Popular Post Squid Empire Posted January 31, 2015 Popular Post Report Share Posted January 31, 2015 To me Tiberian Sun is the C&C game that stands out the most as the most artistically complete and unique. Two years ago I wrote an essay on the way the future is depicted in the game, and it still captures my attention more than any other RTS on an artistic level. Tiberian sun to me is a slower and more meditative game than most, even when it's a frantic firefight; the sheer oppressiveness, of the apocalyptic setting oozes from the sprites and the audio, and flows over the action masking it and slowing it. It is this game, and it's soundtrack, that has caused me uncomfortable day-dreams of a blighted landscape, and that inspired my apocalyptic art-y student film. The theme, setting, and execution blend better than any other post-apocalyptic text I've ever come across, and form what is to me a genuinely haunting and simultaneously beautiful image of a human world. The game's simple sprites and storyline are almost sidelines to the world it presents, which causes its own imagined scenes to take place. Images of soldiers patrolling in a dusty blighted landscape, the distant lights of their base obscured and dimmed by ionic clouds and dust. A large metal door seals shut at night, leaving a lone troop stuck in the wasteland outside, the stars above are motionless as his breathing echoes in his helmet. The cover image of the soldier, his eyes obscured by a cyber-punk mask, itself oppressive and built from necessity, staring out with an expression of stoic duty or patience, but perhaps his eyes are tearful and he stands alone in a field of fatal crystals? Tiberian Sun to me is a hauntingly perfect depiction of a desperate world and humanities place on it. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enduar Posted February 1, 2015 Report Share Posted February 1, 2015 Tib Sun is one of the most atmospheric games I've ever played which is bizarre looking back on, because of all genres RTS is probably the most difficult to establish a lasting, impacting atmosphere due to the player's detached perspective/presence- Part of the reason I've always pressured the makers of Reborn to consider a singleplayer portion exploring the desolate world through the eyes of an individual. That concept becomes much more terrifying and real when you consider the fact that creatures like the Tiberium Fiend were roughly the size of a tank and were, to an individual soldier, an impossibly dangerous nightmare. I spent a year or so writing up a pitch for a singleplayer campaign set in the Tib Sun/Firestorm setting following the story of a Nod soldier who undergoes repeated cybernetic ressurections over the course of the campaign, losing his humanity, focusing on stealth and environmental survival mechanics. The idea wouldn't pan out well in W3D well I think, so I moved on trying to pitch it to other projects. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shnappz Posted February 2, 2015 Report Share Posted February 2, 2015 I never really rated TS... not sure why, i just couldn't get into it. Nice words though enjoyed reading it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NodGuy Posted February 3, 2015 Report Share Posted February 3, 2015 The atmosphere, the artistic style, the world that is Tiberian Sun is perfect to me. I wouldn't change a thing. That's the main reason I disliked the following games set in the same Universe, they did not capture it correctly, in my opinion anyway. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bfranx Posted February 3, 2015 Report Share Posted February 3, 2015 I'm a little disappointed by TS, but only because it never reached its full potential. There were so many amazing things they planned to add but never did. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squid Empire Posted February 3, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 3, 2015 Now with a video! ... that for some reason won't embed! Here's a direct link (sorry) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein Posted February 3, 2015 Report Share Posted February 3, 2015 Awesome video! Could totally make a series like BTP with stuff like this 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NodGuy Posted March 1, 2015 Report Share Posted March 1, 2015 I just replayed the Nod campaign for C&C3 and KW. I really, really despise the theme of Nod. It got so damn religious. Constantly referring to Kane as the "prophet" and Tiberium as the "sacred green crystal." I cringed every time. If I had 1 wish for video-games, it would be that Westwood broke free of EA's shackles after TS and proceeded to make Tiberian Incursion. CABAL returns and wants to assimilate humanity and the Scrin? Fuck yeah! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plokite_Wolf Posted March 1, 2015 Report Share Posted March 1, 2015 (edited) I just replayed the Nod campaign for C&C3 and KW. I really, really despise the theme of Nod. It got so damn religious. Constantly referring to Kane as the "prophet" and Tiberium as the "sacred green crystal." I cringed every time.Nod was ridden with religious fanaticism since the beginning. If I had 1 wish for video-games, it would be that Westwood broke free of EA's shackles after TS and proceeded to make Tiberian Incursion.Even if they still existed, they'd Duke Nukem Forever their games, like they almost did with Tiberian Sun before EA took them over. Edited March 1, 2015 by Plokite_Wolf 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NodGuy Posted March 1, 2015 Report Share Posted March 1, 2015 I just replayed the Nod campaign for C&C3 and KW. I really, really despise the theme of Nod. It got so damn religious. Constantly referring to Kane as the "prophet" and Tiberium as the "sacred green crystal." I cringed every time.Nod was ridden with religious fanaticism since the beginning. If I had 1 wish for video-games, it would be that Westwood broke free of EA's shackles after TS and proceeded to make Tiberian Incursion.Even if they still existed, they'd Duke Nukem Forever their games, like they almost did with Tiberian Sun before EA took them over. Last time I played Tiberian Dawn and Tiberian Sun, it was not filled with religious themes like C&C3 is. And we'll never know what would of happened if Westwood was still around. