[GAME OVER- ATREIDES VICTORY] Battle for Dune Mafia 1

[Shade939]

  On 5/10/2022 at 11:15 PM, Category 5 Hurricane said:

Assuming Louis's role claim is real, TheIrishman was jailed. That does not make him town. Actually it makes him suspect #1.

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Instead of Jeod?

[Category 5 Hurricane]

I don't know what the hell is going on with Jeod. I think he's suspect #2, because what he is saying does not match up.

[Shade939]

Also, I'd assume that mafia didn't jail their own teammate?

[Jeod]

I sat in a cell overnight. Whether it means jailed or blocked via visiting my target is the unknown. If it’s the former then something funky is going on with the bus driver claim. If it’s the latter then shade isn’t vanilla.

[Shade939]

  On 5/10/2022 at 11:18 PM, Shade939 said:

Also, I'd assume that mafia didn't jail their own teammate?

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  On 5/10/2022 at 11:20 PM, Jeod said:

I sat in a cell overnight. Whether it means jailed or blocked via visiting my target is the unknown. If it’s the former then something funky is going on with the bus driver claim. If it’s the latter then shade isn’t vanilla.

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Perhaps I stand corrected?

[Jeod]

@ Category 5 Hurricane  Who we’re your bus targets again?

[Jeod]

Never mind it was me and Irish. So in the end I still ended up visiting shade.

[Category 5 Hurricane]

Wanna tell me how you worked that out?

[Shade939]

  On 5/10/2022 at 11:35 PM, Category 5 Hurricane said:

Wanna tell me how you worked that out?

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Is Scum Doc an appropriate answer?

[Category 5 Hurricane]

  On 5/10/2022 at 11:36 PM, Shade939 said:

Is Scum Doc an appropriate answer?

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Absolutely could be.

[Jeod]

  On 5/10/2022 at 11:35 PM, Category 5 Hurricane said:

Wanna tell me how you worked that out?

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Louis said she targeted me and jailed Irish. That doesn’t affect who I target.

[Category 5 Hurricane]

This is why you don't just set all your cards down on the table right away, folks.

[Jeod]

I don’t follow.

[Category 5 Hurricane]

  On 5/10/2022 at 11:41 PM, Jeod said:

Louis said she targeted me and jailed Irish. That doesn’t affect who I target.

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There are other explanations for me knowing Louis jailed Irish than me bussing.

[Shade939]

  On 5/10/2022 at 11:43 PM, Jeod said:

I don’t follow.

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Jumps in logic that can only be explained by having access to another source of information other than this thread.

[Shade939]

Feel free to ignore me and go with Category 5's explanation instead, who still hasn't revealed his ability.

[Jeod]

  On 5/10/2022 at 11:44 PM, Shade939 said:

Jumps in logic that can only be explained by having access to another source of information other than this thread.

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It’s called putting the pieces together and logically filling in the blanks.

[Jeod]

  On 5/10/2022 at 9:42 PM, Category 5 Hurricane said:

Louis actually jailed TheIrishman. I don't believe this claim that Jeod was also jailed. I think this is something else.

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  On 5/10/2022 at 9:43 PM, Jeod said:

Oh so Chopbam's assumption was incorrect?

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  On 5/10/2022 at 9:45 PM, Jeod said:

The one about you having jailed TheIrishMan.

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  On 5/10/2022 at 9:48 PM, Category 5 Hurricane said:

Yeah, I saw a lot of people think that.

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  On 5/10/2022 at 11:20 PM, Jeod said:

I sat in a cell overnight. Whether it means jailed or blocked via visiting my target is the unknown. If it’s the former then something funky is going on with the bus driver claim. If it’s the latter then shade isn’t vanilla.

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Here, try it for yourself. It's quite cool.

[Jeod]

The really sad thing about Shade is that whenever he's wrong he waves it off as the other player's fault for "not playing well". He can never accept blame.

[Category 5 Hurricane]

Based on what I have said, I could have tracked Louis to TheIrishman, or watched TheIrishman and saw Louis visit.

[Jeod]

  On 5/10/2022 at 11:56 PM, Category 5 Hurricane said:

Based on what I have said, I could have tracked Louis to TheIrishman, or watched TheIrishman and saw Louis visit.

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Could have, but then why would you feel the need to say you don't believe I was also jailed? The natural and logical conclusion is a bus driver.

[Shade939]

  On 5/10/2022 at 11:59 PM, Jeod said:

Could have, but then why would you feel the need to say you don't believe I was also jailed? The natural and logical conclusion is a bus driver.

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I assumed that Category 5 had targeted Irish with his ability, and him being jailed was an unintended side effect, or later on that another unknown player had targeted him.

