Jeod Posted March 19, 2019 Report Share Posted March 19, 2019 11 minutes ago, Killing_You said: Jeod, what is your primary, out of curiosity? No need to say. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brigitte Posted March 19, 2019 Report Share Posted March 19, 2019 ##Rocket KillingYou Shade or Irish need to fight him today I'm leaning more towards Irish for Scum seeing as the heal was verified. ( I think?) ##Trainer TheIrishMan ##EarlyHammer (Can this get added to CVC) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brigitte Posted March 19, 2019 Report Share Posted March 19, 2019 2 hours ago, Retaliation said: Anyway looks like losing articuno counts as a faint as well. Details? I assume Articuno was stolen? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retaliation Posted March 19, 2019 Report Share Posted March 19, 2019 2 minutes ago, Brigitte said: Details? I assume Articuno was stolen? Someone used a master ball on articuno and if I lose another pokemon I'm out. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeod Posted March 20, 2019 Report Share Posted March 20, 2019 7 minutes ago, Retaliation said: Someone used a master ball on articuno and if I lose another pokemon I'm out. Which makes @Shade939 healing Houndoom a priority. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killing_You Posted March 20, 2019 Report Share Posted March 20, 2019 Unfortunately, the Master Ball thing was a one-time gimmick, and Town managed to keep me from using it when I wanted to. I did say that I was getting another legendary, though, didn't I? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brigitte Posted March 20, 2019 Report Share Posted March 20, 2019 7 minutes ago, Killing_You said: Town managed to keep me from using it when I wanted to. Hm? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killing_You Posted March 20, 2019 Report Share Posted March 20, 2019 Just now, Brigitte said: Hm? Losing Wartortle meant I didn't have the coins to use it the night that it unlocked. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brigitte Posted March 20, 2019 Report Share Posted March 20, 2019 Did you pick the 'mon? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killing_You Posted March 20, 2019 Report Share Posted March 20, 2019 Indeed I did. Why do you ask? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeP47 Posted March 20, 2019 Author Report Share Posted March 20, 2019 CVC Irish (3) leads for trainers Killing_You (4) leads for rocket 2/4 Early Hammer Current Active players 1. TheIrishman - Cat 5/trainer, Killing_You/rocket 2. Jeod - Irish/trainer, Killing_You/rocket 3. Retaliation - Irish/trainer, Killing_You/rocket 4. Shade939 - no votes 5. Killing_You - no votes 6. Brigitte - Irish/trainer, Killing_You/rocket 7. Cat 5 - no votes 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brigitte Posted March 20, 2019 Report Share Posted March 20, 2019 11 minutes ago, Killing_You said: Indeed I did. Why do you ask? trying to see how it works. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheIrishman Posted March 20, 2019 Report Share Posted March 20, 2019 5 hours ago, Jeod said: Rather he didn't, since having that be public knowledge prevents scum from having to ensure they don't accidentally slip by trying to avoid a specific battle. Can you please explain this? Because it feels like it'd help us more than Scum. 5 hours ago, Jeod said: I only have one life left, and I have a choice between using Miltank or Jolteon for the double battle tomorrow. Jolteon can match Mewtwo in speed, so if it doesn't go down today, then I'll lean Jolteon tomorrow. On the other hand, Miltank's physical moves would be better to counter Reflect. Better to counter Reflect? 6 hours ago, Shade939 said: No, the point is to eliminate Rocket from the game, not to systematically throw Town against KY because no one is even willing to see if the investigation results are sane or not.. I agree with this, which is one of the reasons I feel like Cat5 or Brigitte would be more appropriate, but the other point I raised is being ignored. I'm not voting early hammer because I work till 6 hours after the potential hammer tomorrow and Cat5 opens so he won't be on until maybe an hour before the potential hammer. But I do have Thursday off, so if I do battle, I'd prefer it to be then. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shade939 Posted March 20, 2019 Report Share Posted March 20, 2019 10 minutes ago, TheIrishman said: I agree with this, which is one of the reasons I feel like Cat5 or Brigitte would be more appropriate, but the other point I raised is being ignored. I'm not voting early hammer because I work till 6 hours after the potential hammer tomorrow and Cat5 opens so he won't be on until maybe an hour before the potential hammer. But I do have Thursday off, so if I do battle, I'd prefer it to be then. I'll raise a counterpoint in how many Rocket members do you think we have in this game? KY is also a Rocket Executive, so he's the strongest Rocket member in game, which is also probably why we have two investigation results pointing at him instead of just one. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheIrishman Posted March 20, 2019 Report Share Posted March 20, 2019 Just now, Shade939 said: I'll raise a counterpoint in how many Rocket members do you think we have in this game? KY is also a Rocket Executive, so he's the strongest Rocket member in game, which is also probably why we have two investigation results pointing at him instead of just one. I feel like it's 3 right now, still leaning towards KY, Jeod, and Brigitte, but the Lv 50 MewTwo makes me question Cat5 more so. I mean Cat5 was attacked while your ability seemed to confirm it, but KY claimed it was random and he hit what seemed like a useless pokemon for Cat5 but then he manages to hit Retaliation's Houndoom, the main pokemon that could counter MewTwo? At the very least, I'm not sure it's random. The highest level MewTwo should've been is Lv 40, yet he was Lv 50. So there's a few possibilities. One, Cat5 used his double training on KY without telling us, maybe publicly training everyone on odd days while privately double training Scum on even days, or maybe Cat5 trained KY on the night Cat5 lost - N6 - so he could claim he didn't train anyone (I just double checked that D6 is when it should've hatched so it would work out). Two, MewTwo started at a higher level, maybe even Lv 50, but that would mean Brigitte lied unless MewTwo was Lv 40 two nights ago and just trained up to Lv 50 that night. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shade939 Posted March 20, 2019 Report Share Posted March 20, 2019 5 minutes ago, TheIrishman said: I feel like it's 3 right now, still leaning towards KY, Jeod, and Brigitte, but the Lv 50 MewTwo makes me question Cat5 more so. I mean Cat5 was attacked while your ability seemed to confirm it, but KY claimed it was random and he hit what seemed like a useless pokemon for Cat5 but then he manages to hit Retaliation's Houndoom, the main pokemon that could counter MewTwo? At the very least, I'm not sure it's random. The highest level MewTwo should've been is Lv 40, yet he was Lv 50. So there's a few possibilities. One, Cat5 used his double training on KY without telling us, maybe publicly training everyone on odd days while privately double training Scum on even days, or maybe Cat5 trained KY on the night Cat5 lost - N6 - so he could claim he didn't train anyone (I just double checked that D6 is when it should've hatched so it would work out). Two, MewTwo started at a higher level, maybe even Lv 50, but that would mean Brigitte lied unless MewTwo was Lv 40 two nights ago and just trained up to Lv 50 that night. And how do you think Town can win at this point based on there three Rocket members in it including KY as one of them? Unless a rocket member is actually eliminated today it's possible that Town will completely lose control of the day vote. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheIrishman Posted March 20, 2019 Report Share Posted March 20, 2019 The best way would be to whittle them down by forcing them to fight each other, while the Investigations gave us the chance to find out Scum and make them fight each other. But 3 does make it pretty difficult for us to win, granted they have to eliminate all of us. If there are only 2 Scum, then the investigation results would have to be insane when KY did them, clearing Jeod and either Brigitte or Cat5. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shade939 Posted March 20, 2019 Report Share Posted March 20, 2019 4 minutes ago, TheIrishman said: The best way would be to whittle them down by forcing them to fight each other, while the Investigations gave us the chance to find out Scum and make them fight each other. But 3 does make it pretty difficult for us to win, granted they have to eliminate all of us. If there are only 2 Scum, then the investigation results would have to be insane when KY did them, clearing Jeod and either Brigitte or Cat5. They only have to get us to fight each other instead of them, or have KY eliminate us with his legendaries. Honestely, given the four investigation results there's no way they can be insane and that's what they revealed to us. You're telling me the only two sane results point to the exact same person? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheIrishman Posted March 20, 2019 Report Share Posted March 20, 2019 3 minutes ago, Shade939 said: They only have to get us to fight each other instead of them, or have KY eliminate us with his legendaries. Honestely, given the four investigation results there's no way they can be insane and that's what they revealed to us. You're telling me the only two sane results point to the exact same person? That's why we should have our main suspects fight against KY. I'm saying that if there are only two Scum then the results that KY gave would have to be insane since it pointed towards 3 different people. And if there are only two, then Cat5 and Brigitte would still be at the forefront of suspicion. So either way we'd be sending either Cat5 or Brigitte against KY while Cat5 said he'd have a decent chance of winning since he has both advantages. So if we send Cat5 and he wins, whether he's Scum or not, there's a dead MewTwo. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeod Posted March 20, 2019 Report Share Posted March 20, 2019 6 hours ago, TheIrishman said: Can you please explain this? Because it feels like it'd help us more than Scum. No, I can't. Better to counter Reflect? Yes. I agree with this, which is one of the reasons I feel like Cat5 or Brigitte would be more appropriate, but the other point I raised is being ignored. I'm not voting early hammer because I work till 6 hours after the potential hammer tomorrow and Cat5 opens so he won't be on until maybe an hour before the potential hammer. But I do have Thursday off, so if I do battle, I'd prefer it to be then. Boo. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheIrishman Posted March 20, 2019 Report Share Posted March 20, 2019 So assuming KY is telling the truth and he took Articuno, how exactly is he going to avoid a specific battle by making the moveset public knowledge so that we can appropriately counter? No one's ever mentioned anything about Reflect, so why are you particularly worried about it? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeod Posted March 20, 2019 Report Share Posted March 20, 2019 I’m curious about why you’re so worried about Articuno’s moveset. Reflect is a good move to put on Mewtwo. Did you think I was talking about Articuno? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheIrishman Posted March 20, 2019 Report Share Posted March 20, 2019 2 minutes ago, Jeod said: I’m curious about why you’re so worried about Articuno’s moveset. Reflect is a good move to put on Mewtwo. Did you think I was talking about Articuno? I thought you were initially but I looked it up, MewTwo can't learn Reflect in Gen 2, if anything you must've been worried about Articuno since Reflect can only be naturally learned in Gen 2. So if Articuno has Reflect, how would you know? And the other problem is...Reflect doubles physical defense, yet you said Miltank would counter Reflect? That makes no sense. Miltank would be a horrible counter to Reflect. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheIrishman Posted March 20, 2019 Report Share Posted March 20, 2019 I thought you were talking about MewTwo initially* 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shade939 Posted March 20, 2019 Report Share Posted March 20, 2019 1 minute ago, TheIrishman said: I thought you were initially but I looked it up, MewTwo can't learn Reflect in Gen 2, if anything you must've been worried about Articuno since Reflect can only be naturally learned in Gen 2. So if Articuno has Reflect, how would you know? And the other problem is...Reflect doubles physical defense, yet you said Miltank would counter Reflect? That makes no sense. Miltank would be a horrible counter to Reflect. Reflect isn't a TM in gen 2. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheIrishman Posted March 20, 2019 Report Share Posted March 20, 2019 Just now, Shade939 said: Reflect isn't a TM in gen 2. I know now, I just said that it can only be naturally learned >.> 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeod Posted March 20, 2019 Report Share Posted March 20, 2019 I’m glad you fell into my trap, Irish, as only a player with knowledge of Articuno’s moveset would notice such a minor detail and turn it into a big issue. Yes I’m aware of Reflect’s status in gen2 and what it does. I chose to phrase the opposite to see who would call it out. You see, I’m on Retaliation’s Radio Show. And we decided to set a trap. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeod Posted March 20, 2019 Report Share Posted March 20, 2019 In simpler terms, why would a player without a connection to Reflect bother to look it up and research it? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shade939 Posted March 20, 2019 Report Share Posted March 20, 2019 Just now, TheIrishman said: I know now, I just said that it can only be naturally learned >.> It's a TM in other games like gen 3 for example, so this is basically the only gen. where MewTwo can't learn it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheIrishman Posted March 20, 2019 Report Share Posted March 20, 2019 It literally says here https://www.serebii.net/pokedex-gs/150.shtml https://www.serebii.net/pokedex-gs/144.shtml 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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