ChopBam Posted September 23, 2019 Report Share Posted September 23, 2019 8 minutes ago, iLikeToSnipe said: So I'm opportunist for being the primary person pushing the case against you when you have obvious evidence against you? No, you're opportunist if you're scum. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iLikeToSnipe Posted September 23, 2019 Report Share Posted September 23, 2019 Just now, ChopBam said: No, you're opportunist if you're scum. Well, the phrasing of your post was that myself and Cat5 were opportunistic for pushing you as being scum because of the 1-UP. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChopBam Posted September 23, 2019 Report Share Posted September 23, 2019 Just now, iLikeToSnipe said: Well, the phrasing of your post was that myself and Cat5 were opportunistic for pushing you as being scum because of the 1-UP. Ok. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Category 5 Hurricane Posted September 23, 2019 Report Share Posted September 23, 2019 1 minute ago, iLikeToSnipe said: Well, the phrasing of your post was that myself and Cat5 were opportunistic for pushing you as being scum because of the 1-UP. And that's been a consistent theme for him, given that he claimed Nodlied was framing him. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Category 5 Hurricane Posted September 23, 2019 Report Share Posted September 23, 2019 Who all had roleblocking actions? Just Nodlied and ChopBam? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Category 5 Hurricane Posted September 23, 2019 Report Share Posted September 23, 2019 Oh, and Mojoman as well. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killing_You Posted September 23, 2019 Report Share Posted September 23, 2019 Just now, Category 5 Hurricane said: Who all had roleblocking actions? Just Nodlied and ChopBam? Mojoman as well. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iLikeToSnipe Posted September 23, 2019 Report Share Posted September 23, 2019 Just now, Category 5 Hurricane said: Who all had roleblocking actions? Just Nodlied and ChopBam? Mojo had one too. Technically me depending on who I have copied. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Category 5 Hurricane Posted September 23, 2019 Report Share Posted September 23, 2019 If Louis has an action to stop roleblocks, who is she helping then? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Category 5 Hurricane Posted September 23, 2019 Report Share Posted September 23, 2019 iLTS, do you know for sure he can use that action at night? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iLikeToSnipe Posted September 23, 2019 Report Share Posted September 23, 2019 2 minutes ago, Category 5 Hurricane said: If Louis has an action to stop roleblocks, who is she helping then? I could see her role being both town or scum. I'm not sure who would find it more beneficial, but my first thought is that it's scum who gets the most benefit. 1 minute ago, Category 5 Hurricane said: iLTS, do you know for sure he can use that action at night? Nodlied? He could only use it at night. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Category 5 Hurricane Posted September 23, 2019 Report Share Posted September 23, 2019 No, I mean ChopBam. You know his full action set, right? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iLikeToSnipe Posted September 23, 2019 Report Share Posted September 23, 2019 Just now, Category 5 Hurricane said: No, I mean ChopBam. You know his full action set, right? Correct. His copy ability is only a night action and does roleblock the player who is copied. Only one ability can be gained from it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Category 5 Hurricane Posted September 23, 2019 Report Share Posted September 23, 2019 Alright, so at least we know he isn't lying about it. For a moment I was considering that all roleblocks were not on the mafia side. However, as you're going to lynch me I'm going to add a bit of information I've been hiding, as it may be relevant for Louis vs Mojoman. That gif I'm using as my avatar is one I made myself using footage from my copy of the game. I specifically made it because I wanted her holding a Rapier. I have a Rapier as my item. I can roleblock people who target me as long as I'm holding it. So, in the case where ChopBam and Louis are the scum team, there are three roleblocks outside of the scum team, and a scum member who has never proven to use her ability has the ability to undo a roleblock. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Category 5 Hurricane Posted September 23, 2019 Report Share Posted September 23, 2019 Louis would specifically give scum a way to kill me. And of course ChopBam has his own method. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FRAYDO Posted September 23, 2019 Report Share Posted September 23, 2019 Despite the suspicions in my masonry with iLTS, I am now feeling more confident in Cat5. ##vote Louis 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Category 5 Hurricane Posted September 23, 2019 Report Share Posted September 23, 2019 I almost would prefer that you lynch me anyway at this point, just to prove what I've been saying is true. Now that I've revealed my trump card, I can't expect to use it. However, should I survive I should get another chance to prove my role. I might just pass the Rapier away as well, see if someone else can use it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FRAYDO Posted September 23, 2019 Report Share Posted September 23, 2019 The two who have trust in me are welcome to change their votes. I am currently on the Chop/Louis scum team. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killing_You Posted September 23, 2019 Report Share Posted September 23, 2019 9 minutes ago, Category 5 Hurricane said: Alright, so at least we know he isn't lying about it. For a moment I was considering that all roleblocks were not on the mafia side. However, as you're going to lynch me I'm going to add a bit of information I've been hiding, as it may be relevant for Louis vs Mojoman. That gif I'm using as my avatar is one I made myself using footage from my copy of the game. I specifically made it because I wanted her holding a Rapier. I have a Rapier as my item. I can roleblock people who target me as long as I'm holding it. So, in the case where ChopBam and Louis are the scum team, there are three roleblocks outside of the scum team, and a scum member who has never proven to use her ability has the ability to undo a roleblock. That's a hell of a game changer. ##unvote I don't feel like voting Louis just yet, however. I want to get a more detailed case down first. