Alstar Posted November 5, 2017 Report Share Posted November 5, 2017 1 minute ago, FRAYDO said: Even you claimed you didn't get your intended target, if that's to be believed. How do i know YOU visited me when i was about to pay a visit to ChopBam but got redirected to watch over myself? You know what, im tired of you. Let's clear this once and for all, hopefully. ##sense FRAYDO 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FRAYDO Posted November 5, 2017 Report Share Posted November 5, 2017 4 minutes ago, Category 5 Hurricane said: Allow me to reiterate that I was absolutely targeted for a NK, else my disappearing act would not have been triggered. So it was either FRAYDO, Alstar, or someone who can avoid being detected by a Watcher. Now hold up, I was the potential victim for the night kill if it wasn't for my Zombie BP. I visited you after being redirected from Orange, got my alignment check. Alstar watched you, saw that I visited you. Unless visitors count toward your disappearance trigger than it had to be Alstar who targeted you for the NK. But then that doesn't explain my BP loss, because that was Orange when he "fizzled out" on me. 4 minutes ago, Alstar said: How do i know YOU visited me when i was about to pay a visit to ChopBam but got redirected to watch over myself? You know what, im tired of you. Let's clear this once and for all, hopefully. ##sense FRAYDO ##moonsense715? You seem upset so maybe no room for lame jokes, but I do hope your action brings clarity for us all. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FRAYDO Posted November 5, 2017 Report Share Posted November 5, 2017 Ah jeez, it's 3 AM. I don't believe we'll get that clarity from your action any time soon. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Category 5 Hurricane Posted November 5, 2017 Report Share Posted November 5, 2017 See, the problem with Alstar being the person who attacked me is that it has been confirmed that he watched me, and saw you visit me. Accidentally confirmed by GM. And it doesn't make sense for Alstar to attack me while also watching me. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FRAYDO Posted November 5, 2017 Report Share Posted November 5, 2017 In the meantime, would you care to explain what this action will do to me? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alstar Posted November 5, 2017 Report Share Posted November 5, 2017 Buys you some more time to make couple more false claims? You supposedly used your ability twice, returning wrong results every time. Oh, that? Will return a certain piece of information about you. Be it Alignment, Your role, One of abilities or maybe even the character you're based on. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Category 5 Hurricane Posted November 5, 2017 Report Share Posted November 5, 2017 I notice that you left out the possibility that it was someone other than Alstar, FRAYDO. I left the door open that it was someone undetectable, but you didn't include that possibility. Why? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FRAYDO Posted November 5, 2017 Report Share Posted November 5, 2017 On 11/3/2017 at 1:33 PM, Jeod said: Unless Alstar's lying or we have a Ninja scum role, it's the truth. I'm not yet sold on the ninja scum role, unless you have any leads? Since you came back, what information do you have to share? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Category 5 Hurricane Posted November 5, 2017 Report Share Posted November 5, 2017 So, anyway, I imagine you're all awaiting to hear what happens in the alternate history I chose to view. I chose to check what would have happened if Nodlied was lynched. Nodlied was Town. His character is Death. He really does give out hugs, two variants, called Love/Hate Death's Embrace. One helps the target, one hurts the target. Not going to be more specific on the actions unless you really need more evidence. His passive is called Deathless. The information regarding this action is not revealed. But let's be real, it means that if Voe fires on him during Day1, it reflects back at him and kills him. pfff. Ahem. BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA I DON'T HAVE THAT ROLE! IF I DID, I COULD HAVE TOLD YOU DURING N1! I TRICKED YOU INTO NOLYNCHING FOR NO REASON BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA (well, other than to draw a target on myself, but yeah) But you know what? You wound up with tons of info on D2, had an extra player to help with that, and wound up lynching Mafia to top it off. Nolynching D1 should perhaps be an actual strategy in role heavy games like this. I made all that up based off what Nodlied has said so far. I have no idea if it's true because I don't really have an investigative role of any kind. As Jeod suspected, my role is nearly the same as last game. If I'm targeted by an "attack" (this