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Town who don't visit at night should be unsure because there are multiple possibilities. Scum are the sure ones. So tell me, are you sure? If this proof was in the post that I so easily rebutted before, Alstar better have a good reason to be bandwagoning with you, because he doesn't want us to give him discounts for being new.

I'm not selectively ignorant. You're tripping on your own legs, post after post after post, and then you accuse me of ignorance. Says the guy who is completely ignoring possible/likely scenarios because he has convinced himself of a particular thing. The only explanation that I can come up with for this behavior is that you are not town.

Voe, the thing about you that confuses me this round is that you are being selectively ignorant in pushing a case very strongly, while at the same time sounding genuinely interested in a pro-town result.

I don't think he was asking the GM.....

FINALLY!!! Although, what good info did we get from Verti flipping? And in the end it only brought us closer to MYLO.

Are you sure about that? All I see is which seems pretty soft. If there was even possibility of LYLO, shouldn't the GM have said so in the day opening post, rather than a mere "mislynch could result in a scum win"?

Maybe I really wanted to see who Jeod was? It was important to do, considering our past games and Jeod's D1 actions, especially tunneling for a Verti lynch. I also thought it would be important to investigate him considering that he seems to play the same way as town and scum (which Cat5 said in another game, and which I agree with now). 1) Cat5 went pretty hard on Verti D1, along with some others of us. 2) Cat5 only made posts during the joke phase because that was the only time he was alive. I'm guessing you're referring to this post (reasoning which has already been responded to): And this is bad because..? And the fact you wanted them to come out and hardclaim immediately was telling to me that you wanted to know who the cops were so you could kill them. Oh but I did. You really don't read posts. Not so. My continued, unanswered questions on why no lynching is bad, in the face of all opposition from the vets, does not seem like a bandwagon to me. Your confusing behavior is making me flip flop on you, and that's it. The fact remains,

Of course, your saying this might let the scum leave me alive in the hopes that I'd be lynched tomorrow. This could play in our favor, as I'd have another night to investigate. Unlikely, though.

You're making a bigger deal out of my rapid responses than needs to be made. Among all the ridiculousness you've spouted about me being scum, you made the case that Jeod, FRAYDO, and I are on a baddie team. Well, why don't we make us all happy and lynch FRAYDO? If I've bussed him, then he is scum and town will live another day (minus probably me). Mafia edit: I know that last parenthetical note probably doesn't make sense. I was inserting the idea that I will likely be nightkilled tonight as I have hardclaimed PR, and not continuing off the idea of myself bussing fraydo.

You know what, Voe, if we can agree on nothing else, but that FRAYDO is scum, let's go after FRAYDO. KY makes a good point, and Jeod hasn't ruled him out. ##vote FRAYDO itjustmakessense.jpg

You tell me, mr softclaim cop. If you actually read posts, you'd see I already asked the question and linked to the mafia wiki.

Oh, so smug still I see.

What if Jeod is the serial killer?

You make a very town-sounding post, but then say stuff like this. It's why I'm flip-flopping on you so hard. And why would this be? You've claimed you can't visit people. Not even a PR claim. Voe, I swear if you're town... I'm not so sure on this, BUT it caused me to question what would the cop's report show up as if he investigated a serial killer? Would the serial killer show up as vanilla, as the wiki suggests?

Not correct. If that happens, mafia can make it 3:3 - and thats the point where town is on lost position. Im not sure how 3 to 3 lynch votes are solved, but if its via dice roll - then situation will happen next day if they are extremely lucky as scum might have more than 1 killing option. Do you understand MYLO, bro? In a MYLO situation, town can still afford to no lynch. If they can afford to no lynch, then they can definitely afford to kill a serial killer. http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Mislynch-and-Lose

If the serial killer is lynched today, then there will be only ONE nightkill tonight. Since today is MYLO rather than LYLO, I think we can get away with lynching the serial killer. Are you sure this is true?

Uh, you know I also voted no lynch too, right? For some reason the vets are all very secretive about why it's so bad. When did this thread turn into a scumdoc?

Wait, serial killers can't be vote-lynched?

If you're actually town, you're going to have fun eating these words.

Dammit Voe, why do you have to sound so much like town now? My vote keeps wanting to switch between you and FRAYDO.

While something in him seems town-like to me, there's a lot of merit to your postulation that he is the serial killer. At first I thought Voe was being publicly suspicious of me to throw scum off my scent and to possibly even save my ass from a nightkill tonight, but the more he posts, the more it seems clear that he wants me gone. Voe if you flip town, I swear... our loss will be your fault. In any event, I am very likely not to survive until D3 at this point. I've tried to come across and give you all my investigation results as softly as possible, but Voe made me do it. Yes, I investigated Jeod last night as the NKVD Spy and he turned up clean (unless he is a Godfather/Spy, as I stated the first time). I see that I also had no reason to unvote. ##vote Voe And Alstar gets a discount for being new.

Changing settings in engine.cfg or through the launcher?

Why assume this? TP is likely responsible for the extra death, and if this is the case and we kill TP we prevent that second death from happening. Mafia edit/addendum/clarification: *we prevent that second death from happening again tonight.*

The only "real" argument FRAYDO has against me is my no lynch vote. Nothing else, and he's so sure. I was a bit suspicious of CK, FRAYDO, and KY before, but now I have a solid reason to eye FRAYDO. Mulling over FRAYDO's post, I realize that in a MYLO situation, the scum won't have anything to lose by pushing very hard to result in a town lynch, because a mislynch scum implication won't matter, as they will have won. You know, FRAYDO, if a lack of "revenge voting" was a valid argument to use here, have you considered that I should be going after Jeod, rather than defending him as I have done?

I think this argumentation between Jeod and Voe is providing a nice distraction for scum to sit back and watch as this continues to go nowhere. Killing You and Fraydo have been sitting back pretty spectacularly this round. What do you two make of all this?