Louis Posted July 21, 2019 Report Share Posted July 21, 2019 1 minute ago, OrangeP47 said: Which is actually a pretty good long term strategy for playing scum if he's doing it on purpose Well, would you vote for him today? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeP47 Posted July 21, 2019 Report Share Posted July 21, 2019 2 minutes ago, Louis said: Okay well, what are your thoughts on other Lords? Ranked order. Loyalist Jeod Sunflower Null (Loyalist) (This category is almost all tied really rather than ranked) PrettyReckless (Needs to do more, seriously) Irish Voe Louis Rebel Retal Shade 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeP47 Posted July 21, 2019 Report Share Posted July 21, 2019 2 minutes ago, Louis said: Well, would you vote for him today? Of course. I probably could go ahead and vote for him, though I'm generally pretty judicious with my vote. I might after lunch here in an hour or so to see if I have any more thoughts fueled by caffeine. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louis Posted July 21, 2019 Report Share Posted July 21, 2019 Hmmmm, okay, trusting your judgement here 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shade939 Posted July 21, 2019 Report Share Posted July 21, 2019 38 minutes ago, OrangeP47 said: I do suspect Shade. I don't think he was rebel yesterday, but he may have been the conversion target. His posting today (this phase) has been... poor. He's been too focused on rubeci, and while it's true things with rubeci might not be great, Shade could be using it as a distraction from the rebels, and rubeci has some good points against Shade. I still suspect Retal, but maybe a little less than yesterday. And you appear to be ignoring the fact that Rubeci is an independent player with unknown actions and goals. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeP47 Posted July 21, 2019 Report Share Posted July 21, 2019 1 minute ago, Shade939 said: And you appear to be ignoring the fact that Rubeci is an independent player with unknown actions and goals. Ad hominem 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shade939 Posted July 21, 2019 Report Share Posted July 21, 2019 2 minutes ago, OrangeP47 said: Ad hominem Your argument is I'm being overly focused on the independent who is actively prevented from allying with anyone else in game, and should be capable of attacking anyone in game as an independent? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeP47 Posted July 21, 2019 Report Share Posted July 21, 2019 Just now, Shade939 said: Your argument is I'm being overly focused on the independent who is actively prevented from allying with anyone else in game, and should be capable of attacking anyone in game as an independent? TBH he still might be able to ally. But really, I don't think there's anything we can do about him at this juncture, so he's just a distraction. One mafia truism is that finding mafia comes before finding 3p, unless it's a cult, and guess who has the cult like mechanics, rebels 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shade939 Posted July 21, 2019 Report Share Posted July 21, 2019 1 minute ago, OrangeP47 said: TBH he still might be able to ally. But really, I don't think there's anything we can do about him at this juncture, so he's just a distraction. One mafia truism is that finding mafia comes before finding 3p, unless it's a cult, and guess who has the cult like mechanics, rebels Are you certain? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeP47 Posted July 21, 2019 Report Share Posted July 21, 2019 1 minute ago, Shade939 said: Are you certain? About which part? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeod Posted July 21, 2019 Report Share Posted July 21, 2019 I haven’t checked into sunflower yet, actually. Why’s she on your loyal list? You clearly found a reason to townread her. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeP47 Posted July 21, 2019 Report Share Posted July 21, 2019 1 minute ago, Jeod said: I haven’t checked into sunflower yet, actually. Why’s she on your loyal list? You clearly found a reason to townread her. She's been putting forth a lot of effort and generally has been being helpful. The most important part of such a read is as always "asking good questions". I'd actually read Louis higher for the same reason, really, if she wasn't so aggro on me probably. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeod Posted July 21, 2019 Report Share Posted July 21, 2019 36 minutes ago, OrangeP47 said: She's been putting forth a lot of effort and generally has been being helpful. The most important part of such a read is as always "asking good questions". I'd actually read Louis higher for the same reason, really, if she wasn't so aggro on me probably. I do have a tendency to scumread before townreading, so now that it's at my attention, I agree on Sunflower. I'm inclined to agree with Louis as well--especially since I sent you an alliance proposal and you didn't accept it. Clearly someone was more important. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeod Posted July 21, 2019 Report Share Posted July 21, 2019 Edit: Meaning I disagree with your assessment of Louis. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shade939 Posted July 21, 2019 Report Share Posted July 21, 2019 56 minutes ago, OrangeP47 said: About which part? I'd go with literally everything you said. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeP47 Posted July 21, 2019 Report Share Posted July 21, 2019 21 minutes ago, Jeod said: Edit: Meaning I disagree with your assessment of Louis. I mean, I have her as null 13 minutes ago, Shade939 said: I'd go with literally everything you said. I don't know if he can ally or not, but I'd say greater than 50% chance that he can, if not at present time, some time in the future. As for the rest, that's general mafia theory, don't take it up with me, take it up with everyone. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shade939 Posted July 21, 2019 Report Share Posted July 21, 2019 Also, why is everyone trying to refer to players in terms of Town and mafia? The only way we'd have a Town and Mafia in this game would be if players couldn't largely choose their alignments and the game ended once one of those sides won. Alignments and factions are based almost entirely on a personal players preference, for an example the Royals actually have the choice to overthrow the king by voting him up, so what part of that sounds like Town? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shade939 Posted July 21, 2019 Report Share Posted July 21, 2019 Which on that note, I'm pretty certain Jeod actually has a good grasp of the alignment mechanics based on what he's done so far. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeP47 Posted July 21, 2019 Report Share Posted July 21, 2019 5 minutes ago, Shade939 said: Also, why is everyone trying to refer to players in terms of Town and mafia? The only way we'd have a Town and Mafia in this game would be if players couldn't largely choose their alignments and the game ended once one of those sides won. Alignments and factions are based almost entirely on a personal players preference, for an example the Royals actually have the choice to overthrow the king by voting him up, so what part of that sounds like Town? I've been pretty consistently calling people royalist and rebel 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shade939 Posted July 21, 2019 Report Share Posted July 21, 2019 4 minutes ago, OrangeP47 said: I've been pretty consistently calling people royalist and rebel For how long? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeP47 Posted July 21, 2019 Report Share Posted July 21, 2019 3 minutes ago, Shade939 said: For how long? The entire game 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeod Posted July 21, 2019 Report Share Posted July 21, 2019 When I refer to town and scum I’m referring to the current kingdom cycle. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeP47 Posted July 21, 2019 Report Share Posted July 21, 2019 Well, it's after lunch, and my opinion hasn't changed. ##vote Shade 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shade939 Posted July 21, 2019 Report Share Posted July 21, 2019 2 minutes ago, OrangeP47 said: Well, it's after lunch, and my opinion hasn't changed. ##vote Shade Strike me down and you'll only be hurting yourself. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeP47 Posted July 21, 2019 Report Share Posted July 21, 2019 Just now, Shade939 said: Strike me down and you'll only be hurting yourself. AtE is one of the lowest forms of argument. In a game like this, that's true for more reasons than usual. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunflower Posted July 21, 2019 Report Share Posted July 21, 2019 1 hour ago, Shade939 said: Also, why is everyone trying to refer to players in terms of Town and mafia? The only way we'd have a Town and Mafia in this game would be if players couldn't largely choose their alignments and the game ended once one of those sides won. Alignments and factions are based almost entirely on a personal players preference, for an example the Royals actually have the choice to overthrow the king by voting him up, so what part of that sounds like Town? It might have something to do with Verti saying that royal = town and rebel = mafia on the first page. I would have thought with Jeod picking your religion, you'd be more supportive of him because the longer he stays king, the longer you get to rake in the faith points. But the way you've been talking, you wouldn't bat an eyelash if he got deposed tomorrow. Kinda makes me wonder if you're not really a different religion. Or maybe you're salty because the Great Sept only benefits loyal houses and you aren't one of them? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeod Posted July 21, 2019 Report Share Posted July 21, 2019 If Shade ever wants the Heart Tree to be built he'll deliver results with his scouting ability. I'm far more concerned with Orange, who accepted an alliance proposal for someone other than the king. What's the motive behind that decision? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeP47 Posted July 21, 2019 Report Share Posted July 21, 2019 2 minutes ago, Jeod said: If Shade ever wants the Heart Tree to be built he'll deliver results with his scouting ability. I'm far more concerned with Orange, who accepted an alliance proposal for someone other than the king. What's the motive behind that decision? We can already share resources (troops) and you're an open book. Alliancing someone else gives me info on someone else. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeod Posted July 21, 2019 Report Share Posted July 21, 2019 2 minutes ago, OrangeP47 said: We can already share resources (troops) and you're an open book. Alliancing someone else gives me info on someone else. Proving your own trustworthiness ought to be a priority. I may be an open book but you are not. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeP47 Posted July 21, 2019 Report Share Posted July 21, 2019 Just now, Jeod said: Proving your own trustworthiness ought to be a priority. I may be an open book but you are not. Another mafia truism is that good town (royalist) shouldn't care about their own appearance. I was trusting you to keep a level head, as you seemed to be doing a better job of that than usual. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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