Sunflower Posted October 4, 2018 Report Posted October 4, 2018 He was pretty obviously scum. The only reason why I didn't push harder was because I was trying to act clueless so scum might not think I was the cop. 0 Quote
OrangeP47 Posted October 4, 2018 Report Posted October 4, 2018 1 minute ago, Shade939 said: Why is that obvious? Because if he did self-target, the kill wouldn't have worked... 0 Quote
Shade939 Posted October 4, 2018 Report Posted October 4, 2018 ##Unvote Shade939 Actually, why are you so insistent that doctor didn't' self target Orange? 0 Quote
Shade939 Posted October 4, 2018 Report Posted October 4, 2018 Just now, OrangeP47 said: Because if he did self-target, the kill wouldn't have worked... I wonder if Scum had any obvious ability that would let them get around that. 0 Quote
Killing_You Posted October 4, 2018 Author Report Posted October 4, 2018 Just now, Shade939 said: ##Unvote Shade939 Vote counted. CVC: OrangeP47 voted nobody Nodlied voted Shade939 Shade939 voted nobody TheIrishMan voted nobody Sunflower voted nobody Shade939 has the majority (1 vote). Time Left: 24h 25m 0 Quote
OrangeP47 Posted October 4, 2018 Report Posted October 4, 2018 1 minute ago, Shade939 said: ##Unvote Shade939 Actually, why are you so insistent that doctor didn't' self target Orange? This is a basics game. It's highly unlikely there's an unstoppable kill. Cat 5 was killed, therefore he didn't self target. This is all barring the fact that it really *doesn't matter* anyway. It's all just a red herring to distract from real issues. 0 Quote
TheIrishman Posted October 4, 2018 Report Posted October 4, 2018 If we lynch Shade and he actually does flip Town, I think Sunflower should cop Orange (being the only one not investigated yet). As for Nodlied, anyone would work (better nobody can anticipate it). Because he's dead, Shade. It could be couple hours from now but I think I would prefer an early hammer (I know what that sounds like), but I feel like we're not going to move much from this point. (Also, I work all weekend so if the game does end now, I'll start my sign-up and hopefully get a basic idea of it set up while I'm still free). 0 Quote
TheIrishman Posted October 4, 2018 Report Posted October 4, 2018 Or...is it rude to start a sign-up while a game is still going? 0 Quote
Shade939 Posted October 4, 2018 Report Posted October 4, 2018 Just now, TheIrishman said: Or...is it rude to start a sign-up while a game is still going? To be fair, I don't think we have any protective roles in games, so it should end tomorrow regardless of who scum is. 0 Quote
OrangeP47 Posted October 4, 2018 Report Posted October 4, 2018 I consider it kind of rude, but it wouldn't be the first time Also just because I submitted my ideas doesn't mean to rush you. I just wanted them written down so I don't forget them. 0 Quote
Shade939 Posted October 4, 2018 Report Posted October 4, 2018 3 minutes ago, TheIrishman said: If we lynch Shade and he actually does flip Town, I think Sunflower should cop Orange (being the only one not investigated yet). As for Nodlied, anyone would work (better nobody can anticipate it). Because he's dead, Shade. It could be couple hours from now but I think I would prefer an early hammer (I know what that sounds like), but I feel like we're not going to move much from this point. (Also, I work all weekend so if the game does end now, I'll start my sign-up and hopefully get a basic idea of it set up while I'm still free). ##Vote Shade939 Honestly, it's still probably too overly complicated to proceed without getting myself cleared first. 0 Quote
Killing_You Posted October 4, 2018 Author Report Posted October 4, 2018 Just now, Shade939 said: ##Vote Shade939 Vote counted. CVC: OrangeP47 voted nobody Nodlied voted Shade939 Shade939 voted Shade939 TheIrishMan voted nobody Sunflower voted nobody Shade939 has the majority (2 votes). WARNING! 1 more vote for Shade939 will cause a HAMMER! Time Left: 24h 15m 0 Quote
Killing_You Posted October 4, 2018 Author Report Posted October 4, 2018 1 minute ago, Sunflower said: ##vote Shade Hammer time. Post-game inc. 0 Quote
OrangeP47 Posted October 4, 2018 Report Posted October 4, 2018 Just now, Killing_You said: Hammer time. Post-game inc. We got him! 0 Quote
Shade939 Posted October 4, 2018 Report Posted October 4, 2018 (edited) Here's the quick summary. Edited October 4, 2018 by Shade939 1 Quote
TheIrishman Posted October 4, 2018 Report Posted October 4, 2018 It's alright, Orange, you weren't the first person to submit your character. Woot! I'm feeling good! 2 for 2! *puts on an MVP medal* 0 Quote
Shade939 Posted October 4, 2018 Report Posted October 4, 2018 Just now, TheIrishman said: It's alright, Orange, you weren't the first person to submit your character. Woot! I'm feeling good! 2 for 2! *puts on an MVP medal* Don't get too full of yourself. 0 Quote
Sunflower Posted October 4, 2018 Report Posted October 4, 2018 8 minutes ago, Shade939 said: ##Vote Shade939 Honestly, it's still probably too overly complicated to proceed without getting myself cleared first. So complicated that it's... 0 Quote
Shade939 Posted October 4, 2018 Report Posted October 4, 2018 Just now, Sunflower said: So complicated that it's... Trying to get someone other than me lynched. 0 Quote
