and I got a Town report. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeod Posted January 14, 2020 Author Report Share Posted January 14, 2020 Just now, Killing_You said: Huh, day started earlier than expected. Actually, it's been 24 hours since hammer. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killing_You Posted January 14, 2020 Report Share Posted January 14, 2020 Just now, Jeod said: Actually, it's been 24 hours since hammer. I'm still used to it being 5pm my time (CST). :P 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iLikeToSnipe Posted January 14, 2020 Report Share Posted January 14, 2020 I investigated ChopBam and got mafia. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killing_You Posted January 14, 2020 Report Share Posted January 14, 2020 [PLAYER] [N0 REPORT] [N1 REPORT] [NOT THIS SANITY] Voe iLTS Town rip Paranoid Killing_You ChopBam Town Voe Town Paranoid, Insane iLikeToSnipe Voe Mafia ChopBam Mafia Naive ChopBam Killing_You Mafia ??? Naive OrangeP47 Voe Town ??? Paranoid, Insane 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killing_You Posted January 14, 2020 Report Share Posted January 14, 2020 Blech, I made a minor mistake. One second. [PLAYER] [N0 REPORT] [N1 REPORT] [NOT THIS SANITY] Voe iLTS Town rip Paranoid Killing_You ChopBam Town Voe Town Paranoid, Insane iLikeToSnipe Voe Mafia ChopBam Mafia Naive, Sane ChopBam Killing_You Mafia ??? Naive OrangeP47 Voe Town ??? Paranoid, Insane 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeP47 Posted January 14, 2020 Report Share Posted January 14, 2020 I investigated KY and got Town. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killing_You Posted January 14, 2020 Report Share Posted January 14, 2020 Guess we're just waiting on Chop now. See you guys after the read, by the way. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voe Posted January 15, 2020 Report Share Posted January 15, 2020 Good luck to all parties 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChopBam Posted January 15, 2020 Report Share Posted January 15, 2020 I got mafia on OrangeP47. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChopBam Posted January 15, 2020 Report Share Posted January 15, 2020 Player N0 Report N1 Report Sane Insane Naive Paranoid Voe iLTS/Town - Killing_You Chop/Town Voe/Town iLikeToSnipe Voe/Mafia Chop/Mafia ChopBam KY/Mafia Orange/Mafia OrangeP47 Voe/Town KY/Town 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChopBam Posted January 15, 2020 Report Share Posted January 15, 2020 Just working some possible combos here: If KY is mafia, then I am Paranoid (b/c I got a mafia report both from KY and from Orange, opposite alignments). This would logically make iLTS Insane. Voe and Orange could roll dice to see who's Sane and Naive. If iLTS is mafia, then I am Paranoid and Voe was Insane (getting his N0 report on iLTS as town). KY and Orange could roll dice to determine who's Sane and Naive. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChopBam Posted January 15, 2020 Report Share Posted January 15, 2020 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChopBam Posted January 15, 2020 Report Share Posted January 15, 2020 I totally didn't realize control enter just sends in the post, lol, sorry for my terrible formatting. Let me try again. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChopBam Posted January 15, 2020 Report Share Posted January 15, 2020 Just working some combos here: If KY is mafia, then I am Paranoid (b/c I got a mafia report both from KY and from Orange, opposite alignments). This would logically make iLTS Insane. Voe and Orange could roll dice to see who's Sane and Naive. If iLTS is mafia, then I am Paranoid and Voe was Insane (getting his N0 report on iLTS as town). KY and Orange could roll dice to determine who's Sane and Naive. Logical impossibility: If I am mafia, then iLTS is Paranoid. KY would be Naive (because he investigated me for a town report). This would make Orange Sane, which would mean by process of elimination that Voe is Insane (impossible because he got a town report on iLTS). If OrangeP47 is mafia, then I am Paranoid (mafia reports on both KY and Orange), which would make iLTS insane. Voe and KY could roll for who is Sane or Naive. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChopBam Posted January 15, 2020 Report Share Posted January 15, 2020 So logically it's between KY, iLTS, and OrangeP47 as our possible scum members. I'm leaning iLTS for a few reasons that I am having a hard time articulating right now. I was hoping his or my N1 report would be town, so the other person could be confirmed as a town Paranoid, but his N1 report was also mafia, as if to keep that confirmation from happening. The N1 kill was Voe, which happened to be iLTS's "report" from N0, and it looks to me like he's trying to prove that he's the insane one and not Voe (because if Voe was insane, then iLTS is mafia, and this could be proven more easily if Voe lived another day and got a reverse report the following night). