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[GAME OVER] Apocalypse Rising Mafia II: Dark Night


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Just now, Retaliation said:

I like how everyone's acting like FRAYDO is a dead man when everyone but me unvoted :v

Indeed... Technically I never voted for him in the first place, but I do think he should be given a chance to defend himself, he has just done so inadequately.

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1 minute ago, OrangeP47 said:

Indeed... Technically I never voted for him in the first place, but I do think he should be given a chance to defend himself, he has just done so inadequately.

Right, I think it would be totally possible that it's just a coincidence that the NK didn't happen while FRAYDO was roleblocked, but the way FRAYDO explained it doesn't match what I think he should have said in this situation. I'm mostly withholding the vote at this point on the off chance that something else comes up that might be another explanation.

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Just now, OrangeP47 said:

Indeed... Technically I never voted for him in the first place, but I do think he should be given a chance to defend himself, he has just done so inadequately.

That's what I was doing when Shade revealed he blocked FRAYDO. Yeah it looked bad, but I wanted to look at mojo today and it's not like that's the only explanation right? Except now we know I was wrong about rhino protection and it doesn't look like coolrock found the mirage tank.

I'm also paranoid from last game about a Shade/FRAYDO team and this is some galaxy brain attempt to WIFOM us into not voting him.

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1 minute ago, Retaliation said:

That's what I was doing when Shade revealed he blocked FRAYDO. Yeah it looked bad, but I wanted to look at mojo today and it's not like that's the only explanation right? Except now we know I was wrong about rhino protection and it doesn't look like coolrock found the mirage tank.

I'm also paranoid from last game about a Shade/FRAYDO team and this is some galaxy brain attempt to WIFOM us into not voting him.

How would this work out as a Shade/FRAYDO team?  This is almost exactly like me saying a Louis/Orange team would be stupid D1.

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Just now, OrangeP47 said:

How would this work out as a Shade/FRAYDO team?  This is almost exactly like me saying a Louis/Orange team would be stupid D1.

Shade claims roleblocker and then FRAYDO claims he was roleblocked. It's so dumb, but is it really that different from the "confessor" last game?

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Just now, Category 5 Hurricane said:

It is different, because the claim as it stands would lead directly to a FRAYDO lynch. Not really a good plan as a Shade/FRAYDO scum team.

Orange pretending he was targeted by an ability that didn't exist was supposed to make Orange look like he wasn't mafia.

Thank you for actually explaining when I was blanking on how to do so.

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HOWEVER, one question I have is "Does the flavor of the roleblock really get revealed to the target?", and if such a strategy could work IF the NK was supposed to happen some other way. So, maybe the plan was to fake it but they failed to bail out of that strat.

But that problem would resolve itself the next time Shade blocks someone...so...not much risk in leaving that thought to the side.

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5 minutes ago, Retaliation said:

First RA2 mafia the roleblock was described to me as being "zapped". Then FRAYDO uses it to describe Shade's roleblock when I don't think I revealed how it was described anywhere.

I probably didn't stop the NK, so FRAYDO doesn't want to lie about actually being  roleblocked, instead scum hit the TP and mistakenly believed that the Rhino Tank might speak up about having stopped the kill instead and giving him an out, despite the fact he's still a mafia member.

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1 minute ago, ChopBam said:

@Shade939 Can you remind us why you chose FRAYDO?

He made a push for me yesterday without backing it up himself with actions. And his push was based on taking my actions out of the context they were happening in.

Plus it's N1, you don't have much to go on other than things like that.

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