OWA Posted October 10, 2015 Report Share Posted October 10, 2015 Windows 10 now! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marc12polo3 Posted February 20, 2016 Report Share Posted February 20, 2016 Combination of Windows 10 and Arch Linux. If possible at all I run things mostly on Arch Linux nowadays. How did you if at all make it run under wine on Arch? thanks 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omar007 Posted February 26, 2016 Report Share Posted February 26, 2016 I hadn't managed to get the launcher to run under Wine. The games I had no issue with (for the time I've played anyway). Since there is no other way to get the game files than through the launcher, I grabbed the installed files from a Windows installation. After that is was just a matter of running the executable. I should probably try and pick this up again to see how things are now with Wine. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raap Posted February 26, 2016 Report Share Posted February 26, 2016 (edited) Update your shit to Windows 10 (if you're a Windows user), staying behind does nobody any good. Upgrading is free... Just disable all the spy shit. If the W3D tools and games can for some reason not handle a new OS, then it simply means game over. Edited February 26, 2016 by Raap 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChopBam Posted February 26, 2016 Report Share Posted February 26, 2016 Update your shit to Windows 10, staying behind does nobody any good.It certainly does me some good, since I prefer using Windows 7. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raap Posted February 26, 2016 Report Share Posted February 26, 2016 Update your shit to Windows 10, staying behind does nobody any good.It certainly does me some good, since I prefer using Windows 7. At some point, new applications will stop supporting Windows 7. That's what I'm trying to suggest, you're not helping yourself by staying on an old OS version for too long. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChopBam Posted February 26, 2016 Report Share Posted February 26, 2016 I see what you're saying, but "too long" is a really relative term and could mean "upgrade immediately" or "upgrade at the last minute before ALL support stops." Some of us aren't always installing new applications, and some of us like using old applications for whatever reason. I guess the biggest supporting example of this would be 3DS Max 8 and LevelEdit. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raap Posted February 26, 2016 Report Share Posted February 26, 2016 I see what you're saying, but "too long" is a really relative term and could mean "upgrade immediately" or "upgrade at the last minute before ALL support stops." Some of us aren't always installing new applications, and some of us like using old applications for whatever reason. I guess the biggest supporting example of this would be 3DS Max 8 and LevelEdit. I'm not disagreeing with you in this case. But I personally do use new applications outside of W3D related stuff, so my opinion is just different. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein Posted February 26, 2016 Report Share Posted February 26, 2016 (From my PC tech standpoint) I suggest at least upgrading with a temporary install so that you get your free upgrade before this coming July when that promotional offer ends. You can just make a temp install to get your PC registered and then go back to using 7 or 8.1 until you're ready to move to 10. Its worth it I promise. And for you folks that must have the windows 7 start menu (myself included), this software is worth every penny! http://startisback.com/ Extremely configurable with cool stuff that far surpasses the standard menu if you like that type thing. If not, then you can just have a plain old win7 menu. Enjoy! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raap Posted February 26, 2016 Report Share Posted February 26, 2016 (From my PC tech standpoint) I suggest at least upgrading with a temporary install so that you get your free upgrade before this coming July when that promotional offer ends. You can just make a temp install to get your PC registered and then go back to using 7 or 8.1 until you're ready to move to 10. Its worth it I promise. And for you folks that must have the windows 7 start menu (myself included), this software is worth every penny! http://startisback.com/ Extremely configurable with cool stuff that far surpasses the standard menu if you like that type thing. If not, then you can just have a plain old win7 menu. Enjoy! The Windows 10 start menu isn't that much different from Windows 7. Windows 8... We don't speak of it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SarahNautili Posted February 26, 2016 Report Share Posted February 26, 2016 why pay money for a start menu program when Classic Shell exists? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein Posted February 26, 2016 Report Share Posted February 26, 2016 Simple. Because startisback is made better and has more capability. I realize that isn't for everyone, and by all means try them all to see what you like. Classic shell is good too, I just prefer startisback. In my line of work, its easier to sell someone (referring to a business that I would do service work for) on a software that has professional options (such as volume licensing) and is more configurable, rather than a free program. Lots of businesses don't see something you don't have to pay for as being worth using and will often times simply write free stuff off without looking into them. They can't see past the "free" stereotype. Speaking from experience. We're not talking about folks that care enough to learn anything about what they're using or could use, tech-wise. They just want to pay someone to make it work as simply as possible, and if you tell them "oh yeah here's this free thing" then they might write you off too lol. But yeah, there are a ton of programs that fall into this category. Classic shell would probably fall in as #2 in my mind. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raap Posted February 26, 2016 Report Share Posted February 26, 2016 Simple. Because startisback is made better and has more capability. I realize that isn't for everyone, and by all means try them all to see what you like. Classic shell is good too, I just prefer startisback. In my line of work, its easier to sell someone (referring to a business that I would do service work for) on a software that has professional options (such as volume licensing) and is more configurable, rather than a free program. Lots of businesses don't see something you don't have to pay for as being worth using and will often times simply write free stuff off without looking into them. They can't see past the "free" stereotype. Speaking from experience. We're not talking about folks that care enough to learn anything about what they're using or could use, tech-wise. They just want to pay someone to make it work as simply as possible, and if you tell them "oh yeah here's this free thing" then they might write you off too lol. But yeah, there are a ton of programs that fall into this category. Classic shell would probably fall in as #2 in my mind. Always be careful with "free" stuff. The general rule is, if you're not the buyer, someone else is. (And guess what they are buying? You.) