Retaliation Posted December 1, 2017 Report Share Posted December 1, 2017 Here's something I've been thinking about. World tension increased by 25% in one night. Shade says the ability they used on KY reduces world tension by 10% if KY is scum. I don't think it's reasonable for scum to be able to jack up world tension by 35% in one night. So I think KY has a point. It didn't proc which means KY can't be scum. ##unvote This basically leaves you all with one suspicious soviet player: Me. I don't really have any defense I can make for myself. It's a big part of why I've been a bit dismissive of the case against me along with a belief that town shouldn't be overly concerned with cases against themselves. I also have a roleclaim that is as liable to get me lynched as it is save me, I'm going to steal a play from Irish here: I know I'm town. So Shade has to be lying if there's one soviet scum which also implies he's probably not lying about KY. He also seems mighty eager to paint chopbam as LeMay like he's setting up for a later lynch. I think his accusation that I'm trying to get myself lynched is kind of weird. I don't think that's a scenario a new player would think of on their own. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeP47 Posted December 1, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 1, 2017 1 minute ago, Retaliation said: Here's something I've been thinking about. World tension increased by 25% in one night. Shade says the ability they used on KY reduces world tension by 10% if KY is scum. I don't think it's reasonable for scum to be able to jack up world tension by 35% in one night. So I think KY has a point. It didn't proc which means KY can't be scum. ##unvote This basically leaves you all with one suspicious soviet player: Me. I don't really have any defense I can make for myself. It's a big part of why I've been a bit dismissive of the case against me along with a belief that town shouldn't be overly concerned with cases against themselves. I also have a roleclaim that is as liable to get me lynched as it is save me, I'm going to steal a play from Irish here: I know I'm town. So Shade has to be lying if there's one soviet scum which also implies he's probably not lying about KY. He also seems mighty eager to paint chopbam as LeMay like he's setting up for a later lynch. I think his accusation that I'm trying to get myself lynched is kind of weird. I don't think that's a scenario a new player would think of on their own. Vote counted! CVC World Tension is at 40 Nodlied voted no one Jeod voted no one TheIrishman voted no one FRAYDO voted no one ChopBam voted no one Killing_You voted Retaliation Shade voted no lynch Retaliation voted no one Mojoman voted no one Retaliation and no lynch lead with 2/9 votes cast! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killing_You Posted December 1, 2017 Report Share Posted December 1, 2017 Okay this is going to bug me. Shade, I demand you take your vote on nolynch down. Unvote or put your vote on your best scumread. I don't care which. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shade939 Posted December 1, 2017 Report Share Posted December 1, 2017 1 minute ago, Killing You said: Okay this is going to bug me. Shade, I demand you take your vote on nolynch down. Unvote or put your vote on your best scumread. I don't care which. I would rather not, if I'm right and lynching a Scum member also raises WT by 15 points, then by tomorrow morning if I'm wrong about using my ability on Irish, then scum will have 80 points at the start of day 3, and we probably won't be able to kill the other two Scum members before WT hits 100. If we don't lynch anyone today, then they don't gain those 15 points so for Day 3 Scum need 35 points in order to win instead of just 20. Which does naturally make me suspicious of anyone who's suggesting any form of lynching at this time. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killing_You Posted December 1, 2017 Report Share Posted December 1, 2017 Maybe you misunderstood me. Take your vote off of nolynch. That's an order. Nolynch gives scum a free nightkill and we learn nothing. And how would lynching Scum heighten World Tension? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retaliation Posted December 1, 2017 Report Share Posted December 1, 2017 Just now, Killing You said: Maybe you misunderstood me. Take your vote off of nolynch. That's an order. Nolynch gives scum a free nightkill and we learn nothing. And how would lynching Scum heighten World Tension? More importantly we have no alternative win condition. We can only win by killing scum and the only way we can kill scum is by lynching! ##vote Shade 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shade939 Posted December 1, 2017 Report Share Posted December 1, 2017 Just now, Killing You said: Maybe you misunderstood me. Take your vote off of nolynch. That's an order. Nolynch gives scum a free nightkill and we learn nothing. And how would lynching Scum heighten World Tension? Admittedly, this is probably the part where I am being overly paranoid, but I believe that the passive Scum ability that my role was meant to counteract would also proc off of other Scum members dieing. Which is also my reasoning for suspecting that the Scum team might try sacrificing their own members for an easy win. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killing_You Posted December 1, 2017 Report Share Posted December 1, 2017 So you stand firm in your vote on nolynch, then? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeP47 Posted December 1, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 1, 2017 Just now, Retaliation said: More importantly we have no alternative win condition. We can only win by killing scum and the only way we can kill scum is by lynching! ##vote Shade Vote Counted! CVC World Tension is at 40 Nodlied voted no one Jeod voted no one TheIrishman voted no one FRAYDO voted no one ChopBam voted no one Killing_You voted Retaliation Shade voted no lynch Retaliation voted Shade Mojoman voted no one Retaliation, Shade, and no lynch lead with 3/9 votes cast! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shade939 Posted December 1, 2017 Report Share Posted December 1, 2017 Just now, Killing You said: So you stand firm in your vote on nolynch, then? Based on my current reasoning yes, it makes more sense to play with the WT loss condition in mind since that would occur before Scum could win by night killings, if the passive does function like I think it does. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killing_You Posted December 1, 2017 Report Share Posted December 1, 2017 You leave me no choice. ##Bang Shoe Shade 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeP47 Posted December 1, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 1, 2017 1 minute ago, Killing You said: You leave me no choice. ##Bang Shoe Shade Action Processed! CVC World Tension is at 40 Nodlied voted no one Jeod voted no one TheIrishman voted no one FRAYDO voted no one ChopBam voted no one Killing_You voted Retaliation Shade cannot vote Retaliation voted Shade Mojoman voted no one Retaliation and Shade lead with 2/8 votes cast! