Games [Game Over] Star Wars Mafia: Jedi vs Sith

[Retaliation]

That would be cheating (he's surprisingly protective about his force ghostness). Won't even tell me things he talked to you about directly.

 

Instead Shade mentions that Irish hasn't healed himself yet.

[OrangeP47]

This might be how Jeod felt

[Retaliation]

Vert's tightened what Shade can and can't talk about in the force doc apparently. Can basically only ask his opinions on what he thinks of the public game.

I like how his suspect list is over half the players though. Really big on trying to figure out who's learning dark force powers.

[OrangeP47]

Does he still suspect me, despite the fact that he said he can only visit people who have not been tainted?

[TheIrishman]

Ugh, god. I really don't want to have to look back and find where you said, but I'm fairly certain you claimed Wisdom, ChopBam. If that's the case, you shouldn't have Sense Force like myself, Voe, Cat5, and Nodlied. Also you're missing 30 FP, where Cat5's action should've cost him only 10 FP (if he used Sense Force).

A little note, both Shade and Jeod are missing 10 FP this round. So I'm inclined to believe Orange about the ghosts, especially due to Jeod's reaction. Considering Jeod is probably a Sith Ghost, albeit almost certainly an absent one, I think that points to everyone turning into a ghost upon death.

If that's the case Sunflower, that means it should've been N1 where you actually performed 2 T1 actions. Btw, you seem to be doing a relatively fine job for you first game.

I'm not sure I believe Retaliation that he was contacted by Shade. He waited until over half of everyone posted, then claims he was contacted right when Sunflower was starting to build a good case against him? And when Orange asks for proof, he claims it's cheating? Is it? Orange isn't asking for a quote from their doc, Shade could just mention something in general that they talked about in the previous doc.

I'm confused why "he" mentioned that.

Updated table. If anything is wrong, let me know.

Players	Character	Race	Skills		Claimed Abilities	N0	N1	N2
Sunflower	Aayla Secura	Twi’lek	?	[Wis]	None	Learn T1 ? (-10 FP)	Learn T2 +10 Max FP	2 T1?
Shade939	Dare Komad	Whiphid	[Con]	[Wis]	None	Learn T1 + Protect Self	Duel	Dead
OrangeP47	Unknown	Unknown	[Dex]	[Cha]	None	Holo-Pad – Shade Track Force TheIrishman – No Force Used	Learn T1 Track Force Nodlied – Sense Force	T1? T2?
Nodlied	Unknown	Unknown	[Con]	[Int]	None	Learn T1	Learn T2 Sense Force – Voe, Fear	T1?
Jeod	Darth Voss	“Human”	[Dex]	[Cha]	None	Learn T1 ? (-10 FP)	Learn T2	Duel
Killing_You	Unknown	Mandalorian	?	[Wis]	None	“Failed Holo-Pad – Orange” +10 Max FP	Learn T1	T2?
Retaliation	Tachanka	Unknown	[Con]	[Wis]	None	Learn T1 +10 Max FP	Learn T2 +10 Max FP	2 T1?
Category 5	Christina Starleaper	“Kiffar”	?	[Int]	None	Learn T1	Learn T2	Sense Force - Nodlied T2?
TheIrishman	Faelyn The Seeker	Stennes Shifter	[Con]	[Int]	None	Learn T1 Learn T2	Duel	Learn T1 Learn T2
FRAYDO	Unknown	Unknown	?	[Cha]	None	Holo-Pad – Orange Track Force TheIrishman – No Force Used	Sense Meditation Force Track Orange – Force Track	2 T1?
Voe	Hermit VolDergar	Kaleesh	[Str]	[Int]	None	Learn 2 T1	Learn 2 T2	Duel
Chopbam	Unknown	“Human”	[Dex]	[Wis]	None	Learn T1	Learn T2	T2?

[TheIrishman]

1 minute ago, Retaliation said:

Vert's tightened what Shade can and can't talk about in the force doc apparently. Can basically only ask his opinions on what he thinks of the public game.

Huh...somewhat believable.

[Sunflower]

Thank Irish.  In my first turn, I learned T1 and used my ability to resist dark powers. In my second turn I learned T2 and used my new ability to increase my force. In this turn, I learned T1 and used the resist dark powers ability again.

