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  1. 2 minutes ago, OrangeP47 said:

    I guess it probably should say when the rebels OR royals are defeated, but honestly, I guess the rebels *could* pick off indies if they wanted to.  From a GM perspective I'd argue they'd be allowed to do that.  From a "is this a smart thing to do as rebels" perspective, I'd argue it's pretty dumb though, so they won't.  See my comments last night regarding the fact that rebels want to usurp not destroy.  This is of course assuming indies rejoin the normal flow of things upon one faction being defeated, which I see as likely.  I see that whole process as more or less certain individuals having the opportunity to "step aside" and not go down with the ship if the King wants to pull a scorched earth.

    Why should it say once the Rebels are defeated? If the rebels are defeated, only the loyalists and the king are left, pretty sure that means game over? Assuming there's no independents or outside factors like White Walkers.

  2. 1 hour ago, OrangeP47 said:

    I offer the alternative theory that many of us want to build up our own resources, and figured we'd be safer doing that under the "protection" of the royalist banner, rather than joining the rebels where we'd likely have to expend what little we started with.

    Basically. I figured I'd skate by while building up myself to be a strong enough king by the time whoever ended up as the first king lost. From my understanding, it's not like we'll go down with the ship the moment the king dies anyway.

    On 7/15/2019 at 8:22 PM, VERTi60 said:

    If the total Rebellion Force exceeds (aka gets bigger) the total Royal Forces, the current King's reign is over and he or she can decide to step down for new election or keep fighting until eliminated, but other Royal Houses will have the possibility to abandon the Royal faction and become independent (except for the House being the Hand of the King and the House currently having their Lord as King). Independent houses are allowed to attack but they won't have access to exclusive attack actions as the Rebellion ones.

    Once the Rebellion is defeated, the cycle of joining Royal and Rebellion can start again.

    Although after rereading the rules, I can't tell if the rebellion is quelled once the king resigns. I feel like it should otherwise the next king would be forced to abdicate immediately as well.

    But another part that I'd like some clarification on is say there's 5 Rebels and 4 Royals, if the king chooses to fight until he's eliminated while the other two choose to become independent, them it'd be 2/2/5. What's to stop the 5 from picking off the independents and/or controlling the vote so that they kill the king last? It seems like the King resigning is the best option unless he's extremely powerful. Or say they do kill the king, is a new election started? Because it says "Once the Rebellion is defeated." I feel like it should say once the Royal's are defeated. 

  3. 46 minutes ago, OrangeP47 said:

    So where is @TheIrishman and others?

    I stopped checking daily for this game a bit less than a month ago and that's the only reason I visit this site >.>

    I'm all for Shade or Voe being king seeing as either will most likely be deposed right away. That said, I do have full intentions on becoming king myself afterwards. But for now, call me Lord Bronn ;)

  4. I'll be honest, I hate being vanilla wholeheartedly and I think that's one of the reasons many were led to a lack of participation. When you're not able to do anything but think and banter, it can lead to disinterest. That said, I'm glad that I was able to live as long as I could to nail Scum (reading the doc, they were really thinking about killing me...every single night). The only real plus about being vanilla is that I feel more proud as a detective when I figure things out, hence the victory dance ;) When Brigitte first called me out as Town, my first thought was, "She's either the cop or Scum because she initially called me out as Scum and tried to get me lynched." I was a bit worried that Orange might suspect me as Scum and if he did, then we'd lose (Chop too kinda but he was a suspect so his response would've been used to gauge whether he or Brigitte was Scum - while if everyone voted for Mojoman I might've reassessed whether the team was Brigitte and ChopBam). All it would've taken was one Town player not agreeing with me for us to lose. And I wasn't real sure Chop was Town until Brigitte started acting like she did, doing everything possible to change the vote to someone other than Mojo, while fumbling with her logic by keeping Mojo as one of her suspects. Like it was already mentioned, without FRAYDO revealing KY, our win would've been rather unlikely. I agree the setup is balanced. Good job at hosting Jeod and Shade but no accolade for me? Aw...

    Anyway I'm up for whatever game comes next.

  5. 21 hours ago, Mojoman said:

    And then we have Retal who gave both a scum and town read on Orange. I'm going with him saying the town read to throw the scum team off the trail. So if anything we should trust the cop on a scum read at least.