[Category 5 Hurricane]

I don't believe there is a second jailer, and that if you actually did have an action fail, it was for a different reason.

[Jeod]

  On 5/11/2022 at 12:05 AM, Shade939 said:

I assumed that Category 5 had targeted Irish with his ability, and him being jailed was an unintended side effect, or later on that another unknown player had targeted him.

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  On 5/11/2022 at 12:05 AM, Category 5 Hurricane said:

I don't believe there is a second jailer, and that if you actually did have an action fail, it was for a different reason.

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To me the several above quotes laid out read as if Category 5 were directly insinuating the following:

1) That he believes Louis' claim as a jailer

2) That he does not believe there's a second jailer

3) That he knew Louis jailed TheIrishMan (and believes I was not jailed) because he redirected Louis from me to TheIrishMan via bus.

[Shade939]

So, is anyone else going to vote Jeod?

[FRAYDO]

Throughout this day, I have not liked how Jeod has changed his stories.

  On 5/10/2022 at 12:47 AM, Jeod said:

 

How convenient. You two are too cute. But no, I passed my item last night.

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On the first report, Jeod has claimed he passed his item. No interruptions or inconveniences to note.

  On 5/10/2022 at 1:02 AM, Jeod said:

You have some wishful thinking there, if you and Louis are not a team. If Louis blocked me, she should come right out of the gate saying it. Not only that, though, but one player being roleblocked doesn't mean a jackpot. Sorry but I'm far more reserved and I refuse to jump on the first wagon I can find.

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Stating that Louis should outright come out and say what they have done, but Jeod did not make such a report either.

  On 5/10/2022 at 1:12 AM, Louis said:

Yes, I did block Jeod last night, i find it weird that there was no kill maybe due to me role blocking or no night kill. I'm not willing to push for Jeod, but I have always given people the benefit of the doubt which usually comes to killing me in the end. 

I find it a coincidence.

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Louis claims they have blocked Jeod, which makes sense in this current case.

  On 5/10/2022 at 1:13 AM, Jeod said:

In that case I probably didn't pass my item after all. I don't do anything else yet.

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  On 5/10/2022 at 1:15 AM, Jeod said:

My PM said I attempted to pass it. The intended recipient would have had to confirm receipt.

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And now the story is Jeod attempted to pass his item, now knowing he may have been blocked.

  On 5/10/2022 at 4:06 PM, Jeod said:

Correct. Now there are three reasons I gather that we lack a nk:

1. The killer was roleblocked/jailed

2. The kill target was protected (by being blocked/jailed)

3. There was deliberately no kill target

@ Louis  Shade will just guess anyway, since I’m fairly certain now that he’s scum, so I’ll go ahead and publicly state that my PM does say I was jailed.

We may have a mirror match, but I’m not going to rule out Atreides having two jailers. It’s clearly capable of causing enough confusion.

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But later into the conversation with other things coming to light, the revised story is now that his PM says he was jailed. I can understand not wanting to come out with it as the first report because of all the immediate suspicion that would get, but I don't like how much it took for this claim to come out.

I am not particularly a fan of the many vanilla roles claimed at this point either, but that's another discussion.

##vote Jeod

[Louis]

  On 5/10/2022 at 5:09 PM, Shade939 said:

Are you a jailer or are you a roleblocker? Those are not the same thing, do you also protect your target or do you just prevent them from performing any actions?

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Roleblocker it seems

[Shade939]

I'm pretty certain we only have one extra vanilla role claim.

[Jeod]

  On 5/11/2022 at 12:33 AM, FRAYDO said:

Throughout this day, I have not liked how Jeod has changed his stories.

On the first report, Jeod has claimed he passed his item. No interruptions or inconveniences to note.

Stating that Louis should outright come out and say what they have done, but Jeod did not make such a report either.

Louis claims they have blocked Jeod, which makes sense in this current case.

 

And now the story is Jeod attempted to pass his item, now knowing he may have been blocked.

But later into the conversation with other things coming to light, the revised story is now that his PM says he was jailed. I can understand not wanting to come out with it as the first report because of all the immediate suspicion that would get, but I don't like how much it took for this claim to come out.

I am not particularly a fan of the many vanilla roles claimed at this point either, but that's another discussion.

##vote Jeod

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Jailer is a protection role. I wouldn't want to make them known just as equally as scum wouldn't want to admit they were jailed.

[Shade939]

  On 5/11/2022 at 12:34 AM, Louis said:

Roleblocker it seems

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Glad to hear that, if you could also prevent the NK by protecting your target, it would really nerf the usefulness of your role. Since we couldn't tell from your ability why the NK failed.