[Retaliation]

2 minutes ago, OrangeP47 said:

Does he still suspect me, despite the fact that he said he can only visit people who have not been tainted?

He's been avoiding talking about you because that inevitably makes me ask questions about your doc.

He really doesn't like that everyone suddenly decided that Irish isn't suspicious though. 

 

[Sunflower]

Ugh mafia edit: Thanks*

[OrangeP47]

Just now, Retaliation said:

He's been avoiding talking about you because that inevitably makes me ask questions about your doc.

He really doesn't like that everyone suddenly decided that Irish isn't suspicious though. 

 

TBH that sounds just like him so I'm leaning towards you telling the truth.

[Sunflower]

Well I really don't like that he didn't visit me, so he can join the club.

[OrangeP47]

But on the other had I did mention that opinion on an episode of "Last Time, on Shade" a few posts back

[Sunflower]

This game is so frustrating. I spent hours researching stuff only to have my biggest leads slapped down with one sentence.

[Retaliation]

3 minutes ago, Sunflower said:

Well I really don't like that he didn't visit me, so he can join the club.

Shade is worried about scum having an unblockable ability to counter him similar to scum having a trump card against me in cuban missile crisis. This is why he was interested in seeing if scum could get around your defenses.

3 minutes ago, OrangeP47 said:

But on the other had I did mention that opinion on an episode of "Last Time, on Shade" a few posts back

Remember the beginning of the game where we said don't answer questions for other people? This feels like that

My questioning of cat5 and nodlied was supposed to be a hint that I was in contact with Shade. I have Irish writing down WHY he thinks Irish is scum though.

[ChopBam]

Irish, I'm missing 30 FP because I used a T2 action.

9 minutes ago, Sunflower said:

This game is so frustrating. I spent hours researching stuff only to have my biggest leads slapped down with one sentence.

Can you see why I've been slightly aloof?

I'm in general agreement about the sentiments regarding Retaliation. I'll admit that the red lightsaber "argument" I made was conjecture born out of mild interest, but Jeod's lightsaber also being red piqued my attention. Retaliation's "no u" is consisting of his counterclaim involving people that are basically clear, in my mind. It'd also make sense that his combat abilities are what would make the sith stronger in this game, since they don't get night kills to boot. So Retal right now is my #1 suspect.

[Retaliation]

Summary of the rambling of my late master Dare Komad

A) Only one to vote up Jeod as champion

B) Tried to assist in the Jeod vs Nodlied duel

C) Something about Hibernation thing that I can't remember happening

D) Hasn't healed himself despite having easy access to a force ability to do so

E) Overreaction to Cat5 mentioning how happy Irish was to be a jedi

F) Removed mention of hibernation from his chart later

 

[ChopBam]

Just now, ChopBam said:

counterclaim

*counter argument

[ChopBam]

I would like to see Nodlied's take on this, and his confirmation that I visited him. He should know the exact name of the action I used.

[Sunflower]

8 minutes ago, ChopBam said:

Can you see why I've been slightly aloof?

Yep! Maybe I should follow your example lol.

Anyways, I'm not sure why Jeod would offer Irish up as a champion if they were Sith buddies unless he just thought there was no way he would lose.

[Killing_You]

Alright, this is a tough one. I'd like to know what everyone did- full disclosure. This is what's probably going to give us the information we need to move forward.

I'll start: Irish is correct, I learned Tier 2. Sense-Alter, to be specific.

[Retaliation]

I learned my final T1 ability (sense) and continued to buff my max FP.

[OrangeP47]

I learned a T2 and used my night force ability to see what night force abilities Irish used, and again the action failed.

[Retaliation]

That reminds me, I can prove the only force ability I've used all game is Maximize Force since I need to rest anyway.

[Killing_You]

Perhaps I should clarify that I'm most interested in Cat5 and Choppy's results. I'd like to know what about those two results made Cat5 decide to turn his case away from Irish and ChopBam.

[TheIrishman]

Just now, ChopBam said:

Irish, I'm missing 30 FP because I used a T2 action.

Can you see why I've been slightly aloof?

