Shade939 Posted January 16, 2018 Report Share Posted January 16, 2018 Just now, Category 5 Hurricane said: I'm not bothered either way. I do want to know how combat works so that I have a bit of info for the rest of the game. How about this? Why doesn't everyone pick a partner and we have a mass sparring match? Depending on how much GM input is needed for the duel phase, that might actually work out rather well. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeP47 Posted January 16, 2018 Report Share Posted January 16, 2018 Don't we have an odd number of players, though? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeP47 Posted January 16, 2018 Report Share Posted January 16, 2018 Mafia edit: Actually even number of players. I forgot to count Voe. And yes, it was Voe specifically I forgot to count. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChopBam Posted January 16, 2018 Report Share Posted January 16, 2018 26 minutes ago, OrangeP47 said: Don't we have an odd number of players, though? Yeah but Indiana Solo doesn't get a lightsaber so it all works out. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shade939 Posted January 16, 2018 Report Share Posted January 16, 2018 10 minutes ago, ChopBam said: Yeah but Indiana Solo doesn't get a lightsaber so it all works out. Hugh, referencing a character who uses a whip as his main weapon might not have been the best idea now that I think about it... Also, #Solo. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheIrishman Posted January 16, 2018 Report Share Posted January 16, 2018 2 hours ago, Shade939 said: Depending on how much GM input is needed for the duel phase, that might actually work out rather well. I'd be up for this, dibs on fighting Cat5. Though considering it's a turn-based combat system, I don't think we be able to do a mass sparring match. At least, without putting a lot of stress on Vert. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Category 5 Hurricane Posted January 16, 2018 Report Share Posted January 16, 2018 Indeed, though is it really fair to give a combat tutorial to two people? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChopBam Posted January 16, 2018 Report Share Posted January 16, 2018 In before Cat5 and Irish turn out to be the scum team we are looking for. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheIrishman Posted January 16, 2018 Report Share Posted January 16, 2018 Mafia edit: we'd* I think mostly everything with combat will be explained to everyone as it's done, with all actions and results being public, so it won't really matter too much if we personally experience it. That said, I still like the idea of a mass brawl. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunflower Posted January 16, 2018 Report Share Posted January 16, 2018 Soooo... I'm not sure I know how this force balance meter works, but a mass duel sure sounds like a good way to push it to the dark side! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shade939 Posted January 16, 2018 Report Share Posted January 16, 2018 Just now, Sunflower said: Soooo... I'm not sure I know how this force balance meter works, but a mass duel sure sounds like a good way to push it to the dark side! I wouldn't' worry about the FB quite yet, everything that happens during the tutorial phase shouldn't really carry over to D1 of the actual game so we can focus on learning the new game mechanics for now. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheIrishman Posted January 16, 2018 Report Share Posted January 16, 2018 Just now, Sunflower said: Soooo... I'm not sure I know how this force balance meter works, but a mass duel sure sounds like a good way to push it to the dark side! The first duel is just a practice round, it shouldn't affect the FBI considering there's no actual result to it. I'm assuming the FBI works kind of like the World Tension meter that we used in two previous games, in that if a Jedi dies, it'll move towards the Dark Side since there would be less Light Side users. And if a Sith dies, it'll move towards the Light Side since there would be less Dark Side users. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Category 5 Hurricane Posted January 16, 2018 Report Share Posted January 16, 2018 Well, I can't say for sure because I haven't seen how combat works, but being in a pretend combat phase also gives you an idea on how your own character performs at combat. Which should be good info for anyone. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Category 5 Hurricane Posted January 16, 2018 Report Share Posted January 16, 2018 21 minutes ago, ChopBam said: In before Cat5 and Irish turn out to be the scum team we are looking for. In before ChopBam completely misses the plot. .. .. .. Aw, crap, I was too late! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunflower Posted January 16, 2018 Report Share Posted January 16, 2018 I was just thinking that in the description it said that "actions" could influence the FBI too, so that makes it sound more open ended. It's like Yoda said in the Clone Wars, the jedi were risking losing themselves and letting the dark side win just by fighting the war at all. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Category 5 Hurricane Posted January 16, 2018 Report Share Posted January 16, 2018 I think we're expecting that this Day 0 is entirely a practice phase and everything will reset completely for Day 1. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Category 5 Hurricane Posted January 16, 2018 Report Share Posted January 16, 2018 It isn't just practice for us, but also VERTi60 who needs to test a new system before things matter and blow up in his face. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shade939 Posted January 16, 2018 Report Share Posted January 16, 2018 Just now, Sunflower said: I was just thinking that in the description it said that "actions" could influence the FBI too, so that makes it sound more open ended. It's like Yoda said in the Clone Wars, the jedi were risking losing themselves and letting the dark side win just by fighting the war at all. Someone else will have to answer how RPG like this game actually is, but for the most part the "actions" will be a night time force ability that probably shifts the FBI by about 5-20% for every dark side action the Sith undertake in one night. And we'll probably have a couple of limited counter abilities that allow us to shift it back the other way to an extent. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeP47 Posted January 16, 2018 Report Share Posted January 16, 2018 3 minutes ago, Sunflower said: I was just thinking that in the description it said that "actions" could influence the FBI too, so that makes it sound more open ended. It's like Yoda said in the Clone Wars, the jedi were risking losing themselves and letting the dark side win just by fighting the war at all. What if there are no sith and we just have to find the people who couldn't resist tampering with the dark side? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeP47 Posted January 16, 2018 Report Share Posted January 16, 2018 Just now, Shade939 said: Someone else will have to answer how RPG like this game actually is, but for the most part the "actions" will be a night time force ability that probably shifts the FBI by about 5-20% for every dark side action the Sith undertake in one night. And we'll probably have a couple of limited counter abilities that allow us to shift it back the other way to an extent. The section on training powers might be of interest, as well. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retaliation Posted January 16, 2018 Report Share Posted January 16, 2018 Just now, Category 5 Hurricane said: It isn't just practice for us, but also VERTi60 who needs to test a new system before things matter and blow up in his face. That has literally never* happened in the history of BHP mafia, and I was never party to those games that never happened. Voe vs me is probably a good test in the end, because I feel we've built our characters in very different ways. *lies 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunflower Posted January 16, 2018 Report Share Posted January 16, 2018 Just now, OrangeP47 said: What if there are no sith and we just have to find the people who couldn't resist tampering with the dark side? That's deep. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shade939 Posted January 16, 2018 Report Share Posted January 16, 2018 5 minutes ago, OrangeP47 said: What if there are no sith and we just have to find the people who couldn't resist tampering with the dark side? That would be very surprising to say the least... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Category 5 Hurricane Posted January 16, 2018 Report Share Posted January 16, 2018 I bet it would be, because you are scum #2, amirite? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunflower Posted January 16, 2018 Report Share Posted January 16, 2018 13 minutes ago, OrangeP47 said: What if there are no sith and we just have to find the people who couldn't resist tampering with the dark side? OTOH by saying this, you might be trying to gently nudge unsuspecting Jedi toward the lures of the dark side. Hmmm. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shade939 Posted January 16, 2018 Report Share Posted January 16, 2018 2 minutes ago, Category 5 Hurricane said: I bet it would be, because you are scum #2, amirite? Well, you have to admit I would certainly be surprised in that case. Although, it would be a weird game if the only way for a scum player to be in game was if they choose to become one. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChopBam Posted January 16, 2018 Report Share Posted January 16, 2018 I think any light Jedi can move the force balance to the left, Kotor-style. Make evil decisions and it'll move. This is why we need to off Voe soon after the game starts. Starting light or dark, it doesn't matter. He'll move the FBI to the left. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeP47 Posted January 16, 2018 Report Share Posted January 16, 2018 Just now, Sunflower said: OTOH by saying this, you might be trying to gently nudge unsuspecting Jedi toward the lures of the dark side. Hmmm. By reverse psychology? It certainly is in their nature. While I'd recommend against the dark side, for obvious reasons, I fully suspect some people won't be able to contain themselves. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeP47 Posted January 16, 2018 Report Share Posted January 16, 2018 Just now, Shade939 said: Well, you have to admit I would certainly be surprised in that case. Although, it would be a weird game if the only way for a scum player to be in game was if they choose to become one. While strange, yes, there's precedent. The Stein;s Gate Quantum Mafia, in theory. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Category 5 Hurricane Posted January 16, 2018 Report Share Posted January 16, 2018 Just now, ChopBam said: I think any light Jedi can move the force balance to the left, Kotor-style. Make evil decisions and it'll move. This is why we need to off Voe soon after the game starts. Starting light or dark, it doesn't matter. He'll move the FBI to the left. Well, antagonizing him before he's even done anything doesn't help. (I know this from experience) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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