OrangeP47 Posted February 11, 2018 Report Share Posted February 11, 2018 Just now, Retaliation said: I don't know if I've mentioned this in thread, but the reason I like Irish on lockdown is that I don't think I can kill him if he's had a chance to rest :v. Well we could always human wave to reduce his FP, but that's a long, long journey We're not exactly having him on lockdown, he's free to do whatever, unless someone has an action I don't know about that's actually locking him down or something 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retaliation Posted February 11, 2018 Report Share Posted February 11, 2018 Just now, OrangeP47 said: Well we could always human wave to reduce his FP, but that's a long, long journey We're not exactly having him on lockdown, he's free to do whatever, unless someone has an action I don't know about that's actually locking him down or something You can't do anything when you've dueled that night. Can't rest, can't use force powers, can't learn. Nothing. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeP47 Posted February 11, 2018 Report Share Posted February 11, 2018 Just now, Retaliation said: You can't do anything when you've dueled that night. Can't rest, can't use force powers, can't learn. Nothing. And unless we duel Irish again, he's free to do whatever THIS COMING NIGHT. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retaliation Posted February 11, 2018 Report Share Posted February 11, 2018 If you die Orange... ## vote champion Orange ##vote sith Chopbam Watch out for dark power nonsense he could have learned when only using mind meld. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeP47 Posted February 11, 2018 Report Share Posted February 11, 2018 I guess this is how it's going to be. ##vote champion OrangeP47 ##vote sith Chopbam 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VERTi60 Posted February 11, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 11, 2018 7 minutes ago, Retaliation said: ## vote champion Orange ##vote sith Chopbam [Vote Counted] Retaliation voted OrangeP47 to be the Champion in the Duel! [Vote Counted] Retaliation voted ChopBam to be the Sith in the Duel! 5 minutes ago, OrangeP47 said: ##vote champion OrangeP47 ##vote sith Chopbam [Vote Counted] OrangeP47 voted OrangeP47 to be the Champion in the Duel! [Vote Counted] OrangeP47 voted ChopBam to be the Sith in the Duel! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunflower Posted February 11, 2018 Report Share Posted February 11, 2018 I'm not sure about this Orange champion idea. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retaliation Posted February 11, 2018 Report Share Posted February 11, 2018 Yeah I had a rethink, and I think we're just putting voe in harms way if he's town. Voe is pretty vulnerable to the 2 point corruption scum has demonstrated. We also know there has to be a third scum, because if Irish isn't lying there's someone who can mess with investigation results. ##vote champion Chopbam ##vote sith Irish 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunflower Posted February 11, 2018 Report Share Posted February 11, 2018 I mean I'm not 100% that Voe is a Jedi, but I'm just pretty sure that he couldn't have killed Fraydo based on the 90 FP he used. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChopBam Posted February 11, 2018 Report Share Posted February 11, 2018 Sorry I don't have a lot of time again today (yesterday none at all, extremely busy with work most weekends). But I don't think Orange vs me is a good idea. I'm 95% sure he's town so we'd only be moving even closer to a sith win no matter who is the victor. KY wanted me to point you guys back to his own views here that seem to have been overlooked: He also believes dark force actions cost force points, even if following the dark side to learn DFA doesn't. One of the best evidences of this is Jeod's force choke action costing -1 during combat. I've never dueled, so I'm unaware of duel bonuses. How do they work? Does it mean Irish could have actually used it to lop off FRAYDO's remaining health even though he was "locked down" in post-duel? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retaliation Posted February 11, 2018 Report Share Posted February 11, 2018 The only rewards for winning a duel I've seen are second level form maneuvers (you saw Irish use one) and the one time use super rest. I suppose dark force users might get a different bonus. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunflower Posted February 11, 2018 Report Share Posted February 11, 2018 Is the light meditation the same thing as the one time use super rest? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheIrishman Posted February 11, 2018 Report Share Posted February 11, 2018 Just now, Sunflower said: Is the light meditation the same thing as the one time use super rest? yes, it fully heals and purges the Dark Side. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VERTi60 Posted February 11, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 11, 2018 27 minutes ago, Retaliation said: ##vote champion Chopbam ##vote sith Irish [Vote Counted] Retaliation voted ChopBam to be the Champion in the Duel! [Vote Counted] Retaliation voted TheIrishman to be the Sith in the Duel! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeod Posted February 11, 2018 Report Share Posted February 11, 2018 Just now, VERTi60 said: [Vote Counted] Retaliation voted ChopBam to be the Champion in the Duel! [Vote Counted] Retaliation voted TheIrishman to be the Sith in the Duel! Hey God, mind tending to your purgatory? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunflower Posted February 11, 2018 Report Share Posted February 11, 2018 Well I guess being the person that told us about Light Meditation from the first duel might be something in Irish's favor. Would sith players even get a light meditation from a duel? I'm not sure. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunflower Posted February 11, 2018 Report Share Posted February 11, 2018 Why did Fraydo not use his light meditation? That makes no sense. I remember him saying something like he was told he wasn't allowed to rest or something. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunflower Posted February 11, 2018 Report Share Posted February 11, 2018 Is it possible that Fraydo was a sith (therefore not having light meditation) and that he was killed by his own partner for some reason? I'm so confused. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeP47 Posted February 11, 2018 Report Share Posted February 11, 2018 40 minutes ago, ChopBam said: Sorry I don't have a lot of time again today (yesterday none at all, extremely busy with work most weekends). But I don't think Orange vs me is a good idea. I'm 95% sure he's town so we'd only be moving even closer to a sith win no matter who is the victor. KY wanted me to point you guys back to his own views here that seem to have been overlooked: He also believes dark force actions cost force points, even if following the dark side to learn DFA doesn't. One of the best evidences of this is Jeod's force choke action costing -1 during combat. I've never dueled, so I'm unaware of duel bonuses. How do they work? Does it mean Irish could have actually used it to lop off FRAYDO's remaining health even though he was "locked down" in post-duel? 12 minutes ago, Sunflower said: Why did Fraydo not use his light meditation? That makes no sense. I remember him saying something like he was told he wasn't allowed to rest or something. I bet even sith are locked down and can't use actions for one night. FRAYDO, on the other hand, if he got killed *before* he had a chance to act, would have been killed before he had a chance to use his light meditation. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeP47 Posted February 11, 2018 Report Share Posted February 11, 2018 Chop: If not you, if not Voe, we're back to Irish, and we need someone that can actually defeat him. I'm not sure we have someone that can, but if not Voe, that just leaves us with Retal. Is that what you're thinking. I mean, I get it, people don't like the options we have on the table, but if you reject an option you should always provide an alternative. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunflower Posted February 11, 2018 Report Share Posted February 11, 2018 Oh wait. The Light Meditation is an ability you gain that you can use at any time? If so, and assuming Fraydo used it, that means we have a full night kill on our hands. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeP47 Posted February 11, 2018 Report Share Posted February 11, 2018 Just now, Sunflower said: Oh wait. The Light Meditation is an ability you gain that you can use at any time? If so, and assuming Fraydo used it, that means we have a full night kill on our hands. That is a good point. FRAYDO may well have healed and been killed anyway. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheIrishman Posted February 11, 2018 Report Share Posted February 11, 2018 Just now, Retaliation said: I don't know if I've mentioned this in thread, but the reason I like Irish on lockdown is that I don't think I can kill him if he's had a chance to rest :v. I don't know how preventing me from resting when I already have full HP would affect my combat chances. I have 67 FP, the most FP I could spend in a round is 18. I could still perform all my actions 3 times with 13 FP left over. That's assuming I'd even need to use all my FP and forgetting Enlarge Force which can recover up to 9 FP per duel >.> And "locking me down" means I can't use Sense Force, not that I have a particularly great track record with it. If anything, me using abilities would lower my FP during the night and decrease my odds at winning in a duel. I don't think it'd be wise to put ChopBam into the ring since he's been recently proven to be Town. I still think Orange and Voe are our most conspicuous players. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunflower Posted February 11, 2018 Report Share Posted February 11, 2018 Well how could Orange or Voe have killed Fraydo? Chop, who you think is town, says that his mind meld failed on Orange. So that suggests that Orange used hibernation trance and he only used 10 FP. Voe used 90 FP and he didn't learn a t3 ability before. How could he use 90 FP and kill Fraydo? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunflower Posted February 11, 2018 Report Share Posted February 11, 2018 Btw, since Orange said he was going to use hibernation trance, that means that Chop actively chose to use mind meld on someone that he knew it was going to fail on. I guess the only thing that could do is confirm that Orange used it? It's still weird. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeP47 Posted February 11, 2018 Report Share Posted February 11, 2018 ##Vote Champion ChopBam ##Vote Sith TheIrishMan I think we need to just put up our two most strongest sith reads and let the votes lay where they fail. Sunflower has galvanized me (not that I thought I myself was sith, I know what I am obviously), but it's clear to me that the obvious sith wants me in the duel. Therefore, I should not be in the duel. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retaliation Posted February 11, 2018 Report Share Posted February 11, 2018 26 minutes ago, TheIrishman said: I don't know how preventing me from resting when I already have full HP would affect my combat chances. I have 67 FP, the most FP I could spend in a round is 18. I could still perform all my actions 3 times with 13 FP left over. That's assuming I'd even need to use all my FP and forgetting Enlarge Force which can recover up to 9 FP per duel >.> And "locking me down" means I can't use Sense Force, not that I have a particularly great track record with it. If anything, me using abilities would lower my FP during the night and decrease my odds at winning in a duel. I don't think it'd be wise to put ChopBam into the ring since he's been recently proven to be Town. I still think Orange and Voe are our most conspicuous players. Ok fine. If you're town you should surrender so we stop wasting our time on you. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunflower Posted February 11, 2018 Report Share Posted February 11, 2018 Just now, Retaliation said: Ok fine. If you're town you should surrender so we stop wasting our time on you. #seppuku? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunflower Posted February 11, 2018 Report Share Posted February 11, 2018 Is there any reason why I should suspect Retal? Because if not I don't see how Fraydo's killer could be anyone other than Chop or Irish. ...I mean I guess it could be Jeod but that would be one scary force ghost. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retaliation Posted February 11, 2018 Report Share Posted February 11, 2018 I think there's some things you could call me out on. Suspected Jeod, but played soft. Didn't reveal shade until later. Argued against going after Irish at first in favor of KY. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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