Killing_You Posted December 13, 2018 Report Share Posted December 13, 2018 I want to take a closer look at this Cat5 thing. 14 hours ago, Category 5 Hurricane said: Somebody has the ability to move. 9 hours ago, Category 5 Hurricane said: Thinking about it further, what led me to believe someone moved might be something else. Information given to me suggested something changed, which I presumed to mean something moved. It may relate to what happens on the map, I'm unsure. I'll have to see what happens in later nights to get a better idea. To me, this looks like Category 5 knew what happened, and tried to set up a case on whoever moved (in this case, Voe). Then, he seemed to realize that his setup was flimsy at best, and tried to backtrack in order to distance himself from the situation. 8 hours ago, Category 5 Hurricane said: What made you decide to fire now when you didn't before? 7 hours ago, Category 5 Hurricane said: You waited an hour. In the early morning. 7 hours ago, Category 5 Hurricane said: Well, I mean, I don't know your timezone, but point being it's rarely talkative right now. Two posts happened in between you hesitating and then shooting. 7 hours ago, Category 5 Hurricane said: He could be trigger happy, but that's why I'm pressing for an explanation rather than just jumping to a conclusion one way or another. I want to see a little more elaboration on what went through his mind in that hour between hesitating and then shooting. I want to give him another chance to explain in more detail what he thought about, as right now what I'm seeing is not satisfactory but also not enough to really draw a great conclusion. 6 hours ago, Category 5 Hurricane said: Your argument screams that you felt a ton of pressure over this, but I don't think the circumstances back that up. These are all of the posts he made following his initial report. Trying to focus on the JackODerp situation while avoiding a pertinent question: How did he get the info? He hasn't even said something along the lines of "It's best if I keep it secret for the sake of Town," he's just avoided the question altogether. Currently, I think that Category 5 teleported Voe, tried to setup a scenario where moving is a scum ability, realized that it would be difficult to press such a case, and decided to backtrack before he got caught. If he's a tracker/watcher/similar, he wouldn't have avoided the question of how he got that info, nor would he have been so vague in his second post. If he's town and responsible for the teleport, he wouldn't have opened in a semi-accusatory way. ##vote Category 5 Hurricane 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shade939 Posted December 13, 2018 Report Share Posted December 13, 2018 On 12/10/2018 at 12:54 PM, VERTi60 said: Found Voe’s earlier shot, so he at least appears to have switched quadrants somehow. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeP47 Posted December 13, 2018 Report Share Posted December 13, 2018 Just now, Shade939 said: Found Voe’s earlier shot, so he at least appears to have switched quadrants somehow. Welcome to a few hours ago. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killing_You Posted December 13, 2018 Report Share Posted December 13, 2018 Little late to the party there 😛 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeod Posted December 13, 2018 Report Share Posted December 13, 2018 Just now, Shade939 said: Found Voe’s earlier shot, so he at least appears to have switched quadrants somehow. Yes, please read the thread before posting. I agree with KY’s assessment of Category 5. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeP47 Posted December 13, 2018 Report Share Posted December 13, 2018 We're all just sitting around. Are we waiting to contribute? No, we're just here to pounce on Shade when he's subpar 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Category 5 Hurricane Posted December 13, 2018 Report Share Posted December 13, 2018 Why would I bother Chronoshifting Voe and then tell people about it? The idea that scum has the ability to move is a possibility, sure, but don't you think it would be easier to push a case on him if it was found he moved later? Furthermore, if I was going to frame someone using the Chronosphere, I would have moved one of the two people who were going to try to clear themselves using submerge. The reason I know someone moved is because if someone near you moves, you get told about it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shade939 Posted December 13, 2018 Report Share Posted December 13, 2018 2 minutes ago, Category 5 Hurricane said: Why would I bother Chronoshifting Voe and then tell people about it? The idea that scum has the ability to move is a possibility, sure, but don't you think it would be easier to push a case on him if it was found he moved later? Furthermore, if I was going to frame someone using the Chronosphere, I would have moved one of the two people who were going to try to clear themselves using submerge. The reason I know someone moved is because if someone near you moves, you get told about it. And just how close were you? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeod Posted December 13, 2018 Report Share Posted December 13, 2018 I agree with Category 5’s rebuttal. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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OrangeP47 Posted December 13, 2018 Report Share Posted December 13, 2018 I mean, I wasn't convinced of the case on Cat 5 in the first place. Even with minimal trying, I don't think Cat 5 would be sloppy like that. It does make me wonder, though, if maybe Voe moved of his own voelition, and Cat 5's comments spooked him and he's trying to play dumb. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackoDerp Posted December 13, 2018 Report Share Posted December 13, 2018 How near would you have to be to someone to be informed that they moved though? That's the part im tripping up on here. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shade939 Posted December 13, 2018 Report Share Posted December 13, 2018 1 minute ago, JackoDerp said: How near would you have to be to someone to be informed that they moved though? That's the part im tripping up on here. Closer than Orange? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Category 5 Hurricane Posted December 13, 2018 Report Share Posted December 13, 2018 3 minutes ago, Shade939 said: And just how close were you? Why do you want to know? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeP47 Posted December 13, 2018 Report Share Posted December 13, 2018 It makes me wonder how densely packed we are into Q1 too. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackoDerp Posted December 13, 2018 Report Share Posted December 13, 2018 1 minute ago, OrangeP47 said: I mean, I wasn't convinced of the case on Cat 5 in the first place. Even with minimal trying, I don't think Cat 5 would be sloppy like that. It does make me wonder, though, if maybe Voe moved of his own voelition, and Cat 5's comments spooked him and he's trying to play dumb. Voe has already proven he has a shot, so I find it unlikely he'd be the one performing the shifts. I'm also pretty sure this teleporting ability is not Soviet-controlled, simply because that would make no sense. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VERTi60 Posted December 13, 2018 Author Report Share Posted December 13, 2018 27 minutes ago, Killing_You said: ##vote Category 5 Hurricane [Vote Counted] Killing You voted Category 5 Hurricane to be lynched! Time Left: 1 day(s), 0 hour(s), 46 min(s) CVC: Alstar voted nobody Category 5 Hurricane voted nobody ChopBam voted nobody FRAYDO voted nobody JackoDerp voted nobody Jeod voted JackoDerp Killing You voted Category 5 Hurricane Nodlied voted nobody OrangeP47 voted nobody Shade939 voted nobody Voe voted nobody 2/11 votes casted so far 2 voted players are at a tie (1 each) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeP47 Posted December 13, 2018 Report Share Posted December 13, 2018 Just now, Shade939 said: Closer than Orange? My personal guess would be no more than 2 squares away. Notice how when someone's killed, the blank space around them is revealed. My guess would be if you shared that. But I have nothing to go on with this. I'm probably far enough away. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeP47 Posted December 13, 2018 Report Share Posted December 13, 2018 1 minute ago, JackoDerp said: Voe has already proven he has a shot, so I find it unlikely he'd be the one performing the shifts. I'm also pretty sure this teleporting ability is not Soviet-controlled, simply because that would make no sense. I mean, we don't know for sure it's teleport/chronoshift. It could be just firing up the engines and moving, or maybe even a tug or something thematically. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeP47 Posted December 13, 2018 Report Share Posted December 13, 2018 2 minutes ago, JackoDerp said: Voe has already proven he has a shot, so I find it unlikely he'd be the one performing the shifts. I'm also pretty sure this teleporting ability is not Soviet-controlled, simply because that would make no sense. Also how do we know the one causing movement can't shoot too? Nearly everyone can shoot? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackoDerp Posted December 13, 2018 Report Share Posted December 13, 2018 Just now, OrangeP47 said: I mean, we don't know for sure it's teleport/chronoshift. It could be just firing up the engines and moving, or maybe even a tug or something thematically. Oh true, this doesn't completely clear Voe I suppose, though I find it unlikely he'd be the one moving people. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Category 5 Hurricane Posted December 13, 2018 Report Share Posted December 13, 2018 Furthermore, I have to add that I'm still not absolutely certain what happened is I detected someone moving. It might merely be that a unit near me was detected because of the reveals over night. I'm not sure why I would be told that if that were the case, because the map obviously already tells me that information. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shade939 Posted December 13, 2018 Report Share Posted December 13, 2018 We’re assuming Voe is an attack submarine since he pressed Orange over that earlier, but if he’s different unit then it’s entirely possible that he moved himself. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shade939 Posted December 13, 2018 Report Share Posted December 13, 2018 Allthough, I’m not certain how that would work if you were told if a unit moved by your location, and it seems like more work than a GM would want to do for that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Category 5 Hurricane Posted December 13, 2018 Report Share Posted December 13, 2018 If you were going to move a suspected Submarine, wouldn't you move in onto known land tiles? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shade939 Posted December 13, 2018 Report Share Posted December 13, 2018 Just now, Category 5 Hurricane said: If you were going to move a suspected Submarine, wouldn't you move in onto known land tiles? I’ve been wondering about that, but the fact that Voe is alive and didn’t mention anything about taking damage or is still alive doesn’t support that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeod Posted December 13, 2018 Report Share Posted December 13, 2018 Say, was anyone else hit by a sonar ping? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeP47 Posted December 13, 2018 Report Share Posted December 13, 2018 The entirety of my PM was basically "You successfully submerged" 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChopBam Posted December 13, 2018 Report Share Posted December 13, 2018 5 minutes ago, Jeod said: Say, was anyone else hit by a sonar ping? There can only be one destroyer, so that's unlikely? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shade939 Posted December 13, 2018 Report Share Posted December 13, 2018 Just now, ChopBam said: There can only be one destroyer, so that's unlikely? Not to overly complicate everything, but those are the non-custom units. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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