    The Scum read was the first one, which I already explained was either due to Retal copping Cat5 (which is pointless to reveal as the cop) or to prevent Scum from targeting him since his first result was "wrong". His second result was Orange being Town, which he seemed to be inclined to as he had no push of any kind towards Orange. Now that we know that Mojoman/Louis are vanilla Mafia (99% certain it's Mojo over Louis), the last Scum left has to be the Lawyer, meaning - no matter what - Retal couldn't have gotten both a Town and Mafia result on Orange. That along with Brigitte's voting pattern (trying to lynch ChopBam over Mojo when the only two people left as her suspects were those two while Mojo was the one with the overwhelming majority vote) basically proves her to be Scum.

    The only downside to all this is that I'm the most likely one to be nightkilled tonight (I'm the least suspicious and I'm the main one to screw over Scum). But I'm fine with it since we'll win as long as Brigitte is lynched.

    Pre-win victory dance!

    Happy Robot GIF

    But really

    Good Game Gg GIF

    Hopefully it doesn't turn out to be that I'm wrong but I'm 95% sure it's Brigitte at this point.
    But still, fuck you Scum if you actually kill me.
  6. 2 hours ago, Brigitte said:

    If i was the Cop i'd try to cop the same person twice to see if they're the same result, as far as i know, the Lawyer can target the same person every night? Yeah, but his first result was Scum, so most people would move on to another target in hopes that they'd get another Scum player before they're killed as the cop. Yes, there's the chance that he checked on Orange twice, but that'd be him assuming firstly that Orange isn't the lawyer, secondly, that the lawyer would target him. Otherwise there'd be nothing to gain from targeting Orange a second time.

    Are we not posting random cop claims anymore? (reads Irish) I see, so there's no point anymore

    Here's hoping

    Like you said, cop claims are now insignificant, there are no more cops.

    So why would my "cop claim" be taken seriously in any way? you're all scum in my eyes! Deflection

    Mojoman thought he didn't post and made a ton of random posts at the start of today, explaining his previous nights posts, now this isn't me defending my pretend scum mate, but he's not exactly a reliable piece of information (Dude, you're crazy)

    Could it really be that easy? Who knows, Nobody has really been playing this game seriously until Day 3, The amount of shit posting has been ridiculous. Down playing

    We played a cop everybody scenario. 

    Seeing as you're looking at Mojo, and we're day 4 now, you would assume that Mojo has either Town claimed each of his scum mates Mojo didn't make any claims for D1, only for D2 or not gotten any town claims on any scum mates.

    Chopbam didn't do much off your post apart from sacrifice his possible scum mate.

    Was retal Trolling? All signs point to who knows? Does it really though? I already explained my reasoning behind that.

    Orange has honestly been more town then scum this game, and i'm going to, assume, that Retal is a silly bugger and was mucking with the town results to shit post.

    Based on that, It's either Irish (Who has been actually posting Town-Tables this game) - which points him more Town aligned in my eyes. You call me out as being more Town aligned, say that Orange is more Town as well, while also saying you're Town. That's 3/5 leaving only Mojoman and ChopBam as Scum, the fact that you still chose to vote ChopBam over Mojo makes me all the more certain that you're Scum.

    There's me, But I know I'm Town.

    I've predicted both of my town "cops" and I'm happy to walk away with them correctly.

    I'm moving my Vote to Chopbam, He's been pretty shit-posty all game, not been really helping apart from "Ha! KY was scum! I predicted it!" 

    ##Vote Chopbam

    The only thing you've done is made me want to move my vote from Mojoman to you.

    Also, it doesn't really help Mojoman that it's almost been an entire day and yet he still hasn't responded.

  7. 17 minutes ago, Brigitte said:

    lol, retal copped orange both nights so all of that information is useless, unless we take into consideration the lawyer role

    If he was protected Night 2 because of the Night 1 Mafia call, that would explain that.

    I copped Mojo last night and he came up as Mafia

    ##Vote Orange

    Retal probably said that Orange was Scum N1 either to throw Scum off his trail or because he copped Cat5 so his action was useless. And you realize that the whole cop claims are pointless now that the actual cop is dead. But still, you claimed that Mojo is Scum but then voted Orange? And we're all going to have to vote the same player to avoid Scum from winning through a last minute vote change.

    Also @Jeod @Shade do we get a Lylo or Mylo notification if there is one?