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein Posted February 26, 2016 Report Share Posted February 26, 2016 Exactly. And if something goes awry, I can get support for a paid program much easier than I can get it for a freebie in most cases. Which is good because as you hinted, my own hide is on the line. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChopBam Posted February 26, 2016 Report Share Posted February 26, 2016 There are all sorts of great freeware programs out there. Why pay for a third party app when I can do the same function with freeware that I'm already familiar with? Imgburn, teracopy, everything search engine, faststone image viewer, daemon tools lite, etc. Why pay for support when I don't need it? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raap Posted February 26, 2016 Report Share Posted February 26, 2016 There are all sorts of great freeware programs out there. Why pay for a third party app when I can do the same function with freeware that I'm already familiar with? Imgburn, teracopy, everything search engine, faststone image viewer, daemon tools lite, etc. Why pay for support when I don't need it? Different people got different needs, thoughts, opinions... etc. I think I got nothing left to add here, I didn't want this to turn into a discussion! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein Posted February 26, 2016 Report Share Posted February 26, 2016 There are all sorts of great freeware programs out there. Why pay for a third party app when I can do the same function with freeware that I'm already familiar with? Imgburn, teracopy, everything search engine, faststone image viewer, daemon tools lite, etc. Why pay for support when I don't need it? Simple. Because startisback is made better and has more capability. I realize that isn't for everyone [.....] In my line of work, its easier to sell someone (referring to a business that I would do service work for) on a software that has professional options (such as volume licensing) and is more configurable, rather than a free program. Lots of businesses don't see something you don't have to pay for as being worth using and will often times simply write free stuff off without looking into them. They can't see past the "free" stereotype. Speaking from experience. We're not talking about folks that care enough to learn anything about what they're using or could use, tech-wise. They just want to pay someone to make it work as simply as possible, and if you tell them "oh yeah here's this free thing" then they might write you off too lol. Different people got different needs, thoughts, opinions... etc. I think I got nothing left to add here, I didn't want this to turn into a discussion! Right, we've done a superb job at derailing this Time to go home everyone 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isaac The Madd Posted February 26, 2016 Report Share Posted February 26, 2016 For some strange reason LeveEdit still does not want to read from scripts.dll. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein Posted February 26, 2016 Report Share Posted February 26, 2016 Right thread buddy? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isaac The Madd Posted February 27, 2016 Report Share Posted February 27, 2016 It is sort of on topic, but mostly it is offtopic. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raap Posted February 27, 2016 Report Share Posted February 27, 2016 Hold on until the updated tool set, it'll fix your problem most likely. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isaac The Madd Posted March 2, 2016 Report Share Posted March 2, 2016 Why does this page keep getting marked as having new posts when it does not. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moonsense715 Posted March 2, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 2, 2016 Because new votes were added. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyryle Posted March 2, 2016 Report Share Posted March 2, 2016 I'm pretty surprised for as long as this thread has existed, nobody on here has XP/Vista as their main OS. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeamWolf Posted March 2, 2016 Report Share Posted March 2, 2016 Which pretty much proved that moving to 5.0 won't hinder any of the playerbase, from what we can see anyway. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SarahNautili Posted March 2, 2016 Report Share Posted March 2, 2016 5.0? Scripts 5.0? Since I've been out of the w3d loop for so many years, mind if I ask what's new/different with those? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moonsense715 Posted March 2, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 2, 2016 5.0? Scripts 5.0? Since I've been out of the w3d loop for so many years, mind if I ask what's new/different with those? Windows XP support is dropped since scripts 5.0, which APB is currently on (and the internal test builds of some other W3D Hub games). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plokite_Wolf Posted March 3, 2016 Report Share Posted March 3, 2016 For a 9x-capable engine, that's ridiculous. Must be that the Scripts team just wants the newest VS builds just so they can say it's the newest (as it's not actually needed for the W3D engine). VS 2012 Update 1 has XP target support, and I'd love to see how many things one can do with that rather than VS 2026. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein Posted March 3, 2016 Report Share Posted March 3, 2016 VS 2026. VS 2026. 2026 GREAT SCOTT!!! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saberhawk Posted March 6, 2016 Report Share Posted March 6, 2016 For a 9x-capable engine, that's ridiculous. Must be that the Scripts team just wants the newest VS builds just so they can say it's the newest (as it's not actually needed for the W3D engine). VS 2012 Update 1 has XP target support, and I'd love to see how many things one can do with that rather than VS 2026. Thanks for all the code you've contributed over the years. I thought you would have noticed by now that the 5.0 codebase uses features like non-static data member initializers, variadic templates, static_assert, delegating constructors, and deleted functions; all of which are new to VS2013, still work with the XP toolchain, and are rather useful. Something else used that's incredibly useful is D3D9Ex; it simplifies video resource handling significantly by not requiring you to keep track of all resources to recreate them from scratch on alt-tab. Unfortunately that requires an operating system written in the past decade, go figure. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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