OrangeP47 Posted June 2, 2017 Report Share Posted June 2, 2017 Why are we deadset on the same result? To still catch Misa as rounder? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeod Posted June 2, 2017 Report Share Posted June 2, 2017 3 minutes ago, OrangeP47 said: Why are we deadset on the same result? To still catch Misa as rounder? We don't know what could happen the next night. The bomb threat was a surprise to all of us. We're in the dark, and there's a clear way forward by returning to the original world line. The attractor field has Misa locked in as Rounder #2. Even in the original worldline, when she's lynched, she'll flip the same way. The only difference will be Nodlied is dead and we're able to use our Upas. No bomb threat. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeP47 Posted June 2, 2017 Report Share Posted June 2, 2017 How do we know specific changes with negate the bomb threat? We have enough people, we could pick someone who was fishy back then instead of Nodlied. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeod Posted June 2, 2017 Report Share Posted June 2, 2017 2 minutes ago, OrangeP47 said: How do we know specific changes with negate the bomb threat? We have enough people, we could pick someone who was fishy back then instead of Nodlied. Cat5 just confirmed it. We know TheIrishMan was Rounder #2 on D1. Misa may have been Rounder #1 then. I don't think her alignment changed much between those two days, just as ours didn't change much. But if Misa is lynched on D1, then I'll be lynched on D2, It's just a bigger mess. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeP47 Posted June 2, 2017 Report Share Posted June 2, 2017 I'm not saying lynch Misa D1, if we know TheIrishMan was rounder 1 why don't we vote him D1? Because we don't have enough people to cooperate towards that goal? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeod Posted June 2, 2017 Report Share Posted June 2, 2017 Irish was Rounder #2, not #1. That's why we can't lynch him. It will change Misa's alignment on D2. We also can't lynch Misa, our other suspect on D1 because it will change the D2 lynch. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeP47 Posted June 2, 2017 Report Share Posted June 2, 2017 So then she's *not* locked in in that regard, eh? Honestly it might be simpler to just continue on without time travel and vote who we think it is now normally. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeod Posted June 2, 2017 Report Share Posted June 2, 2017 1 minute ago, OrangeP47 said: So then she's *not* locked in in that regard, eh? Honestly it might be simpler to just continue on without time travel and vote who we think it is now normally. If you're okay with unpredictable events happening at night while we can't use night actions, then sure. Bomb threat last night. Night kills the next perhaps. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeP47 Posted June 2, 2017 Report Share Posted June 2, 2017 Well, I personally held my upas, but yeah, I don't see it as that big a deal. Upas are kind of like the frosting on top of the cake. They're not vital. I don't think we're going to see additional solid night kills. It doesn't make thematic or mechanical sense. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeod Posted June 2, 2017 Report Share Posted June 2, 2017 So you held your upas, a bomb threat was called in, and you brought up the fact that you're a lab leader for today and advocate altering the D1 lynch yet again. You also know, from the day's discussions, that doing so could cause Misa to change her D2 alignment or not even lynch her at all. Quite suspicious. I was going to propose setting up a tie a-la D2 to avoid your death being locked in (recall that Misa is locked in despite my being the first to be lynched on D2 due to the worldline changing before N2 officially began), but I'm having second thoughts about setting up such a plan. If it turns out you are indeed the last Rounder (and the lab leader can be in combination with any of the other roles), then we obviously don't want you to survive. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeP47 Posted June 2, 2017 Report Share Posted June 2, 2017 No, right now, I'm advocating we just do a D3 lynch as normal. TBH, you're quite suspicious yourself, Jeod, but I'm fairly confident you're playing town given all you've done so far. I just think you're going way overboard. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChopBam Posted June 2, 2017 Report Share Posted June 2, 2017 I also think Orange's behavior, claims, and actions are quite suspicious. What's the worst that can happen if we lynch him today? If he flips town can we try time machine tomorrow to set things right? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChopBam Posted June 2, 2017 Report Share Posted June 2, 2017 If he's a town lab leader though this could mess things up. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nodlied Posted June 2, 2017 Report Share Posted June 2, 2017 Well, one way to find out. ##Vote OrangeP47 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeP47 Posted June 2, 2017 Report Share Posted June 2, 2017 I suppose I should put my money where my mouth is. ##Vote Killing_You ChopBam has been my focus up until now, but given the chance changes and his behavior he doesn't strike me as particularly scummy. Killing_You is both afk and was fingered as being on the more scummy side. An alternatives are TheIrishMan again (if Jeod's claim he was caught as D1 rounder are true, but by now his chance has probably changed) I will assure you, while I advise against voting me, I'll use my time travel powers to try and weed out scum in the past. Also, if I get lynched then time changes to make me get un-lynched, it doesn't count for cutting my record short, does it 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeod Posted June 2, 2017 Report Share Posted June 2, 2017 Again, if TheIrishMan is lynched on D1 he will flip Rounder #2. He claimed that was his role in a lab doc. That flip means that Misa will not possibly flip Rounder #2 on D2. Either way, we change the attractor field again and we're no better off. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeod Posted June 2, 2017 Report Share Posted June 2, 2017 @Voe and @TheIrishman, I need you two to submit these actions within a half hour of hammer time. Earlier if you can't make it back within that timeslot. No need to confirm what time you sent them. Voe -> OrangeP47 change D2 vote to Misa TheIrishMan -> Chaos_Knight change D1 vote to Nodlied 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos_Knight Posted June 2, 2017 Report Share Posted June 2, 2017 Well, that's not very subtle Tu-tu-ruu~ 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeod Posted June 2, 2017 Report Share Posted June 2, 2017 No, it isn't, but we don't have a lab doc without Orange in it. If we follow through with this, then there's no way Orange's new D3 D-Mail can change it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheIrishman Posted June 2, 2017 Report Share Posted June 2, 2017 Voe would have to swap actions with me. I already did my D-mail for D2, in case I wasn't able to hop on here. Which I barely was anyway. It doesn't matter who you make vote for Nodlied, as long as he gets the majority. I don't think Killing_You is a good vote considering he investigated himself twice (unless my info is wrong), so he'd be the smallest threat. Going back to the original world line is the best way forward in my opinion, mostly due to Plan S. Back to work I go. ##vote Orange P47 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeod Posted June 2, 2017 Report Share Posted June 2, 2017 2 minutes ago, TheIrishman said: Voe would have to swap actions with me. I already did my D-mail for D2, in case I wasn't able to hop on here. Which I barely was anyway. It doesn't matter who you make vote for Nodlied, as long as he gets the majority. I don't think Killing_You is a good vote considering he investigated himself twice (unless my info is wrong), so he'd be the smallest threat. Going back to the original world line is the best way forward in my opinion, mostly due to Plan S. Back to work I go. ##vote Orange P47 It does matter somewhat. @Voe, make someone who voted themselves swap to Nodlied. I'll choose from those who voted for kamuixmod. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nodlied Posted June 2, 2017 Report Share Posted June 2, 2017 22 minutes ago, Jeod said: It does matter somewhat. @Voe, make someone who voted themselves swap to Nodlied. I'll choose from those who voted for kamuixmod. Just a small thing regarding Voe though. IIRC, he's not at home right now and it's possible that he won't be back in time for the hammer. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeod Posted June 2, 2017 Report Share Posted June 2, 2017 1 minute ago, Nodlied said: Just a small thing regarding Voe though. IIRC, he's not at home right now and it's possible that he won't be back in time for the hammer. Well, you're already voting yourself, but you do have the option of sending the D-Mail instead of Voe. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nodlied Posted June 2, 2017 Report Share Posted June 2, 2017 Explain to me how all of that works. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeod Posted June 2, 2017 Report Share Posted June 2, 2017 1 minute ago, Nodlied said: Explain to me how all of that works. PM Cat5 for an explanation of D-Mail if you don't already have that, then use it to change someone's vote to yourself on D1. Make sure your target is someone voting themselves. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Category 5 Hurricane Posted June 2, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 2, 2017 You guys have about 53 minutes left. Don't have a vote count yet, but remember, failing to vote counts as a vote for yourself! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos_Knight Posted June 2, 2017 Report Share Posted June 2, 2017 Can we get a CVC please? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FRAYDO Posted June 2, 2017 Report Share Posted June 2, 2017 I got nothing. Earlier I considered a vote on Orange, but I'm still hesistant. I certainly don't want to place a vote on myself so I'm going with my gut feeling on who I think would flip Organization if lynched today. ##vote ChopBam It's as ChopBam says, 2 hours ago, ChopBam said: What's the worst that can happen if we lynch him today? If he flips town can we try time machine tomorrow to set things right? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Category 5 Hurricane Posted June 2, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 2, 2017 VOTES: IF YOU DO NOT VOTE, YOUR VOTE WILL BE COUNTED AS CAST ON YOURSELF ORANGEP47 - 3 (JEOD, NODLIED, THEIRISHMAN) KILLING_YOU - 1 (ORANGEP47) CHOPBAM - 1 (FRAYDO) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeP47 Posted June 2, 2017 Report Share Posted June 2, 2017 Ha, FRAYDO just made you a lier! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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