Category 5 Hurricane Posted January 25, 2018 Report Share Posted January 25, 2018 And I'm not talking about any of the needless drama. Gamewise, he's my strongest scum read now. About the only pairing where I wouldn't care who has initiative would be Nodlied vs Jeod, because there may be some significant value in flipping Nodlied. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheIrishman Posted January 25, 2018 Report Share Posted January 25, 2018 Just now, Category 5 Hurricane said: I don't think I want him to have so much of a chance at winning a duel against any of the other people who have been proposed. Fair, he's one of the top Scum suspects (if not the top), but it's just so disheartening to see someone give up like that so I figured the risk was worth it, especially if we paired him up against Voe, who should be able to defend himself well. Oh well. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheIrishman Posted January 25, 2018 Report Share Posted January 25, 2018 Yeah, Nodlied would be my next choice. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Category 5 Hurricane Posted January 25, 2018 Report Share Posted January 25, 2018 For the guys who have participated in duels, is there really any advantage in going first? Does it kinda level out after a while? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeP47 Posted January 25, 2018 Report Share Posted January 25, 2018 Going second doesn't seem to be the end of the world. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Category 5 Hurricane Posted January 25, 2018 Report Share Posted January 25, 2018 I guess the main risk comes in when you're facing someone who might have the ability to take you down in one hit. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeP47 Posted January 25, 2018 Report Share Posted January 25, 2018 3 minutes ago, Category 5 Hurricane said: I guess the main risk comes in when you're facing someone who might have the ability to take you down in one hit. Yeah, some of the top level abilities might be like that. Honestly most we've seen are pretty defensive so far. I have one defensive ability, and then force bolt, which I showed off in the practice duel against Shade. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheIrishman Posted January 25, 2018 Report Share Posted January 25, 2018 Just now, OrangeP47 said: Going second doesn't seem to be the end of the world. There's 3 main advantages. 1. You get to use a Force Power while they have none. (The biggest advantage, especially if we end up unlocking OHKO moves) 2. You get to use your Maneuver Form while they have none. (but remember that it uses more stamina) 3. You can use the Offensive Stance while they have to use the default, meaning when their turn starts, they'll have only 75 or 80 Stamina, but you'll be completely open and down to a minimum of 40-50 stamina. This one isn't really much of an advantage. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeP47 Posted January 25, 2018 Report Share Posted January 25, 2018 Oh yes, forms. Forgot about that because honestly I hate the form I have. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeod Posted January 25, 2018 Report Share Posted January 25, 2018 8 hours ago, Category 5 Hurricane said: Then the fact that Jeod is reacting so negatively to something that should be good news for town suggests to me that he's unhappy about it. And people who should be unhappy about it include: Shitstains. Nobody else. No matter who dies during this duel, we'd be almost certain to learn something useful. I expected you of all people to understand my reasons for it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeod Posted January 25, 2018 Report Share Posted January 25, 2018 Anyway, my decision to resign is not "needless drama". I have a reason for it and I stand by it. I appreciate the requests to stay and duel, and the comparison to Shade, but Shade and I are willing to give up for entirely different reasons. I feel confident in my dueling ability, but ethically I do not wish to continue. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunflower Posted January 25, 2018 Report Share Posted January 25, 2018 I think it'd be better not to put Orange in the duel this round just because with the unique situation, we'll learn a lot about him after this night phase. If Shade doesn't contact someone, there's a good chance that he's lying. If Shade does contact someone, it's almost total confirmation that he's a Jedi. I think it would make a lot more sense and we'd learn a lot more if we put other players in this turn's duel. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunflower Posted January 25, 2018 Report Share Posted January 25, 2018 Cat 5 made a good point about Voe being able to maybe cleanse his Fear if he wins the duel, so I think I'm gonna go with that. ##vote champion Voe 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunflower Posted January 25, 2018 Report Share Posted January 25, 2018 Also, there's another reason why I think we should have a volunteer for the force ghost contact. Yeah, it's more dangerous for the volunteer, but without a volunteer, we run the risk of two people claiming to be contacted by Shade and muddying the waters. It would pretty much confirm to whoever's telling the truth that the liar is a Sith, but it'd be hard to prove it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VERTi60 Posted January 25, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 25, 2018 11 hours ago, Killing_You said: ##vote champion Orange [Vote Counted] Killing You voted OrangeP47 to be the Champion in the Duel! 10 hours ago, TheIrishman said: ##vote Sith Jeod [Vote Counted] TheIrishman voted Jeod to be the Sith in the Duel! 29 minutes ago, Sunflower said: ##vote champion Voe [Vote Counted] Sunflower voted Voe to be the Champion in the Duel! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FRAYDO Posted January 25, 2018 Report Share Posted January 25, 2018 I dunno, I'm with Jeod on this one. I'm a bit skeptical on this Force Ghost thing. On one hand, I can see there is a big advantage to staying absolutely true to the Light side. You can even call it a reward for being a good Jedi and not dabbling into the Dark Side. On the other hand, besides it costing FP (as I am assuming) and only being able to contact uncorrupted Jedi, what can the Sith do to combat that? Maybe a hard-counter NFA is needed for them? It's a question of balance for me. More to the topic, it's too big of a claim for Orange to be lying. I have to ask, does it work the same way as a Holo-doc in that it's open for the Council Meeting? What stops Shade from just sticking with Orange for the remainder of the game since Orange is, by his claim, an uncorrupted Jedi and therefore able to maintain communications? There's the prospect that Jedi can be corrupted as evidenced by Voe and therefore Orange would then a prime target to cut off the Force Ghost, but then that's too risky a move for Sith. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Category 5 Hurricane Posted January 25, 2018 Report Share Posted January 25, 2018 ##vote champion Category5 ##vote Sith Jeod Voting myself champion because I want to get a vote in, but I don't want to influence who gets champ between Voe, Orange, or Retal. Off to work. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeod Posted January 25, 2018 Report Share Posted January 25, 2018 Actually, if I'm to be forced to duel, I'd like to face Nodlied. Otherwise I intend to surrender. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeod Posted January 25, 2018 Report Share Posted January 25, 2018 ##vote Sith Nodlied 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FRAYDO Posted January 25, 2018 Report Share Posted January 25, 2018 For me it's a toss-up between Voe and allowing him the opportunity to free himself of the Dark Side corruption (assuming he wants to, mind you), and seeing Ramboliation in action. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killing_You Posted January 25, 2018 Report Share Posted January 25, 2018 Personally, I'd rather put up two people that we could stand to learn from. I'd like to hear who other people want in the duel based on this line of reasoning. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FRAYDO Posted January 25, 2018 Report Share Posted January 25, 2018 While I'm currently convinced Orange is Town, I'm still suspicious of Nodlied despite the findings. Jeod's willingness to face Nodlied tells me he may be on to something too. As much as Jeod would want to, however, my vote goes again to Rambo with this reasoning to back up my decision: 18 hours ago, Retaliation said: I've thought about it and I don't think I trust Jeod enough to be champion (also he can't fight himself). I'm also slowly coming to the realization that I don't have much to offer but combat skills. ##champion Retaliation ##vote Champion Retaliation and ##vote Sith Nodlied 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeP47 Posted January 25, 2018 Report Share Posted January 25, 2018 The force ghost is like the holo doc, in that it's only open for the council phase, to answer the question. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeP47 Posted January 25, 2018 Report Share Posted January 25, 2018 I'm leaning towards Voe as champion. Can he be champion and we still purge him of dark side? Didn't someone say they had that ability? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VERTi60 Posted January 25, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 25, 2018 2 hours ago, Category 5 Hurricane said: ##vote champion Category5 ##vote Sith Jeod [Vote Counted] Category 5 voted Category 5 to be the Champion in the Duel! [Vote Counted] Category 5 voted Jeod to be the Sith in the Duel! 1 hour ago, Jeod said: ##vote Sith Nodlied [Vote Counted] Jeod voted Nodlied to be the Sith in the Duel! 1 hour ago, FRAYDO said: ##vote Champion Retaliation ##vote Sith Nodlied [Vote Counted] FRAYDO voted Retaliation to be the Champion in the Duel! [Vote Counted] FRAYDO voted Nodlied to be the Sith in the Duel! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeP47 Posted January 25, 2018 Report Share Posted January 25, 2018 To make more work for Verti. ##vote champion Voe I trust Voe more than Retal, though I have a null read on Retal. There's a chance Voe will get the ability to purge that dark side with his winning ability, though no guarantee he gets the same as Irish. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VERTi60 Posted January 25, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 25, 2018 5 minutes ago, OrangeP47 said: ##vote champion Voe [Vote Counted] OrangeP47 voted Voe to be the Champion in the Duel! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VERTi60 Posted January 25, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 25, 2018 Since we're closing to the Duel Phase, everyone please check your votes to be sure. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retaliation Posted January 25, 2018 Report Share Posted January 25, 2018 I am fine with Voe being our champion if he is willing. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunflower Posted January 25, 2018 Report Share Posted January 25, 2018 I'd like confirmation at some point about whether I'm going to be the volunteer for force ghost thing. Protecting myself is going to be intensive and put me at a major disadvantage in the future, and I don't want to do it unless I know there's a good reason. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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