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plokite_Wolf Posted March 1, 2015 Report Share Posted March 1, 2015 (edited) And we'll never know what would of happened if Westwood was still around.Very true, considering their tendency to postpone their games to no end and still deliver something very buggy. Edited March 1, 2015 by Plokite_Wolf 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rackz Posted March 2, 2015 Report Share Posted March 2, 2015 more videos please rdally nice done! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralCamo Posted March 2, 2015 Report Share Posted March 2, 2015 C&C Renegade (Made by the ORIGINAL westwood studios) had just as much (if not MORE) religious fanaticism in Nod as C&C3. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isaac The Madd Posted July 2, 2015 Report Share Posted July 2, 2015 (edited) Can we talk about boats and how they were meant to be in tiberian sun, but was not included (kind of like the forgotten were meant to be playable) because of EA rushing the game out after they bought westwood(the juggernaut was supposed to be a combination of the titan and their naval artillery). Edited July 2, 2015 by Isaac The Madd 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeviousDave Posted July 4, 2015 Report Share Posted July 4, 2015 Can we talk about boats and how they were meant to be in tiberian sun, but was not included (kind of like the forgotten were meant to be playable) because of EA rushing the game out after they bought westwood(the juggernaut was supposed to be a combination of the titan and their naval artillery). You forgot to play your.... So I played it for you... to keep the mods happy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isaac The Madd Posted July 5, 2015 Report Share Posted July 5, 2015 But seriously I love Tiberian Sun and I am kind of sad that we will never see most of the missing features. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plokite_Wolf Posted July 5, 2015 Report Share Posted July 5, 2015 This might be to your liking. Restored meteor storms, fixed and restored pre-mission dropship logic, beta units and designs... http://www.moddb.com/mods/tiberian-sun-retro 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isaac The Madd Posted July 6, 2015 Report Share Posted July 6, 2015 This might be to your liking. Restored meteor storms, fixed and restored pre-mission dropship logic, beta units and designs... http://www.moddb.com/mods/tiberian-sun-retro It has everything from the beta but the forgotten faction was not even worked on in the beta and still no boats. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isaac The Madd Posted July 7, 2015 Report Share Posted July 7, 2015 What was that mod for tiberian sun that had Nod, GDI, Mutants, Cabal, Allies, and Soviets? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SgtKamarov Posted July 8, 2015 Report Share Posted July 8, 2015 Last time I played Tiberian Dawn and Tiberian Sun, it was not filled with religious themes like C&C3 is. The point is that Nod's ideology drifred heavily from being mostly secular nationalism (with religion mostly respected as "part of national tradition, but however with Kane already in a de facto position of prophet to be obeyed ("from God to Kane") that opposed UN's and GDI's vision of globalized world to religious fanatism exactly in C&C2 Tiberian Sun. It was in Tiberian Sun, where Nod's ideology delivered promises of divination, that was once political slogans (like "Peace through power") became religious mantras and Kane's being referenced as "the Messiah". C&C3 had us see this tendency to develop even further - Kane aknowledged formally to be "prophet" and a fanatical wing of followers developing in the Brotherhood 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killing_You Posted July 8, 2015 Report Share Posted July 8, 2015 The major turning point was when Kane essentially came back to life. I always saw C&C 3 as the natural progression of things. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerad2142 Posted July 16, 2015 Report Share Posted July 16, 2015 C&C Renegade (Made by the ORIGINAL westwood studios) had just as much (if not MORE) religious fanaticism in Nod as C&C3. Except no suicide soldiers blowing themselves up... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein Posted July 16, 2015 Report Share Posted July 16, 2015 C&C Renegade (Made by the ORIGINAL westwood studios) had just as much (if not MORE) religious fanaticism in Nod as C&C3. To arms, brothers! Yeah i would say so lol. But i agree that the cutscenes in C&C3 were pretty culty. But hey, it adds to the intended creepy factor. What was that mod for tiberian sun that had Nod, GDI, Mutants, Cabal, Allies, and Soviets? OpenRA maybe..? The major turning point was when Kane essentially came back to life. I always saw C&C 3 as the natural progression of things. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewGOLD Posted August 11, 2015 Report Share Posted August 11, 2015 (edited) The final cutscene of TibSun Firestorm is pretty weird. Kane was in that tube and I couldn't even understand what Cabal or Kane said. Probably something like you did something wrong Idk. Kane was probably cloned there as Einstein says. He couldn't survive after what happened in Ts or Td. His brain is like a computer or something like that. He saved his memories. Edited August 11, 2015 by AndrewGOLD 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plokite_Wolf Posted August 15, 2015 Report Share Posted August 15, 2015 The final cutscene of TibSun Firestorm is pretty weird. Kane was in that tube and I couldn't even understand what Cabal or Kane said.He said... My...my...my... my vision has permeatated. My... my...your...my plans have followed a path unpredicted by the union of Nod and GDI. Your...my...power... our directives must be reassessed. Kane was probably cloned there as Einstein says. He couldn't survive after what happened in Ts or Td. His brain is like a computer or something like that. He saved his memories.In the complete and final canon, Kane is an alien. That would explain how he was present in the events of RA1 (through the almost-canon Soviet campaign), in Tiberian Dawn, got Ion Cannon'd, returned in TS pretty damn wounded, got impaled by McNeil and then recovered in Act I of Kane's Wrath, then onwards in the storyline. Clones weren't quite an idea by Westwood. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein Posted August 15, 2015 Report Share Posted August 15, 2015 I was totally joking about the clones, I should have made that clear. I assumed my Ursula meme would give it away lol. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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