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChopBam Posted January 15, 2020 Report Share Posted January 15, 2020 1 hour ago, ChopBam said: Just working some combos here: If KY is mafia, then I am Paranoid (b/c I got a mafia report both from KY and from Orange, opposite alignments). This would logically make iLTS Insane. Voe and Orange could roll dice to see who's Sane and Naive. If iLTS is mafia, then I am Paranoid and Voe was Insane (getting his N0 report on iLTS as town). KY and Orange could roll dice to determine who's Sane and Naive. Logical impossibility: If I am mafia, then iLTS is Paranoid. KY would be Naive (because he investigated me for a town report). This would make Orange Sane, which would mean by process of elimination that Voe is Insane (impossible because he got a town report on iLTS). If OrangeP47 is mafia, then I am Paranoid (mafia reports on both KY and Orange), which would make iLTS insane. Voe and KY could roll for who is Sane or Naive. Here's a visualizer for this post, with the adjustment to the KY scum possibility that OrangeP47 couldn't be sane in that instance. If KY scum: Player N0 Report N1 Report Sane Insane Naive Paranoid Voe iLTS/Town - iLikeToSnipe Voe/Mafia Chop/Mafia ChopBam KY/Mafia Orange/Mafia OrangeP47 Voe/Town KY/Town Killing_You Chop/Town Voe/Town If iLTS scum: Player N0 Report N1 Report Sane Insane Naive Paranoid Voe iLTS/Town - Killing_You Chop/Town Voe/Town ChopBam KY/Mafia Orange/Mafia OrangeP47 Voe/Town KY/Town iLikeToSnipe Voe/Mafia Chop/Mafia If ChopBam scum: Player N0 Report N1 Report Sane Insane Naive Paranoid Voe iLTS/Town - Killing_You Chop/Town Voe/Town iLikeToSnipe Voe/Mafia Chop/Mafia OrangeP47 Voe/Town KY/Town ChopBam KY/Mafia Orange/Mafia If OrangeP47 scum: Player N0 Report N1 Report Sane Insane Naive Paranoid Voe iLTS/Town - Killing_You Chop/Town Voe/Town iLikeToSnipe Voe/Mafia Chop/Mafia ChopBam KY/Mafia Orange/Mafia OrangeP47 Voe/Town KY/Town 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChopBam Posted January 15, 2020 Report Share Posted January 15, 2020 You know what that visualizer just helped me realize? In none of those cases am I insane. Therefore I am confirmed logically as our paranoid cop. So while I may be the night target because I am confirmed, I am also useless and if I am to be the night target, there will still be at least one useful cop in play tomorrow to share his report. Either iLTS is Insane or he is Mafia. I half expect him to put up a "town" report tomorrow in order to "prove" either KY or OrangeP47 as mafia for the lynch, but now that I've mentioned this, maybe he won't go that route. I am not 100% sure that he is mafia but I have a hunch based on his patterns. Updated chart: Player N0 Report N1 Report Sane Insane Naive Paranoid Voe iLTS/Town - Killing_You Chop/Town Voe/Town iLikeToSnipe Voe/Mafia Chop/Mafia ChopBam KY/Mafia Orange/Mafia OrangeP47 Voe/Town KY/Town 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iLikeToSnipe Posted January 15, 2020 Report Share Posted January 15, 2020 I 100% agree with ChopBam that he's the paranoid cop, I don't see any other way around that. Which would make me the insane cop. 3 hours ago, ChopBam said: So logically it's between KY, iLTS, and OrangeP47 as our possible scum members. I'm leaning iLTS for a few reasons that I am having a hard time articulating right now. I was hoping his or my N1 report would be town, so the other person could be confirmed as a town Paranoid, but his N1 report was also mafia, as if to keep that confirmation from happening. The N1 kill was Voe, which happened to be iLTS's "report" from N0, and it looks to me like he's trying to prove that he's the insane one and not Voe (because if Voe was insane, then iLTS is mafia, and this could be proven more easily if Voe lived another day and got a reverse report the following night). I know I'm town, which means that it's either KY or Orange. So I'm going to address your points here. Just picking randomly I'd have a 1-in-3 chance of getting a town result, there's not much hoping for me getting a town result. Also, if I was mafia I think with the logic you've used I would have known in advance that you were the paranoid cop and I could have used whatever report I wanted today to get a lynch in my favor. If I wanted Voe dead, then why did I swing the vote off of him and onto a nolynch? If I were mafia and wanted to kill him I could have just not done that and gotten a bonus kill during the night. If I'm trying to "steal" Voe's insane cop role, that's some insane luck. I made my soft-claim post first thing in the game and quickly followed it up with my full report. That's also another reason why I would have wanted a Voe lynch as mafia. We had two people who jumped onto the Voe bandwagon D1 and those two people also had reports of the same alignment. One of them had a legit reason (at least in their mind). I believe the other was taking the opportunity not just to get town killed, but to get a town member killed that they could more easily fake a cop sanity from. It has to be KY or Orange. One of them is mafia and the other is 50/50 the sane or naive cop. I'm not sure what the best way to investigate them is, or if we should even plan it out. But I think we could clear it up tonight. I have to run to work, but I'll be working on a case against both to see if there's anything that stands out. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeP47 Posted January 15, 2020 Report Share Posted January 15, 2020 I had a feeling Chop would be the paranoid cop even before he posted, and that this was all pointing towards KY, but I didn't say anything in case Chop had some sort of curve ball. I suppose this is obvious from my perspective, knowing I'm town, but I can see how you might think I'm scum and I haven't been involved in the copping all that much. I agree the Voe kill didn't make much sense if ILTS is mafia (unless he's playing some serious deflection...), but as I said D1, we have too many town reports and just the right amount of mafia reports so I'm inclined to believe him, especially now that we have a bigger picture. Hell, I'm confident enough I'd be down for voting KY *now* but I can understand if everyone thinks that's a bit too bold. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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