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The only "real" argument FRAYDO has against me is my no lynch vote. Nothing else, and he's so sure. I was a bit suspicious of CK, FRAYDO, and KY before, but now I have a solid reason to eye FRAYDO. Mulling over FRAYDO's post, I realize that in a MYLO situation, the scum won't have anything to lose by pushing very hard to result in a town lynch, because a mislynch scum implication won't matter, as they will have won. You know, FRAYDO, if a lack of "revenge voting" was a valid argument to use here, have you considered that I should be going after Jeod, rather than defending him as I have done?

I think this argumentation between Jeod and Voe is providing a nice distraction for scum to sit back and watch as this continues to go nowhere. Killing You and Fraydo have been sitting back pretty spectacularly this round. What do you two make of all this?

While an interesting idea, I don't think it would produce a result much different than what we have now. Certain maps won't be played during a scheduled game night. Mods can still !setnextmap to whatever the players desire.

I think it would be really difficult to survive long enough to gather all the orbs in a live match.

Just showing this cause I don't wanna spoil the rest.

I found all three and it took me to this room. Sorry for ugly helicopter shadow lol. And now, for the next mystery!

If the Allies have a spy with a makeup kit, he'll show up as town to a cop, which would honestly bone the cop role. I hope this isn't the case, whoever that copper is. That said, I'd like to reaffirm my super strong hunch that Jeod is town, and so we shouldn't vote for him.

Well, we certainly have the ability to read each other's posts. Right now I'm very curious about Nodlied and CK. Anything to say for yourselves? Anything to report from the night?

The clarification is good enough for me, for now. I want to go off real data. ##unvote Jeod, difference between vigilante and serial killer? Is the killer sided with the mafia team, and a vigilante on his own as 3P?

Ouch, that was rough. If you are a cop this round, don't be so quick to roleclaim as Voe is asking you to do. The scum targeted Mojoman who all but claimed PR yesterday, and was nightkilled ASAP. A cop roleclaim at this point would be suicide for the evening. Our doctor is dead, so the cop can't be saved. Up until this point, I've been townreading Voe. But today I'm not so sure. A vote against Jeod seems like a revenge vote, and the fact he wants a cop to come out and declare his findings, right after the doctor died following a soft roleclaim, doesn't sit right with me. I'm not 100% sold on this, but no other leads right now. The scum went after Mojoman, who softclaimed PR, and Cat5, who is excellent at analysis. ##vote Voe This game looks dangerous for the Soviets. Right now I am reading Jeod as town. The near hammer yesterday was probably coincidence tied with his go-get-em personality. And no, we're not on a scumteam together.

I have yet to hear a compelling reason that voting no lynch on D1 is so terrible. Is it just hard to explain, or...? Verti seemed genuine to me later in the day so I pulled my vote off him. Sure enough, we had a mislynch. I hope it's worth the info gained from it... Cat5, I was referring to the JeodPillBox game, where I was told by folks (maybe even you) during the game that Jeod plays the same way when town or scum. Do you really think I'd make it that obvious if I was leaking scumdoc material? Don't be fishin' for stuff that's not there.

Would it be possible to make that zone the same as inside the War Factories, where the vehicles spawn, and when they spawn anything in that spot is instantly destroyed? That's the way it used to be, but too many friendlies purchased over premade units waiting to be entered and cleared.

Sorry, been away a good portion of today. Tomorrow may be similar, so I will cast a stand-in vote now in case I'm not around during hammer. In all my [very few] games of playing this, I've never seen a D1 lynch go successfully in favor of town. To that end I'm doing a ##vote no lynch Also, am I the only person who read this as it was written?

I unvoted for your sake but then KY stepped in.

I'm with Nodlied here. Let's calm down. Verti if you're really town, don't suicide. Try to use your role to help your team.

I'm waiting for the massive Cat5 analysis.

Let's ask ourselves, what classic roles can kill themselves? Suicide flamer? Demolition truck? ??? Yeah well. He did flip town in the end.

Oh I get it. I think I just read it wrong.

I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt for now, Verti, but can you explain the flip flopping? Like, your opinion on Jeod and myself 180'd in less than 30 minutes. ##unvote

Flip flopping? I've been leaving my vote on you to see if we can squeeze more info out of you, and that's definitely what's happening.

And on the flip-side, the scum read your post here and leave Jeod alive, and don't frame him tomorrow, so tomorrow we end up mis-lynching him.

To be fair, I called Jeod out on his self-interest last game, but I pushed really hard on it only because he had nailed me as scum, and making him the target instead of myself was in my best interest. His being third party/scum because he's leading the town is basically a meta argument. I haven't seen how Jeod plays as town yet, but I've been told it's the same as how he plays when he's a baddie. This is why it'll be important to investigate him. Of course, my saying all this could also prompt scum to kill him during the night if he is town, so yeah there's that.

Seeing Verti's posts I still agree with this. Unless the cop role that cleared you was known. He'd be more valuable than you, unless you also had a power role.

Twas just an observation. Take it for how you will.

Just my $.02, but I think you're more likely to be investigated tonight. There's huge meta reason for it, but clearing you would go a very long way towards catching scum, as you seem to have a knack for that when you are town [third party ].