Killing_You Posted October 4, 2018 Author Report Posted October 4, 2018 GAME OVERNot even going to do anything special here. Shade was Wilson Fisk (Mafia Ninja). GM Doc: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1fb4D8uBCIaGrPHFPvvNXe03_WGQEJsxpFKVrEclE6XM/edit?usp=sharing Scum Doc: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1OQxosGyMHdCzY_LUAwj88aLdQsFDXUyCpFfgLYKJF7E/edit?usp=sharing Game Over Doc: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1B8yhGk7AoimmEkdOvIb5ioDgAHiairLLqDG9jcSXA-E/edit?usp=sharing I can't bring myself to do anything other than offer my sincerest apologies. I've clearly learned nothing from Secret Invasion, and once again crafted a situation that gave scum absolutely zero chance of winning. I think it's safe to say that, after running the two worst Mafia games on the site, I shouldn't run any more games. And won't. I hope that, at least, you guys can accept my apology enough to tolerate me staying as a player. You guys are great, and I'm sorry for this entire shitshow. I should've shut it down when the flaws were pointed out Night 1. 0 Quote
OrangeP47 Posted October 4, 2018 Report Posted October 4, 2018 Just now, Killing_You said: GAME OVERNot even going to do anything special here. Shade was Wilson Fisk (Mafia Ninja). GM Doc: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1fb4D8uBCIaGrPHFPvvNXe03_WGQEJsxpFKVrEclE6XM/edit?usp=sharing Scum Doc: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1OQxosGyMHdCzY_LUAwj88aLdQsFDXUyCpFfgLYKJF7E/edit?usp=sharing Game Over Doc: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1B8yhGk7AoimmEkdOvIb5ioDgAHiairLLqDG9jcSXA-E/edit?usp=sharing I can't bring myself to do anything other than offer my sincerest apologies. I've clearly learned nothing from Secret Invasion, and once again crafted a situation that gave scum absolutely zero chance of winning. I think it's safe to say that, after running the two worst Mafia games on the site, I shouldn't run any more games. And won't. I hope that, at least, you guys can accept my apology enough to tolerate me staying as a player. You guys are great, and I'm sorry for this entire shitshow. I should've shut it down when the flaws were pointed out Night 1. It's not your fault. It's a design flaw other people have been doing too lately, and you can only learn from what's been presented. 0 Quote
Shade939 Posted October 4, 2018 Report Posted October 4, 2018 Just now, OrangeP47 said: It's not your fault. It's a design flaw other people have been doing too lately, and you can only learn from what's been presented. Yeah, and to be fair this would have been a much different day if I had killed Sunflower instead. 0 Quote
Sunflower Posted October 4, 2018 Report Posted October 4, 2018 Hey KY I don't know what you mean. The reason they lost is because Jeod did a really risky thing and got caught redhanded. If I had investigated Snipe last night, things wouldn't have been so straightforward today. 0 Quote
OrangeP47 Posted October 4, 2018 Report Posted October 4, 2018 Just now, Shade939 said: Yeah, and to be fair this would have been a much different day if I had killed Sunflower instead. Yeah, did you target ILTS thinking he was JJ? If so, that slip might have been the pivitol moment of the game. 0 Quote
TheIrishman Posted October 4, 2018 Report Posted October 4, 2018 I mean, catching Jeod was pretty damn lucky since it was his Drunk claim that first aroused my suspicions along with him coming out the gate saying he roleblocked Orange. It's okay, KY. Really, if I didn't hammer Jeod so hard or Jeod didn't claim Orange's character, Scum still had a decent chance of winning. All they needed to do was kill Nodlied and Sunflower because us Vanilla's would've been easy to pin a crime on. 0 Quote
OrangeP47 Posted October 4, 2018 Report Posted October 4, 2018 Yeah, scum could have won, but the counter claim was fatal. TBH from their perspective I don't know if I'd expect Malcom to be in the game so it might have been a good guess. 0 Quote
Shade939 Posted October 4, 2018 Report Posted October 4, 2018 Just now, TheIrishman said: I mean, catching Jeod was pretty damn lucky since it was his Drunk claim that first aroused my suspicions along with him coming out the gate saying he roleblocked Orange. It's okay, KY. Really, if I didn't hammer Jeod so hard or Jeod didn't claim Orange's character, Scum still had a decent chance of winning. All they needed to do was kill Nodlied and Sunflower because us Vanilla's would've been easy to pin a crime on. Had to get Sunflower since she was the Cop though to stand a good chance of winning, that would also let me avoid NKing the next night, so game would end on a NK instead of during the day phase, and there would be more players to lynch. 0 Quote
Killing_You Posted October 4, 2018 Author Report Posted October 4, 2018 Just now, Sunflower said: Hey KY I don't know what you mean. The reason they lost is because Jeod did a really risky thing and got caught redhanded. If I had investigated Snipe last night, things wouldn't have been so straightforward today. From what I can see, it was a combination of notifications, flavor, and limiting Shade's ability. All of these seemed to severely hamper scum. 4 minutes ago, OrangeP47 said: It's not your fault. It's a design flaw other people have been doing too lately, and you can only learn from what's been presented. Yeah but it's only in my games that it's been a major flaw. To me, the connecting thread is obvious. 0 Quote
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