VERTi60 Posted October 25, 2018 Report Share Posted October 25, 2018 On 10/25/2018 at 4:17 PM, ChopBam said: With all these effects he has on the game I have a hard time believing he's neutral. Expand He's obviously TP, I've already figured that on my own. Thing is that some of his abilities are also pro town (giving BP, protecting during night) so it's hard to tell that he's straightforward hostile to town. We have KY's result providing that he's guilty of something. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shade939 Posted October 25, 2018 Report Share Posted October 25, 2018 On 10/25/2018 at 4:17 PM, Sunflower said: Does anyone think we'll get retroactive info about the dead players at some point if Cat 5 was the reason why we didn't get info? Expand No, someone should be coming back to life, and for balance reasons we're be forced to debate what alignment they have now, instead of having them completely cleared and alive again. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VERTi60 Posted October 25, 2018 Report Share Posted October 25, 2018 On 10/25/2018 at 4:17 PM, Sunflower said: Does anyone think we'll get retroactive info about the dead players at some point if Cat 5 was the reason why we didn't get info? Expand Cat5 will most likely submit a post death night action and we'll see next day what happens. Sissel had to die first in order to fix things when we follow the flavor. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeP47 Posted October 25, 2018 Report Share Posted October 25, 2018 I really wish Jeod was still alive right about now 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shade939 Posted October 25, 2018 Report Share Posted October 25, 2018 That's also why it's half way debatable if we'd get someone's alignment if we lynched them now, or if we'd have to wait until after Category 5 used his ability still... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunflower Posted October 25, 2018 Report Share Posted October 25, 2018 It honestly doesn't add up for me. Why would Cat 5 go so suddenly from being stoked about interrogating Chop to wanting to be shot in the face. Why did he NEED to be shot if he wanted to die so badly? He could have just tried to get himself lynched and saved the gunshot for someone else. It doesn't really sound like something he would do. It's not like him at all. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VERTi60 Posted October 25, 2018 Report Share Posted October 25, 2018 On 10/25/2018 at 4:25 PM, Sunflower said: It honestly doesn't add up for me. Why would Cat 5 go so suddenly from being stoked about interrogating Chop to wanting to be shot in the face. Why did he NEED to be shot if he wanted to die so badly? He could have just tried to get himself lynched and saved the gunshot for someone else. It doesn't really sound like something he would do. It's not like him at all. Expand Maybe he needs to stay dead in order to talk to Jeod, and since he has issues with time he required this to be done immediately. In any way it's not really that important. We should decide whether we lynch choppy or orange or no one. Lynching anyone else would not be beneficial at this point since we might still not get a flip. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VERTi60 Posted October 25, 2018 Report Share Posted October 25, 2018 On 10/25/2018 at 4:22 PM, OrangeP47 said: I really wish Jeod was still alive right about now Expand Don't worry about Jeod. Worry about yourself. So are you gonna admit already that your role is in no way neutral? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunflower Posted October 25, 2018 Report Share Posted October 25, 2018 I think it might be important actually. Before the night started Cat 5 was really aggressive toward Chop. He told him he better be able to confirm who Jeod targeted the night before and sounded like he was ready to jump on him with questions. Then all of a sudden he wants to be shot in the face? Are you kidding me? That doesn't make any sense at all. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeP47 Posted October 25, 2018 Report Share Posted October 25, 2018 On 10/25/2018 at 4:29 PM, VERTi60 said: Don't worry about Jeod. Worry about yourself. So are you gonna admit already that your role is in no way neutral? Expand My role is 100% neutral. You're just jealous like Shade that I didn't give you the bulletproof 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shade939 Posted October 25, 2018 Report Share Posted October 25, 2018 On 10/25/2018 at 4:31 PM, Sunflower said: I think it might be important actually. Before the night started Cat 5 was really aggressive toward Chop. He told him he better be able to confirm who Jeod targeted the night before and sounded like he was ready to jump on him with questions. Then all of a sudden he wants to be shot in the face? Are you kidding me? That doesn't make any sense at all. Expand In all fairness, Chopbam should be capable of confirming that right now, since I don't' think Category 5 needs to prove anything since he already got himself shot if he comes back... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VERTi60 Posted October 25, 2018 Report Share Posted October 25, 2018 On 10/25/2018 at 4:33 PM, OrangeP47 said: My role is 100% neutral. You're just jealous like Shade that I didn't give you the bulletproof Expand Oh am I? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeP47 Posted October 25, 2018 Report Share Posted October 25, 2018 On 10/25/2018 at 4:33 PM, Shade939 said: In all fairness, Chopbam should be capable of confirming that right now, since I don't' think Category 5 needs to prove anything since he already got himself shot if he comes back... Expand I guess that's something we can pile on to what's floating around at least. Alright, let's hear it, who did Jeod target? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeP47 Posted October 25, 2018 Report Share Posted October 25, 2018 On 10/25/2018 at 4:34 PM, VERTi60 said: Oh am I? Expand You're always jealous of something 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunflower Posted October 25, 2018 Report Share Posted October 25, 2018 On 10/25/2018 at 4:33 PM, Shade939 said: In all fairness, Chopbam should be capable of confirming that right now, since I don't' think Category 5 needs to prove anything since he already got himself shot if he comes back... Expand But what if Cat 5 doesn't come back? Why not question Chop first and then ask to be shot? Why act so out of character? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VERTi60 Posted October 25, 2018 Report Share Posted October 25, 2018 We can always look at it this way: We can always grill Chopbam once we get Cat5/Jeod back in the game or when we get the alignment flip back. If we lynch Chopbam now we're not sure if he flips scum. Orange already claimed non town and got copped by KY as guilty. So no matter who is right, I think logically we should just either lynch Orange or no one, and follow up on it tomorrow. Thoughts? @Shade939 @Killing_You @Sunflower 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VERTi60 Posted October 25, 2018 Report Share Posted October 25, 2018 On 10/25/2018 at 4:35 PM, OrangeP47 said: You're always jealous of something Expand I think you're jealous of me being lynchproof since you're on my ass whole game 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunflower Posted October 25, 2018 Report Share Posted October 25, 2018 No, I don't think Category 5 did that on his own. IMO he was possessed to do it by some evil force by a player who had an incentive for KY to waste his gunshot. And we have a player here who was unlynchable that we know absolutely nothing about. What a coincidence. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VERTi60 Posted October 25, 2018 Report Share Posted October 25, 2018 On 10/25/2018 at 4:37 PM, VERTi60 said: We can always look at it this way: We can always grill Chopbam once we get Cat5/Jeod back in the game or when we get the alignment flip back. If we lynch Chopbam now we're not sure if he flips scum. Orange already claimed non town and got copped by KY as guilty. So no matter who is right, I think logically we should just either lynch Orange or no one, and follow up on it tomorrow. Thoughts? @Shade939 @Killing_You @Sunflower Expand + @iLikeToSnipe 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeP47 Posted October 25, 2018 Report Share Posted October 25, 2018 On 10/25/2018 at 4:38 PM, VERTi60 said: I think you're jealous of me being lynchproof since you're on my ass whole game Expand You want to be a tree stump but I'm not sure I believe you 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shade939 Posted October 25, 2018 Report Share Posted October 25, 2018 On 10/25/2018 at 4:40 PM, Sunflower said: No, I don't think Category 5 did that on his own. IMO he was possessed to do it by some evil force by a player who had an incentive for KY to waste his gunshot. And we have a player here who was unlynchable that we know absolutely nothing about. What a coincidence. Expand His character name was revealed when he died though, and that's actually is in character for Category 5 to meme like that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VERTi60 Posted October 25, 2018 Report Share Posted October 25, 2018 On 10/25/2018 at 4:40 PM, Sunflower said: No, I don't think Category 5 did that on his own. IMO he was possessed to do it by some evil force by a player who had an incentive for KY to waste his gunshot. And we have a player here who was unlynchable that we know absolutely nothing about. What a coincidence. Expand As a GM I can say that metawise it's not a good mechanic to have player possess the other the way you think it happened. You can't make a player appear on a predetermined time and make them say exact things. It also doesn't look like cat5 got a gimmick as he worded the thing differently, and he also said THANK YOU by the end. It only means he wishes to remain dead since he can still continue to talk to dead or it enables his ability. Possessions normally work that they are confirmed by GM stating what the possessed player "did". (e.g. as seen in Death Note). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shade939 Posted October 25, 2018 Report Share Posted October 25, 2018 If nothing else, I'd assume Orange can Jail Chopbam tonight. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VERTi60 Posted October 25, 2018 Report Share Posted October 25, 2018 On 10/25/2018 at 4:41 PM, OrangeP47 said: You want to be a tree stump but I'm not sure I believe you Expand You are evading my question. Are you going to acknowledge that you are not neutral? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VERTi60 Posted October 25, 2018 Report Share Posted October 25, 2018 On 10/25/2018 at 4:44 PM, Shade939 said: If nothing else, I'd assume Orange can Jail Chopbam tonight. Expand That works too but now that Orange completed his objective he can do as he pleases. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeP47 Posted October 25, 2018 Report Share Posted October 25, 2018 On 10/25/2018 at 4:44 PM, VERTi60 said: You are evading my question. Are you going to acknowledge that you are not neutral? Expand I can't acknowledge that, because it's not true. I AM neutral. I already did that. Pay attention 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VERTi60 Posted October 25, 2018 Report Share Posted October 25, 2018 On 10/25/2018 at 4:46 PM, OrangeP47 said: I can't acknowledge that, because it's not true. I AM neutral. I already did that. Pay attention Expand Your role doesn't sound as neutral since it can get people in trouble. KY copped you guilty. I think you can't dodge the cop result anymore. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shade939 Posted October 25, 2018 Report Share Posted October 25, 2018 On 10/25/2018 at 4:47 PM, VERTi60 said: Your role doesn't sound as neutral since it can get people in trouble. KY copped you guilty. I think you can't dodge the cop result anymore. Expand I do have to agree with the passive being too disruptive for him to be a neutral player though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeP47 Posted October 25, 2018 Report Share Posted October 25, 2018 On 10/25/2018 at 4:47 PM, VERTi60 said: Your role doesn't sound as neutral since it can get people in trouble. KY copped you guilty. I think you can't dodge the cop result anymore. Expand Doesn't sound neutral, but is neutral. Again, guilty/not guilt could be purely town not-town, and neutral is not town. That is my answer. Do I need to come to your house and stamp it on your forehead 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shade939 Posted October 25, 2018 Report Share Posted October 25, 2018 With Category 5, I'm assuming he was supposed to basically use it as soon as possible to prevent it from interfering with the game, but since no one really died.... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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