Louis Posted July 30, 2020 Report Share Posted July 30, 2020 2 hours ago, iLikeToSnipe said: Then if you use it on me you learn nothing, I only have the gummies you passed to me. Even if you don't believe me and think I have this scatter item, there's still a 50/50 chance you learn nothing. It's hard between iLTS and Cat5, I don't even know if scatter really is an item I'm going off of what people say here. But if I had to choose ##Web shot Cat5 This way we can check Cat5 and if iLTS eats the gummies the next night it'll clear them 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louis Posted July 30, 2020 Report Share Posted July 30, 2020 @Shade939 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FRAYDO Posted July 30, 2020 Report Share Posted July 30, 2020 Calling out Cat5's bluff are you? He did claim Scatter was used on him again. If we find no item, then he should be clear given that his ability use should be the Mason action he took on me. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shade939 Posted July 30, 2020 Author Report Share Posted July 30, 2020 Louis quickly fires a web at Category 5 Hurricane, only to have the action fail. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iLikeToSnipe Posted July 30, 2020 Report Share Posted July 30, 2020 12 minutes ago, Shade939 said: Louis quickly fires a web at Category 5 Hurricane, only to have the action fail. @Louis Do you know if that means he had nothing or something blocked your action? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iLikeToSnipe Posted July 30, 2020 Report Share Posted July 30, 2020 My interpretation of it is that the action itself failed, not "nothing was stolen". But that could just be GM differences. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shade939 Posted July 30, 2020 Author Report Share Posted July 30, 2020 Just now, iLikeToSnipe said: My interpretation of it is that the action itself failed, not "nothing was stolen". But that could just be GM differences. I can clarify a bit since it's a day action. The action did happen, but something resulted in it not doing anything. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louis Posted July 30, 2020 Report Share Posted July 30, 2020 What's weird is that anytime I try to do something to Cat5 nothing works even if it's passing him an item 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shade939 Posted July 30, 2020 Author Report Share Posted July 30, 2020 25 minutes ago, Shade939 said: I can clarify a bit since it's a day action. The action did happen, but something resulted in it not doing anything. And to be even more specific, Louis did not get an item from using her action, causing the action to fail to do anything. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retaliation Posted July 30, 2020 Report Share Posted July 30, 2020 *Quietly adds example to "All Actions That Fail Are Identical" theory* 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeod Posted July 30, 2020 Report Share Posted July 30, 2020 So Cat5 has no items and spent the night doing a masonry. I'd say that probably clears him. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retaliation Posted July 30, 2020 Report Share Posted July 30, 2020 Just now, Jeod said: So Cat5 has no items and spent the night doing a masonry. I'd say that probably clears him. How?! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iLikeToSnipe Posted July 30, 2020 Report Share Posted July 30, 2020 1 minute ago, Retaliation said: How?! I'm just about ready to declare a Jeod/Cat5 scum team. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shade939 Posted July 30, 2020 Author Report Share Posted July 30, 2020 PLAYER VOTE iLikeToSnipe Category 5 iLikeToSnipe Category 5 Jeod iLikeToSnipe Retaliation Category 5 FRAYDO Louis Category 5 Hurricane LEAD Category 5 24 Hours till Hammer. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeod Posted July 30, 2020 Report Share Posted July 30, 2020 14 minutes ago, Shade939 said: And to be even more specific, Louis did not get an item from using her action, causing the action to fail to do anything. 2 minutes ago, Retaliation said: How?! I'm interpreting this as "he has no items". If he masoned, he couldn't have done the NK unless @Shade939 will clarify whether he allows NK + role action from scum in one night. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeod Posted July 30, 2020 Report Share Posted July 30, 2020 1 minute ago, iLikeToSnipe said: I'm just about ready to declare a Jeod/Cat5 scum team. I asked Louis to web you, buddy. I then laid out the scenario for webbing Cat5. There's not gonna be three scum and one third party here. We've got one scum to go. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iLikeToSnipe Posted July 30, 2020 Report Share Posted July 30, 2020 Just now, Jeod said: I'm interpreting this as "he has no items". If he masoned, he couldn't have done the NK unless @Shade939 will clarify whether he allows NK + role action from scum in one night. Earth to Jeod, scum can use an action and perform an NK in this game. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeod Posted July 30, 2020 Report Share Posted July 30, 2020 Just now, iLikeToSnipe said: Earth to Jeod, scum can use an action and perform an NK in this game. Only if you assume KY did the NK. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iLikeToSnipe Posted July 30, 2020 Report Share Posted July 30, 2020 Just now, Jeod said: I asked Louis to web you, buddy. I then laid out the scenario for webbing Cat5. There's not gonna be three scum and one third party here. We've got one scum to go. That is my bad, should have added an "/s" there... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retaliation Posted July 30, 2020 Report Share Posted July 30, 2020 1 minute ago, Jeod said: I'm interpreting this as "he has no items". If he masoned, he couldn't have done the NK unless @Shade939 will clarify whether he allows NK + role action from scum in one night. I'm 99% positive NK + role action is a thing this game, especially after the KY debacle. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iLikeToSnipe Posted July 30, 2020 Report Share Posted July 30, 2020 Just now, Jeod said: Only if you assume KY did the NK. Good thing I know he did. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shade939 Posted July 30, 2020 Author Report Share Posted July 30, 2020 Just now, Jeod said: I'm interpreting this as "he has no items". If he masoned, he couldn't have done the NK unless @Shade939 will clarify whether he allows NK + role action from scum in one night. Since someone asked. Yes, players are allowed to perform the NK in addition to other actions. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeod Posted July 30, 2020 Report Share Posted July 30, 2020 Just now, Retaliation said: I'm 99% positive NK + role action is a thing this game, especially after the KY debacle. That's why I'd like Shade to clarify how he does his mechanics. If he allows NK + role action from one scum in a single night, then it opens up more options. However if he only allows scum to choose between NK or role action in a single night, then it's another story. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeod Posted July 30, 2020 Report Share Posted July 30, 2020 2 minutes ago, iLikeToSnipe said: Good thing I know he did. From your perspective. My going theory is that you did the NK. 1 minute ago, Shade939 said: Since someone asked. Yes, players are allowed to perform the NK in addition to other actions. Thanks. So KY could still have done the NK after all. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeod Posted July 30, 2020 Report Share Posted July 30, 2020 Option A: KY performed the nightkill, and iLTS was the target Option B: KY did a scan on Orange and passed an item to iLTS, and iLTS did the nightkill (where the target was either Cat5 or myself) This is how I see it now. I'm having a hard time making room for Retaliation or Louis being scum. Louis because she's been pro-town the entire game and Retaliation because there's no logical reason he should be scum. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retaliation Posted July 30, 2020 Report Share Posted July 30, 2020 3 minutes ago, Jeod said: That's why I'd like Shade to clarify how he does his mechanics. If he allows NK + role action from one scum in a single night, then it opens up more options. However if he only allows scum to choose between NK or role action in a single night, then it's another story. Yeah, I just didn't realize that was an option question. I know from Halloween mafia (I think...) that he's pretty big on minimizing the ability for town to figure out the game based on action reports. I feel like he's done a pretty good job of it this game. 1 minute ago, Jeod said: Option A: KY performed the nightkill, and iLTS was the target Option B: KY did a scan on Orange and passed an item to iLTS, and iLTS did the nightkill (where the target was either Cat5 or myself) This is how I see it now. I'm having a hard time making room for Retaliation or Louis being scum. Louis because she's been pro-town the entire game and Retaliation because there's no logical reason he should be scum. How did Sunflower fail to block iLTS then? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retaliation Posted July 30, 2020 Report Share Posted July 30, 2020 *Open question. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeod Posted July 30, 2020 Report Share Posted July 30, 2020 Just now, Retaliation said: How did Sunflower fail to block iLTS then? KY passed the Scatter item/ability/thing on to iLTS n1. Cat5's had it since n2. That's the way it works when it comes to my Option B, anyway. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeod Posted July 30, 2020 Report Share Posted July 30, 2020 Maybe the item has two modes: affect self and affect target, and it defaults to affect self. *shrug* 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeod Posted July 30, 2020 Report Share Posted July 30, 2020 Anyway, with Shade's clarification we now know Cat5 is not cleared. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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