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iLikeToSnipe Posted September 23, 2019 Report Share Posted September 23, 2019 13 minutes ago, Category 5 Hurricane said: Alright, so at least we know he isn't lying about it. For a moment I was considering that all roleblocks were not on the mafia side. However, as you're going to lynch me I'm going to add a bit of information I've been hiding, as it may be relevant for Louis vs Mojoman. That gif I'm using as my avatar is one I made myself using footage from my copy of the game. I specifically made it because I wanted her holding a Rapier. I have a Rapier as my item. I can roleblock people who target me as long as I'm holding it. So, in the case where ChopBam and Louis are the scum team, there are three roleblocks outside of the scum team, and a scum member who has never proven to use her ability has the ability to undo a roleblock. One thing to remember is that Nodlied was Third Party, even though he acted like town. So that would give one roleblock to each faction. With that in mind, I don't really see her role as being an indicator of her alignment. I'm still suspicious of her given ChopBam's supposed validation, but that could also just be him trying to get a town member on his side. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FRAYDO Posted September 23, 2019 Report Share Posted September 23, 2019 2 minutes ago, Category 5 Hurricane said: I almost would prefer that you lynch me anyway at this point Should Cat5 be lynched, I want the world and Fódlan to know that Edelgard did nothing wrong. *Fire Emblem fluff post 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Category 5 Hurricane Posted September 23, 2019 Report Share Posted September 23, 2019 1 minute ago, iLikeToSnipe said: One thing to remember is that Nodlied was Third Party, even though he acted like town. Indeed, however roleblocks are more dangerous for a scum team than for town. A missing NK and a claimed roleblock is a really quick way to get taken down. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nodlied Posted September 23, 2019 Report Share Posted September 23, 2019 Just now, FRAYDO said: Should Cat5 be lynched, I want the world and Fódlan to know that Edelgard did nothing wrong. *Fire Emblem fluff post Fucking weeb. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Category 5 Hurricane Posted September 23, 2019 Report Share Posted September 23, 2019 I'm going to point out another thing as this is relevant to me questioning what happened with the 1-Up getting to ChopBam. Despite me having an item that roleblocks people that target me, I still had an item passed to me. This suggested to me at the time that passing items does not get effected by roleblocks. ChopBam's claim that he can't pass the 1-UP effectively counters that idea, however. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FRAYDO Posted September 23, 2019 Report Share Posted September 23, 2019 ##unvote Something still doesn’t sit right. I’m thinking Chop’s clearing of her was a ploy to gain a townie on his side. Whatever angle I’m looking at, ChopBam is undoubtedly scum. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Category 5 Hurricane Posted September 23, 2019 Report Share Posted September 23, 2019 Yeah, I'm not very sure on Mojo vs Louis myself. I only really started considering Louis after the claim that she was roleblocked. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FRAYDO Posted September 23, 2019 Report Share Posted September 23, 2019 Sorry, masonry pal. I wanted to hear some thoughts on this possibility. What do we think of a Chop/iLTS scum team? Both would have to be playing very good scum to be pulling this off as they may be now. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Category 5 Hurricane Posted September 23, 2019 Report Share Posted September 23, 2019 On the surface level I feel like such a thing is pretty unlikely. I feel like that if iLTS were scum, Mojoman would be the partner. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killing_You Posted September 23, 2019 Report Share Posted September 23, 2019 Here's where I'm at; Everything points to Chop being scum. Everything also points to there being two scum members. However, I'm having trouble rationalizing who that scummate is. It's definitely not FRAYDO, and my gut tells me it's not Mojo (scum team having a warp star PLUS a one-time lynchproof passive AND three members total? That's crazy imbalanced). iLikeToSnipe came into the game late, and opened by trying to build a case on Chop based on him skimming over some important info, which I don't think would happen if they were a scum team together. For me, that leaves either Louis or Category 5, and I'm having trouble deciding. There's a case for Cat5, but his responses today and the reveal of his item make me doubt this possibility. As for Louis... I don't think there's a strong enough case there. At least not yet. 2 minutes ago, Category 5 Hurricane said: On the surface level I feel like such a thing is pretty unlikely. I feel like that if iLTS were scum, Mojoman would be the partner. That could be an interesting possibility worth looking into. We'll have to assume that the 1UP didn't come from Verti at all if this is the case, however. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FRAYDO Posted September 23, 2019 Report Share Posted September 23, 2019 I cannot get behind any lynch that isn’t ChopBam. I am willing to wait for him to come back and have him lynched outright tomorrow than mislynch today. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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