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retaliation Posted December 1, 2017 Report Share Posted December 1, 2017 A shoe! Will never live up to cane meta though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retaliation Posted December 1, 2017 Report Share Posted December 1, 2017 I also believe that confirms you are town as well KY. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shade939 Posted December 1, 2017 Report Share Posted December 1, 2017 2 minutes ago, OrangeP47 said: Action Processed! CVC World Tension is at 40 Nodlied voted no one Jeod voted no one TheIrishman voted no one FRAYDO voted no one ChopBam voted no one Killing_You voted Retaliation Shade cannot vote Retaliation voted Shade Mojoman voted no one Retaliation and Shade lead with 2/8 votes cast! I'm fairly certain it's supposed to be the other way around for my character though... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killing_You Posted December 1, 2017 Report Share Posted December 1, 2017 How so? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeP47 Posted December 1, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 1, 2017 1 minute ago, Shade939 said: I'm fairly certain it's supposed to be the other way around for my character though... His day action removes your ability to vote for this day. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shade939 Posted December 1, 2017 Report Share Posted December 1, 2017 You guy's really aren't paying attention to what my character did during the Cuban Missile Crisis. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retaliation Posted December 1, 2017 Report Share Posted December 1, 2017 If it's not you, KY, or me, then all scum are capitalist swine. Which is a possibility since we have all anti war soviets. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shade939 Posted December 1, 2017 Report Share Posted December 1, 2017 1 minute ago, Shade939 said: You guy's really aren't paying attention to what my character did during the Cuban Missile Crisis. Vasili Arkhipov for those who want a way to google a bit faster. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killing_You Posted December 1, 2017 Report Share Posted December 1, 2017 Shade, please explain what you think was supposed to have happened. As for the historical significance of your character, frankly I don't care. I will not tolerate a nolynch past D1. Even on D1 I'm super hesitant to allow it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shade939 Posted December 1, 2017 Report Share Posted December 1, 2017 Just now, Killing You said: Shade, please explain what you think was supposed to have happened. As for the historical significance of your character, frankly I don't care. I will not tolerate a nolynch past D1. Even on D1 I'm super hesitant to allow it. Exactly what did happen, it's just ironic since this is roughly the exact opposite of the historical event my character took part in during the crisis. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shade939 Posted December 1, 2017 Report Share Posted December 1, 2017 28 minutes ago, Killing You said: You leave me no choice. ##Bang Shoe Shade Well, on the plus side, if that doesn't prove your character I don't know what will, so it's guaranteed that my ability didn't proc N1 now. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shade939 Posted December 1, 2017 Report Share Posted December 1, 2017 25 minutes ago, Killing You said: Shade, please explain what you think was supposed to have happened. As for the historical significance of your character, frankly I don't care. I will not tolerate a nolynch past D1. Even on D1 I'm super hesitant to allow it. Also, to make it clear, that was an attempt at a joke on my part about the irony of my character losing a vote against two fellow Soviets. It wasn't any sort of condemnation or defense against your decision based on who my character is in this game is. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mojoman Posted December 1, 2017 Report Share Posted December 1, 2017 Bang Shoe? Wat. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killing_You Posted December 1, 2017 Report Share Posted December 1, 2017 Just now, Mojoman said: Bang Shoe? Wat. I banged my shoe on the floor of the UN Assembly, directing attention to me and away from my target, revoking his vote for the day. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retaliation Posted December 1, 2017 Report Share Posted December 1, 2017 Shoe is official soviet business Amerikanski scum. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheIrishman Posted December 1, 2017 Report Share Posted December 1, 2017 2 hours ago, Jeod said: I watched TheIrishMan last night. Nobody visited him. I'll believe you for now, but can you talk some more, Jeod? You're one of the more vocal players I know and you help keep things fun. At least the game is more fun to me the more active players are. 2 hours ago, Killing You said: Also, Irish, did you get a notification about Jeod's visit? No, I did not, which could mean he's lying or that Orange just decided to not inform us. 2 hours ago, Shade939 said: Ok, so locked simply means they didn't do anything and weren't role blocked or anything like that, thanks for the clarification on that. Not quite, you didn't play Nodlied's game but in it certain players could have locked abilities, which means the player can't use their abilities until WT reaches a certain level. In some cases you would only be told that the WT needs to be higher and aren't given a specific WT threshold. I was saying that my stuff was unusable and since that's the case, I didn't do anything last night. 2 hours ago, Shade939 said: As I did state, my theory was based largely around my role and it's abilities and the assumptions I've made based on it. Even if I do suspect you three, I can use my ability to investigate Irishman and depending on what happens to WT, I can fairly easily disprove my own theory at the start of D3. I'd rather you target Retaliation or KY since they're the main scum suspects right now, but if this will help bring the investigation back on track, go for it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mojoman Posted December 1, 2017 Report Share Posted December 1, 2017 22 minutes ago, Killing You said: I banged my shoe on the floor of the UN Assembly, directing attention to me and away from my target, revoking his vote for the day. Must be one of those vintage memes I've heard about 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killing_You Posted December 1, 2017 Report Share Posted December 1, 2017 9 minutes ago, TheIrishman said: No, I did not, which could mean he's lying or that Orange just decided to not inform us. Well, I didn't get notified of Shade's visit either, so it seems to me that visitors aren't reported. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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