Jeod Posted July 20, 2017 Report Share Posted July 20, 2017 3 minutes ago, Alstar said: They cannot sabotage this round. That ability can be activated every second plan phase. Oh, alright then. There's still one silo left, and they can rule out Alstar and ChopBam (because he fired a gun). If ChopBam isn't scum, then there's some good odds. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mojoman Posted July 20, 2017 Report Share Posted July 20, 2017 7 minutes ago, Jeod said: Oh, alright then. There's still one silo left, and they can rule out Alstar and ChopBam (because he fired a gun). If ChopBam isn't scum, then there's some good odds. I think we're all agreed on Choppys towniness 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeod Posted July 20, 2017 Report Share Posted July 20, 2017 1 minute ago, Mojoman said: I think we're all agreed on Choppys towniness Are you? Look who started the Jeod bandwagon which resulted in saving TheIrishMan. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alstar Posted July 20, 2017 Report Share Posted July 20, 2017 The person who wanted to shoot the murderer of fellow townie but got stopped because of stupid gimmicks in your role. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alstar Posted July 20, 2017 Report Share Posted July 20, 2017 Also, "Resulted in saving irishman" seems to be said in a manner which would imply that hes one of scum. Im not taking this bait, esspecialy after what you wrote earlier. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeod Posted July 20, 2017 Report Share Posted July 20, 2017 18 minutes ago, Alstar said: The person who wanted to shoot the murderer of fellow townie but got stopped because of stupid gimmicks in your role. Are you implying you hard scumread TheIrishMan? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheIrishman Posted July 20, 2017 Report Share Posted July 20, 2017 Anybody ever noticed how this game is a bit skewed in scum's favor? By that I mean that Town's special victory condition is impossible to complete, unless we repeatedly lynch buildings. D1 12 → 11 N1 11 → 10 D2 10 → 9 N2 9 → 8 D3 8 → 7 N3 7 → 6 D4 6 → 5 N4 5 → 4 D5 4 → 3 + 1 (Engineer revives building if he didn't already die) N5 4 → 3 D6 3 → 2 N6 2 → 1 D7 Nuke goes off, we win. Just kidding because scum won either D3 if they had 3 allies and we didn't kill any, D4 if they have 2, D5/D6 if they had just 1 left. This is all assuming we didn't use any guns to kill each other (like we would be expected to) or that they weren't able to get a double night kill, like they already have. Right now we're sitting at D3 with 8 players, and we'll more than likely get down to 7 or lower if more shots are fired, and probably follow the above example, except without the engineer reviving, so we're guaranteed to be unable to get our special win condition. The game itself is fun but D7 is too much of a stretch for the secondary win condition with only 12 players. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeod Posted July 20, 2017 Report Share Posted July 20, 2017 It was more possible when you had your Heavy Tank, Engineer, and Starshina. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheIrishman Posted July 20, 2017 Report Share Posted July 20, 2017 Just now, Jeod said: It was more possible when you had your Heavy Tank, Engineer, and Starshina. No, Heavy Tank dies dies on block, apparently. I already pretended the Engineer worked in the example, and Starshina wouldn't have helped much in keeping us alive for 7 days. Maybe if we have a roleblocker, like an Officer. Actually I didn't think about that before, maybe there is still a SK, but someone locked him up? Anyway, the point is, by the time we reached D7, scum would've already killed us or our silos, if not that, then maybe we killed before. But the point is that D7 is basically impossible to reach. Which seems odd when the scum's special objective makes it easier for them to win, while ours is just there to give us false hope. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheIrishman Posted July 20, 2017 Report Share Posted July 20, 2017 maybe we killed them before.* 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alstar Posted July 20, 2017 Report Share Posted July 20, 2017 Irishman, 7 because Jeod cannot take any actions including voting. And Jeod, im implying that your congratulation post means that you are cooperating with scum. I was suspicious of irishman, thats true. But now i feel that you are trying to buss any single remeaning town player in game via fake informations. Thats why you pointed out yesterday's Irishman's case. Heck, i wouldnt be surprised if you have look into which players are part of the scum or not. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retaliation Posted July 20, 2017 Report Share Posted July 20, 2017 ##vote Alstar IT MUST BE DONE. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheIrishman Posted July 20, 2017 Report Share Posted July 20, 2017 3 minutes ago, Alstar said: Irishman, 7 because Jeod cannot take any actions including voting. Yeah, I was going to correct that, but in my example above, Jeod was included as being neutral, so the winning on certain days with however many players still stand as is. So if there are 3 scum and we lynch a townie today, we lose. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeod Posted July 20, 2017 Report Share Posted July 20, 2017 2 minutes ago, Retaliation said: ##vote Alstar IT MUST BE DONE. He's a building. Can't be lynched. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retaliation Posted July 20, 2017 Report Share Posted July 20, 2017 On 7/19/2017 at 2:12 PM, Retaliation said: Anyone who hammers is on gallows duty next day. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VERTi60 Posted July 20, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 20, 2017 4 minutes ago, Retaliation said: ##vote Alstar [Vote Counted] Retaliation voted Alstar to be lynched! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VERTi60 Posted July 20, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 20, 2017 Time Left: 1 day(s) , 22 hours, 22 min, 12 sec CVC: Alstar voted nobody Chaos_Knight voted nobody ChopBam voted nobody Jeod [BLOCKED] Mojoman voted nobody OrangeP47 voted nobody Retaliation voted Alstar TheIrishman voted nobody 1/7 votes casted so far Alstar has the most votes - 1 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheIrishman Posted July 20, 2017 Report Share Posted July 20, 2017 We're currently at 7 (8) players. D3 7 N3 7 → 6 D4 6 N4 6 → 5 D5 5 N5 5 → 4 D6 4 N6 4 → 3 D7 3 If we tried a no lynch tactic, it wouldn't enable us to win either. If there are 3 scum, we still lose D4, if there are 2, we lose D6. We might've won if we tried a no lynch tactic from the start AND didn't shoot any guns, but we'd have to somehow guarantee that scum couldn't shoot their either. Either way, relying on our silos to win it for us is hopeless. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retaliation Posted July 20, 2017 Report Share Posted July 20, 2017 I'd vote you Irish, if it were not for the sake of the joke. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeP47 Posted July 20, 2017 Report Share Posted July 20, 2017 (Forgot reverse-hammer was today, and I've been distracted by steamgifts ) The shootsfest was probably a bad idea, but what's done is done. I take it 'it' was not done, given the result we had on Jeod in the first place, and the hammer shenanigans. It's unfortunate, but I'm still not certain on who a good scum-bet would be. I will say some people are doing well providing content, at the very least, and some are not... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheIrishman Posted July 20, 2017 Report Share Posted July 20, 2017 Vote whoever you wish, Retaliation. ##vote Jeod 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeod Posted July 20, 2017 Report Share Posted July 20, 2017 38 minutes ago, Alstar said: Irishman, 7 because Jeod cannot take any actions including voting. And Jeod, im implying that your congratulation post means that you are cooperating with scum. I was suspicious of irishman, thats true. But now i feel that you are trying to buss any single remeaning town player in game via fake informations. Thats why you pointed out yesterday's Irishman's case. Heck, i wouldnt be surprised if you have look into which players are part of the scum or not. This is false, but a good guess. I can't cooperate with anyone at the moment due to being blocked. Had I not been blocked, I'd have been able to use a night action last night. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VERTi60 Posted July 20, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 20, 2017 6 minutes ago, TheIrishman said: ##vote Jeod [Vote Counted] TheIrishman voted Jeod to be lynched! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VERTi60 Posted July 20, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 20, 2017 Time Left: 1 day(s) , 22 hours, 3 min, 44 sec CVC: Alstar voted nobody Chaos_Knight voted nobody ChopBam voted nobody Jeod [BLOCKED] Mojoman voted nobody OrangeP47 voted nobody Retaliation voted Alstar TheIrishman voted Jeod 2/7 votes casted so far 2 voted players are at a tie (1 each) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retaliation Posted July 20, 2017 Report Share Posted July 20, 2017 4 minutes ago, Jeod said: This is false, but a good guess. I can't cooperate with anyone at the moment due to being blocked. Had I not been blocked, I'd have been able to use a night action last night. Are you saying you're the serial killer? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alstar Posted July 20, 2017 Report Share Posted July 20, 2017 Maybe you cant cooperate with anyone because you're blocked, but there is still one thing that cannot be disabled. Your victory conditions. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheIrishman Posted July 20, 2017 Report Share Posted July 20, 2017 Wait, what? That vote actually counts? I was just joking since I wished he could actually be lynched. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeod Posted July 20, 2017 Report Share Posted July 20, 2017 Just now, Retaliation said: Are you saying you're the serial killer? No, I'm saying I had a night action. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheIrishman Posted July 20, 2017 Report Share Posted July 20, 2017 ##unvote And Jeod couldn't be the serial killer since he's Neutral Evil. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeod Posted July 21, 2017 Report Share Posted July 21, 2017 2 minutes ago, Alstar said: Maybe you cant cooperate with anyone because you're blocked, but there is still one thing that cannot be disabled. Your victory conditions. Which are being met, so long as Allies don't kill me. As long as I'm alive, there's one less player they need to be able to force a tie. It would be a waste if they nightkill me, even after the last silo is killed. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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