I'm in general agreement about the sentiments regarding Retaliation. I'll admit that the red lightsaber "argument" I made was conjecture born out of mild interest, but Jeod's lightsaber also being red piqued my attention. Retaliation's "no u" is consisting of his counterclaim involving people that are basically clear, in my mind. It'd also make sense that his combat abilities are what would make the sith stronger in this game, since they don't get night kills to boot. So Retal right now is my #1 suspect.

Well, this is getting a bit annoying because you, Nodlied, and Retaliation were my main suspects and now everyone seems to be getting "cleared".

3 minutes ago, Retaliation said:

Summary of the rambling of my late master Dare Komad

A) Only one to vote up Jeod as champion

B) Tried to assist in the Jeod vs Nodlied duel

C) Something about Hibernation thing that I can't remember happening

D) Hasn't healed himself despite having easy access to a force ability to do so

E) Overreaction to Cat5 mentioning how happy Irish was to be a jedi

F) Removed mention of hibernation from his chart later

Incentive for him to stay rather than to rage quit.

Yeah, my top two suspects at the time.

Um...I think you're talking about when he asked whether Nodlied had it and then I pointed out that he shouldn't because we were just told by Verti about the whole Int, Wis, and Cha affecting which night actions we have.

13 HP isn't something I'd consider dire enough to Rest since it'd waste the potential 40 FP for learning last night. Control Meditation would be even worse since it'd knock off 25 FP while I couldn't even learn. Although I'm generally lazy, I like to be efficient with things when I can.

Star Wars is my shit. I was explaining Star Wars lore to a guy who doesn't know Star Wars.

After someone reminded me that there are 3 different starting abilities based on which Force Focus you chose >.> FRAYDO and Orange said they didn't have it, but I figured they'd most likely learn it later. They probably chose Sense, while Jeod probably chose Control.

I'm actually tempted to get rid of the "claimed abilities" column since I can just put quotations around them and it'll leave more room for future nights.

[Retaliation]

Irish that's not really supposed to be an accusation against you. I'm passing along Shade's logic to suspect you in order to show Orange I'm telling the truth.

 

Shade has decided it's Very Important to tell you that he feels scum can only access their scum doc during the night phase. I believe this is something we've discussed already though.

[Category 5 Hurricane]

Yeah, Irishman, you've marked myself and ChopBam for the wrong action. I did a Learn T1 and a NFA that was worth 30 FP. 

Regarding Shade's arguments on TheIrishman, I basically agree with all of that. I was going to attack him for pretty much all those things and more.

But the night action result I have tells me to drop that case....unless I think that there is something wrong with the result. And I have no reason to think that at this time.

[TheIrishman]

28 minutes ago, Category 5 Hurricane said:

Yeah, Irishman, you've marked myself and ChopBam for the wrong action. I did a Learn T1 and a NFA that was worth 30 FP. 

Regarding Shade's arguments on TheIrishman, I basically agree with all of that. I was going to attack him for pretty much all those things and more.

But the night action result I have tells me to drop that case....unless I think that there is something wrong with the result. And I have no reason to think that at this time.

Ah, alright. I think I can guess what your action does then.

This is probably going to bring you right back to me, but since you brought it up, there's a possibility that the result can be wrong for Sense Force, so don't trust it too heavily. It basically says in parenthesis that some people can hide their alignment in the Light. I'd guess with a Dark Side ability. And before you think I did, I learned Sense and Sense-Alter last night.

[Category 5 Hurricane]

5 hours ago, Killing_You said:

Perhaps I should clarify that I'm most interested in Cat5 and Choppy's results. I'd like to know what about those two results made Cat5 decide to turn his case away from Irish and ChopBam.

I intercepted Nodlied's action result. Nodlied's "light" result on TheIrishman turns me away from TheIrishman. Then ChopBam's first comment indicated to me that ChopBam also knew Nodlied's action result. I see no viable reason for a Shit to take this action or reveal this knowledge, so this turns me away from ChopBam.

[Category 5 Hurricane]

I don't really like how this has turned out. I don't think this game will have only 2 scum, so if my suspect pool is reduced to Killing_You and Sunflower, I should have a 100% hit rate there. (Removing Retaliation because of Shade) But I'm having trouble seeing Sunflower as involved in this. Honestly, I'd even believe a 4-man scum team given the apparent inability for scum to nightkill.

I want to ask Shade how does he know that he can only contact people that are clean of the dark side.