was described as any night action that would kill me, not just the designated mafia nightkill), I'm killed, but I use the Morphogenetic Field to Schroedinger my way back into the game. This can be proven because Alstar and FRAYDO were able to target me, while they wouldn't have been able to find me if my role was activated by myself. To make things more difficult, in addition to me surviving, I must also trigger that role. I needed to get myself killed (but not lynched) so claiming an absurd cop role straight away seemed like a good way to go. Now that I have passed that requirement, I just need to be alive in this history when the game ends, and I win. That could still prove to be tricky, with all these actions being redirected... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheIrishman Posted November 5, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 5, 2017 Lucky for you guys, I usually stay up late :b Resolving: Alstar has used Sense on FRAYDO and has found that he is from Resident Evil! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FRAYDO Posted November 5, 2017 Report Share Posted November 5, 2017 14 minutes ago, Alstar said: Alignment, Your role, One of abilities or maybe even the character you're based on. Knock yourself out. Any one of these will clear me. In case my abilities turn out ambiguous, I'll tell you firsthand. Day action, ##Bite Night action, ##Sniff Block a day action and learn alignment, respectively. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Category 5 Hurricane Posted November 5, 2017 Report Share Posted November 5, 2017 You do manage to come out looking better as a result, but also it makes no sense for Alstar to have that role while not being town. Which brings us back to you have two incorrect cop results. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FRAYDO Posted November 5, 2017 Report Share Posted November 5, 2017 Well, Alstar? Your thoughts? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alstar Posted November 5, 2017 Report Share Posted November 5, 2017 Im trying to scavenge all the informations i can from D1 for now, please go on. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FRAYDO Posted November 5, 2017 Report Share Posted November 5, 2017 I'll be off to bed for the time being, 'lest I stay up and see when Category will be satisfied with his avatar placement. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Category 5 Hurricane Posted November 5, 2017 Report Share Posted November 5, 2017 I do have a contradiction that I'm trying to work out. I was attacked, so somebody had to visit me and do that. It could have been FRAYDO. FRAYDO claims to have been attacked himself. OrangeP47 did admit this, and frankly, given OrangeP47's tendency to take charge as scum, it makes sense that he made the mafia nightkill. If we believe both those reports, FRAYDO was the one hit. If this is true, then I was attacked by something else. Given the description of my role, there are probably multiple killing roles. I believe the Mafia team is probably two people, and FRAYDO apparently didn't make the nightkill on ChopBam. I already felt that FRAYDO and OrangeP47 were not on the same team, so I do not believe that FRAYDO is Mafia. I do think it is possible that FRAYDO is Third Party and has his own killing role, but if he does, why didn't he kill Alstar? Makes me think it was more likely an undetected attacker. But if that is true, why the false cop results? I mean, it doesn't take much to make this story fit. If I believe that scum can use their role on a target while nightkilling another, then FRAYDO could totally be Mafia. Also, if FRAYDO isn't Mafia, why was ChopBam killed instead of the claimed cop? And then OrangeP47's last day action was used in such a way that it directly benefited FRAYDO in such a way that it probably saved him from whatever Killing_You was about to do. Why would OrangeP47 do that? To distance himself from Killing_You, or protect the mafia team from being wiped out in a single day? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alstar Posted November 5, 2017 Report Share Posted November 5, 2017 Just a small thought. Cat5 reports being attacked N1. Only visitors are me and FRAYDO. FRAYDO reports redirection to Cat5 while targeting Orange. Orange supposedly got redirected at FRAYDO, while in his death post he have only roleblock (but for some reason usual kill is not listed, mistake or not?). Cat5 disappears. As stupid as it may sound, couple of options. 1. Orange roleblock was redirected to FRAYDO. He got blocked. Someone unseen by me scored the "kill" 2. Orange's roleblock was redirected to FRAYDO. FRAYDO lies about roleblock, due to possible immunities. He attempts to kill Cat5. But then we have contradiction. 1. ChopBam's death. Either we have another killer on the loose, or FRAYDO is really clear. 