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    So, Jeod, do you still think that there is no Allied team in this game? This is something you have claimed on a number of occasions now.
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    ##unvote -ing to prevent an early hammer. I don't think it means much since Wallywood isn't playing and Chaos is surely town, but Jeod might choose to hammer himself early if he thinks he's trapped anyway. I actually have another angle I want to pursue on someone else. But now it is my bed time.
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    I'm actively considering that it may be that mafia needed to be activated by Chaos or I issuing a role to them. They'd receive a different role than normal and earn the ability to night kill, perhaps even more than one at a time. Perhaps this was done as an autobalance of sorts. It prevents the mafia and cult being an active threat at the same time. Or, perhaps, just the elimination of the cult will activate the mafia team.
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    I really did not want you to do that, but I guess it was unavoidable. What you've done here is reveal that you believed my claim that I produce units. If ChopBam confirming or not determined if I was a mafia or cult, you're saying that if I can produce units, ChopBam will clear me, and if I can't, he won't. You already believed that I can. If you weren't sure, having ChopBam's confirmation doesn't prove anything. If I was mafia and he was too, he could claim as I said regardless of my role. Your argument only works from mafia perspective where all you need to know is who I gave the role too. You wanted to know if I was a cult leader, or exactly what I claimed to be. If I was exactly what I said I claimed to be, you wanted to know who I gave it to. That was the objective of this argument.
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    That's at least the second time you've complained that town is too OP. You've been arguing from mafia point of view a lot of the time. You believe claims like Mojoman's cop claim at the drop of a hat and you don't like the idea that town roles can empower themselves, and you've been digging for information all game that helps mafia more than town. I think you're jelly. ##vote Jeod Killing_You, a lot has been said today. I'll have to do some proper reexamination. It's a good point to think about. Nodlied is someone I'm still not sure about. If you are telling the truth about blocking Mojoman, unless the visceroids started out with more than Issac at the helm, they are out of the game. It's possible you aren't telling the truth and they are still out of the game. Both Issac and Mojo sounded kinda defeated in their later posts, so I think that team probably done. This would mean that either an Allied team or another anti-town third party has to exist.
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    I said this before, but even if Mojoman was signaling this, we still wouldn't know anything about Nodlied because we don't know the sanity of Mojoman's role. The only thing we could rule out is that he isn't an Allied Spy.
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    I'm not sure about that. I think I've only seen a cult that worked like that once, in a game that VERTi60 didn't host. I have seen and been a part of cults in VERTi60 games that did not get killed by attempts to convert mafia targets.
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    Because I likewise missed this, I'll dig from Danganronpa and say "No, that's wrong!" He COULD be scum precisely because Mojoman would have failed a conversion attempt anyway. That's what opens the door for Killing_You to claim he blocked him! You have literally just now gone for an argument for shooting a role that claims he creates roles that you yourself call a doc. Almost everything you have been saying since Day 2 is just catastrophic for a town player to say or do.
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    Yeah, so do I. Which is why we've always said that a mafia building is effectively impossible. Godot doesn't slam his first. He uses the dark essense of Godot blend #21.
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    If we're actually both town, this discussion must be hilarious for the dead doc denizens.
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    Oooh yeah! That song is exactly what this feels like right now.
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    Isn't that just as shaky is saying that it's OP for town to have a War Factory without much chance to kill it? (Which we don't know how well they can compete with that) If I'm an Allied Warfactory, you could use all your guns, lose Chaos to anything so you can't get any more, and now you can't win. Period.
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    And then, you're waiting for my target to clear me by saying "yes, I got it" as the only thing that clears me. But I've got to say, there is a glaring problem with that. If I were an Allied Warfactory, I would give my tanks to other Allies. My target (or anyone on my theoretical team, really) would naturally say "yes, I got it" and suddenly I'm clear. Your supposed need for somebody to speak up to clarify that he received what I said I handed out doesn't actually determine what side I'm on! But I don't think you care about that! You just want to know who it is so that you can kill him! It doesn't make logical sense other wise!
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    If I was an Allied Warfactory, I'd be an unlynchable scum. Let that sink in for a minute.
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    I'll try from the other direction. Since there is a Heavy Tank on the field, how would it make sense for town to have the tank destroyer role? One that also roleblocks supposedly. This IS an outlandish game! We've been in crazy town for the last two days! Also, I'll point out that the standard vehicle destroyer role can also roleblock but can do so every turn (but only to vehicles). If Killing_You is that role, he couldn't roleblock Mojoman, but a conversion attempt would still fail if he was also mafia, and we at least know he isn't a visceroid.
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    Does that bother you?
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    Oh, fuck, I misremembered Chaos's N1 target. Dammit, that argument went down the drain.
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    Because it doesn't make sense that there isn't one. Indeed, just a moment ago you were saying this game was balanced against town, now you think the town is OP. What if it's both? What if there really is a scum team, a third party team, and also a town that is particularly powerful? I also think that it is possible that the roles that Chaos and I hand out are actually what makes the mafia team capable of making kills if we hand them to the wrong people. Killing_You, did you accept Chaos's invitation. Yes or no.
