Games [Game Over] The July Crisis Mafia

[VERTi60]

If you want to do it do it when Nodlied is around so we have fast result

[Jeod]

Thing is, if we're to believe Mojoman's claims, then FRAYDO is not the assassin we're looking for, nor is he the thief we're looking for.

[Retaliation]

Just now, Jeod said:

Thing is, if we're to believe Mojoman's claims, then FRAYDO is not the assassin we're looking for, nor is he the thief we're looking for.

How do we know he's not the assassin? 

[Category5]

We don't know that. This assassin might be incapable of doing kills right now. Effectively waiting in a vanilla state, which all of Mojoman, Retal, and VERTi60 have also claimed.

[Category5]

I think it makes more sense that FRAYDO IS the assassin, because we didn't get his name upon investigation.

[Jeod]

Just now, Retaliation said:

How do we know he's not the assassin? 

He would have had evidence pointing to the fact. The evidence FRAYDO had in his possession can easily be that of a researcher or a dormant scum. It didn't look like assassin evidence to me.

[Category5]

Black Hand doesn't sound like Assassin to you?

[Jeod]

It does, although they weren't directly linked. It's the name of the evidence that makes me suspect FRAYDO less for assassin. One would expect a gun or a grenade, no?

[Category5]

Not if it seems like the Task Force is the side being armed with weapons. Which it does, if we beilieve that Mojoman has a Colt.

[Jeod]

I'm still not interested in tossing this at FRAYDO. He might be the assassin (I think odds are slim), but we know he is not the active thief.

[Jeod]

What I'm getting at is that I think we have better odds of hitting the assassin or thief (unless they're one and the same) outside of FRAYDO.

[Category5]

We don't even really know if the thief is scum. Might just be someone who doesn't trust me. And do we know if we recover items or evidence from people who are killed?

We pretty much know FRAYDO is scum.

[Jeod]

1 minute ago, Category 5 Hurricane said:

We don't even really know if the thief is scum. Might just be someone who doesn't trust me. And do we know if we recover items or evidence from people who are killed?

We pretty much know FRAYDO is scum.

Well, we don't even know for sure if you're town or task force, which is another reason I'm taking things nice and slow for the moment.

[FRAYDO]

1 minute ago, Category 5 Hurricane said:

And do we know if we recover items or evidence from people who are killed?

In a lynch, the player dies and his body is transferred to the morgue, items and evidence included. I would assume the case is true for day kills.

[Retaliation]

I don't think evidence is going to have much to do with the player's role.

In anycase we have a wonderful opportunity to basically confirm if someone is scum if we can catch them with the spyglass.

1 minute ago, Category 5 Hurricane said:

We don't even really know if the thief is scum. Might just be someone who doesn't trust me. And do we know if we recover items or evidence from people who are killed?

We pretty much know FRAYDO is scum.

I think someone being a thief is a good counterbalance to the number of town players with (item based) abilities. 

[VERTi60]

Hmm interesting, it went from "Category 5 not wanting to kill Fraydo" to "Jeod holding back now" and "Cat5 wanting to kill Fraydo".

[Category5]

Right, which is why I wouldn't be particularly bothered if I was investigated today, especially now that I've lost my item and can't do anything otherwise.

That said, I started in the same boat as Retaliation. If investigated, I appear as Suspicious, and I lose my item. Given his idential situation and how he seems to be thinking the same way I am at the same time I am, I feel like he's town.

[Jeod]

##Grenade Chaos_Knight

*plugs ears*

[Category5]

1 minute ago, VERTi60 said:

Hmm interesting, it went from "Category 5 not wanting to kill Fraydo" to "Jeod holding back now" and "Cat5 wanting to kill Fraydo".

No, I still don't want to kill anybody. But if we do, I want the target to be FRAYDO.

I'm getting really irritated on how much of the discussion is flying over your head. Is this intentional?

[VERTi60]

7 minutes ago, Category 5 Hurricane said:

Not if it seems like the Task Force is the side being armed with weapons. Which it does, if we beilieve that Mojoman has a Colt.

I don't have a weapon nor any item.

 

6 minutes ago, Jeod said:

I'm still not interested in tossing this at FRAYDO. He might be the assassin (I think odds are slim), but we know he is not the active thief.

Is it better not to use it on someone we are almost certain of being scum rather than risking losing the Grenade and opportunity?

[Nodlied]

1 minute ago, FRAYDO said:

In a lynch, the player dies and his body is transferred to the morgue, items and evidence included. I would assume the case is true for day kills.

I think it is fair for me to step in on this for a moment as I consider it to be vital information on the game.

If a player dies by whatever means necessary (lynch, nightkill, chronosphere, choking on a baguette or whatever you may assume is in the game), all items and evidence will be confiscated and moved to the vault. The body will go to the morgue and his/her/apache information will become public later.

[Category5]

Chaos_Knight says: "WTF!" BOOOOOM!

Jeod says:  "MUWAHAHAHAHA"

[Nodlied]

1 minute ago, Jeod said:

##Grenade Chaos_Knight

*plugs ears*

Halt people. It's time to resolve an action!

[Jeod]

1 minute ago, Nodlied said:

Halt people. It's time to resolve an action!

Prediction:

It's only 25% chance to kill, after all.

[VERTi60]

3 minutes ago, Category 5 Hurricane said:

I'm getting really irritated on how much of the discussion is flying over your head. Is this intentional?

Yes I am annoying

[VERTi60]

I don't understand why you hit someone we are not sure about being scum though, when we have Fraydo confirmed.

[FRAYDO]

+1 for Wind Waker reference

[VERTi60]

Well let's hope he's the thief.

[Retaliation]

It's been 8 minutes I think he ded.

[VERTi60]

He's dead Jim.