  8. Alright, I'm pretty sure that Mojoman and Brigitte or Mojoman and ChopBam are Scum. It's more of an intuition thing and this is one of those moments where I'd normally pull out a gun and correctly daykill a hostile.

    This is assuming Retaliation was actually trolling, because it doesn't make sense for him to not catch Orange if he was targeted by a lawyer N2. I would've jumped all over him, especially on D3 with KY already being outed.

    Players

    Role

    N1

    N2

    N3

    Alignment

    Cat5

    Unknown

    Unknown

    ---

    ---

    Town

    FRAYDO

    Oracle

    ---

    Target KY

    ---

    Town

    Irish

     

    Mojoman - Town

    Brigitte - Town

    ---

    Town

    Mojoman

     

    None?

    Brigitte - Town

    ---

     

    Retaliation

    Cop

    Orange - Mafia

    Orange - Town

    Died

    Town

    Louis

    Miller

    ---

    ---

    ---

    Town

    ChopBam

     

    Killing You – Mafia

    Protect - Orange

     

    ---

     

    Orange

     

    Brigitte - Town

    Retaliation - Town

    ---

     

    Killing You

    Janitor

    ---

    ---

    ---

    Mafia

    Brigitte

     

    Irish - Town

    Retaliation - Town

    ---

     

  9. You guys are forgetting that KY voted to lynch Louis so she's probably the miller >.>

    And Chop, still waiting on your cop report. Although at this rate, we have to hope to hit the lawyer with a cop action since the vanilla mafia one would show up at Town.

    Players

    Role

    N1

    N2

    Alignment

    Cat5

    Unknown

    Unknown

    ---

    Town

    FRAYDO

    Oracle

    ---

    Target KY

    Town

    Irish

     

    Mojoman - Town

    Retaliation - Town

     

    Mojoman

     

    None?

    Brigitte - Town

     

    Retaliation

     

    Orange - Mafia

    Orange - Town

     

    Louis

    Vanilla Mafia or Miller

    Everyone - Mafia

    ---

    ?

    ChopBam

     

    Killing You – Mafia

    Protect - Orange

     

     

    Orange

     

    Brigitte - Town

    Retaliation - Town

     

    Killing You

    Janitor

    ---

    ---

    Mafia

    Brigitte

     

    Irish - Town

    Retaliation - Town

     

     

  10. If I missed anything, let me know.

    Players

    Role

    N1

    Alignment

    Cat5

    Unknown

    Unknown

    Town

    FRAYDO

     

     

     

    Irish

     

    Mojoman - Town

     

    Mojoman

     

     

     

    Retaliation

     

    Orange - Mafia

     

    Louis

     

    Everyone - Mafia

     

    ChopBam

     

    Killing You – Mafia

    Protect - Orange

     

    Orange

     

    Brigitte - Town

     

    Killing You

     

    FRAYDO - Town

     

    Brigitte

     

    Irish - Town

     

  11. 6 hours ago, FRAYDO said:

    I'm half-expecting Irish to step in and make a case for her and push the lynch on someone else. Having said that he was off today, I'm surprised he has not joined today's scumhunting efforts as he said he was going to.

    I expected to be on but it didn't happen, unfortunately.

    As for Louis, I'm not sure. I don't feel that she's done anything really out of the usual (I'm pretty sure she's going to try to kill me in every game with the same fervor as Voe/Nodlied). I mean, due to her being my friend I'd rather not spoil her mafia fun right away but I don't have an actual defense for her since there's not much to defend.

    And my cop claim, Mojoman is Town. I'll try to whip up a chart sometime before hammer.

    Hm...I went back to read all the posts and there's not too much to go off of. That said, I'm mostly suspicious of Fraylied, Robochop, and Orange. They all voted for Cat5 while he was kill N1. It could be a coincidence or it could be that at least one of them is Scum and was trying to get rid of him early. Orange did end up taking off his vote but that doesn't really clear him imo.

  12. 18 minutes ago, Category 5 Hurricane said:

    I agree with FRAYDO. It isn't a shock that TheIrishman survived. It was almost automatic.

    If it wasn't for Shade's luck, prepared defenses could've caused much more chaos in the game, even resulting in my death. Or if I was nightkilled N1 like Orange and Brigitte initially wanted to, FRAYDO blocked me so I would've died.

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