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    1) Don't know that. Also I'm not confirming ChopBam as the target because it would be stupid to call this out publically. Are you fucking stupid, or part of the mafia team? You did this with the guy who actually turned out to be the cop, too. 2) No. I can't use it every night and I decided to wait one night so that I could feel more confident in my choice.
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    Because I'm the fucking War Factory! I MADE the tank! And the person who has it has greatly disappointed me in his arguments today, because I thought he'd get the hint! He should consider me as clear as Chaos is right now. And yes, naturally that would be why I'm totally not concerned about getting lynched, because I can't be! By the way, if I'm going to reveal that much I may as well reveal the "gimmick". Taking "forced voting" to another level, I must maintain a cumulative vote total higher than anybody else, with a risk of a penalty effective after Day 1. Thus, the rush to get more votes out on Day 1, and the relative lack of votes since then as I don't have much to worry about given my established lead. Except for someone spamming votes to get ahead of me, which would stand as a very public attempt on my life. Edit to mafia edit: I said there is likely not a doc role, as in the literal Medic role the mafia has. I didn't consider the Heavy Tank to be a doc role but instead more like a role that hands out temporary BP, but I guess it works the same way if I think about it. If you thought it was a contradiction that a Heavy Tank was a doc role and I'm saying there isn't a town doc role, why didn't you mention it before? And besides, since I hadn't made the tank yet, even if it is a doc role, there wasn't one when I said it, because I hadn't produced it yet. By the way, Chaos, do you receive any indication that your target accepts or denies the role? I think my target accepted the role, but I couldn't accept yours, so it would be good to know if you can tell.
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    HOLY SHIT KILL KILLING_YOU! I know there is a Heavy Tank on the field and this guy just claimed to be a vehicle killer. Since we know there is a town vehicle, a vehicle killing role is most likely mafia. Kill / lynch the fuck out of this guy! If he was mafia, this would also explain how he could "block" Mojoman whilst still being a vehicle destroyer. ##vote Killing_You By the way, for those of you still trying to figure out my "gimmick", you really are wasting your time. I think I more than told you enough about it before and you accepted it then. Still, if we must, I'm still ok with the idea of being lynched. I do not want to be fired upon. Wait, apparently I already voted for him, but forgot. Oh well.
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    Ok, good. I can confirm that it did happen, though I automatically declined due to my role being incompatible.
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    Chaos, if you claim to be responsible for the training invites, can you confirm who you visited each night? Nodlied, I'm afraid you do not understand the nature of my gimmick, and I have to leave it that way. I don't have to do it as often as I used to, so I don't.
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    If there is another visceroid, it's probably Killing_You or Nodlied. Killing_You because Mojoman tried to clear him in advance, (which never made sense as a town cop move, so it seems like a gambit to me), making him a pretty good target to pick up if we actually believed his claim, or Nodlied because the use of his action could just a ruse to make us think that Nodlied isn't teamed with Mojoman. It didn't really hurt Nodlied in any real way. By the way, we can't forget that scum failed to kill again. I think we are looking at crazy land solutions to that problem. 1) Scum can't kill until or unless something happens (currently thinking it may be related to a town role action!), or 2) Wallywood is the only mafia player, or 3) There isn't a scum team. Mafia edit: 2) Wallywood is the only mafia player [who can kill], or 3) There isn't a [mafia] team
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    I don't think Nodlied is a valid target, at least not for that reason. The shotgun implies the Starshina role, which he should have lost when he was apparently converted. He would have been able to investigate his target on Night 1, but would not have been able to use it Night 2. Given that he already claimed to investigate Killing_You, this rules out him finding Nodlied to be mafia on either night. Furthermore, since he also apparently never investigated himself, we can't know which version of the Starshina we are looking at. If Mojoman was sane, Killing_You is either town, or a Allied Spy. If Mojoman was insane, Killing_You would be mafia, but not an Allied Spy. Mojoman might have also been planning ahead, using his cop claim to clear a future target to convert, and may or may not have ever investigated him. In this case it is possible that he marked Nodlied as mafia, but again we don't know what version of the Starshina we have, where Nodlied could be mafia, but not an Allied Spy, or town. I guess we could confirm that Nodlied is not an Allied Spy in that case. The most safe conclusion to make is that Mojoman and Nodlied were not on the same team when he made that bite action, so Nodlied is not also a visceroid. Probably. HOWEVER. There is a potential contradiction up there. Based on what I seem to recall from previous games, players who were visited by a Starshina were told about the visit in a result PM. If he investigated Killing_You, Killing_You should have been able to confirm that during Day 2 and he failed to do so. Indeed, he claimed the opposite. This means either Mojoman or Killing_You have lied about this. (Or I'm wrong and Starshina's don't reveal the fact that they visited. Other vets should be able to confirm or deny this). Nodlied should also have known this if he was investigated on Night 1, and I don't think he ever said anything of the sort. I will be rereading that day to see if I can find any signals like that. Going forward, my top suspects are Killing_You, Jeod, and Wallywood. ##vote Killing_You
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