2. If FRAYDO is a killer, would i be still alive since he decided to pay me a visit? I'd still like for KY to explain himself from this night. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Category 5 Hurricane Posted November 5, 2017 Report Share Posted November 5, 2017 6 hours ago, TheIrishman said: With one player down on each side You must each do your best to decide What actions will you take To prove that you're not a fake? Gee, I wonder why the GM brought up talking about fakes? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FRAYDO Posted November 5, 2017 Report Share Posted November 5, 2017 Hold on, it's 4 AM and this is stuck on my mind. 34 minutes ago, Category 5 Hurricane said: You do manage to come out looking better as a result, but also it makes no sense for Alstar to have that role while not being town. Which brings us back to you have two incorrect cop results. When was it said that Alstar had an incorrect cop result? I get your questioning of me, but Alstar? While I'm am it, it's CYOR. To me, it makes sense for Alstar to have his role while being mafia. On one hand, it's a ploy to get townie points. Being forthcoming with info is always a pro-Town move, but something more nefarious comes to mind. His ability comes with revealing either alignment, role, one or the abilities, or even character of his target. It's a slim chance (role or abilites, maybe even with knowing the character) but such an action could reveal potential power roles and threats to scum and help them decide their next NK. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Category 5 Hurricane Posted November 5, 2017 Report Share Posted November 5, 2017 I find Alstar to be pretty town looking for his D2 play, and the fact that he watched the likely NK target. Putting that together with his day action, yes, if I decide that he's town, then that means you have two incorrect cop results. Sure, he could be mafia. But why would I believe your second cop claim when your first is wrong? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Category 5 Hurricane Posted November 5, 2017 Report Share Posted November 5, 2017 I mean, I don't even think it's a case of insanity or another role messing with your results. Because I can't think of a case where either of those things would cause you to get a Third Party result on a Neutral player. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Category 5 Hurricane Posted November 5, 2017 Report Share Posted November 5, 2017 Honestly, I'd think the only way that you are town is if you're trying to copy my tactics and draw the nightkill to yourself. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alstar Posted November 5, 2017 Report Share Posted November 5, 2017 5 minutes ago, FRAYDO said: His ability comes with revealing either alignment, role, one or the abilities, or even character of his target. It's a slim chance (role or abilites, maybe even with knowing the character) but such an action could reveal potential power roles and threats to scum and help them decide their next NK. If i wanted to fish for abilities, id use it already 3 times whenever i had the chance. My role PM doesnt mention it have limited usages. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheIrishman Posted November 5, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 5, 2017 Time Left: 1 day(s), 12 hour(s), 25 min(s) CVC: Alstar voted nobody ChopBam voted nobody FRAYDO voted Alstar Jeod voted nobody Killing You voted nobody Voe voted nobody Kamuixmod voted nobody Nodlied voted nobody OrangeP47 voted nobody Category 5 Hurricane voted nobody 1/8 votes cast so far Alstar currently holds the most votes, 1 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voe Posted November 5, 2017 Report Share Posted November 5, 2017 ##Unstoppable Road Rage Alstar 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alstar Posted November 5, 2017 Report Share Posted November 5, 2017 I have a terrible feeling about this. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Alstar Posted November 5, 2017 Report Share Posted November 5, 2017 Before i die, i'd like to know you that FRAYDO deserves to be hanged. Because nothing is worse for team than cop with chaotic readings. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Category 5 Hurricane Posted November 5, 2017 Report Share Posted November 5, 2017 If you die, that'll be at least one good thing that comes out of that. FRAYDO is instantly confirmed as a fake. Won't be happy to lose the Watcher, though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeod Posted November 5, 2017 Report Share Posted November 5, 2017 Sweet Jesus. I just woke up, have 5 hours before my shift (it’s at noon), so I’ll grab some breakfast and be right with you. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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