Nodlied

Well, I guess you can sign me up for either. Don't have as much time as I had back in October, but is should do. Don't care about my role for an APB mafia, but dibs on Greece, Germoney or Luxembourg if we're going to play deptnote.

Think my avatar is fine.

And it's still potential as I do not yet know how busy I will be during the next period. I'm almost done with the current work, but I won't really be able to judge until next week.

Wait, this isn't about forcing Greece to pay debt?

I don't feel like installing windows 10 for just one game. Sorry, but until more and more games require Win10, I'm not switching over.

Just a small thing to add here, Engineers can kill minor weakpoints very quickly.

It's time for Apocalypse Rising Rising Rising Rising.

Merry christmas everybody!

Now why did you have to go and ruin that wedding by killing people? What did they ever do to you? Also, I won't be present during the TS mafia due to being on vacation. (Plus it would look weird if I was talking about random situations on the headphone while the family was watching me.)

Please do. We (scum) were a bit overpowered, but in all essence, we didn't really have to do anything. In any case, this game was a disaster for town. It wasn't hard to lynch townies and come up with good reasons as to why we (scum) did what we did. Finding out who the serial killer was wasn't hard either. In accordance to the good old tradition hailing back to the BHP days, the doctor died before D2. And although there were several moments where we could be pressured for questionable actions - going after Choppy's cop claim when there wasn't any counter claim, me claiming good guy roleblocker while it also makes sense for scum to have one, etc - you guys were too focussed on doing what you did. Special thanks to Jeod and Voe for throwing this game under the bus for town. In essence, Well Voe, we're somewhat in the same boat. I always try lynching you D1, you always try killing me N1. I'm waiting for a game where bothe things somehow happen and end up badly for ourselves.

I haven't been asked anything yet. So, Chris and KY, what do you two have to say about this? As we're pretty damn close to lynching you guys today. (Voe confirmed at least a killer, and his claim seems to support that.)

Hmm, I blocked Voe, guess what happened. Only one kill. ##Vote Voe

This makes no fucking sense.

Then why won't you?

I guess that's the curse of having a cop role that's not 100% sure on his reports. Rolesheet. Again. Well, after the Gencamo post and me re-reading the rules, I'm dropping that argument. (Lest you are scum pretending to be a cop.) And so, realizing this, I ended up hardclaiming. Yet you still make a point out of this.

As stated in the initial rules: Cops cannot (nor have any reason to) check themselves. Not confirming or denying anything, just noting your statement violates the rules of the game. Well I be damned. I actually missed that.

Yes, then why didn't you investigate yourself on N1 to check your sanity, that alone would help out somewhat. You decided to check a player, also great. Thing is, when reasons were given to claim in order to claim, you did so only silently. Yet while you had a hunch that Jeod was town, and later switching to a ''what if he's the serial killer?'' while being buddy-buddy from D1 onwards feels fishy. Only when we started pressuring you, Choppy, do you guys start posting a bit of ''I don't fully trust the guy'' while your D1 behaviour and most of D2 behaviour appears to indicate otherwise. As for the cop = nightkill target. We're at Mylo, we need all the info we can get, and yet, there are still possibilities of the claimed cop not dying, be it by the help of a protection, block, assumed protection by scum, or even a fake claim by a scum player. Yes, I said it, a cop claim does not mean a dead cop. And at this point and the D2 start, I valued information over a potential cop kill, especially when we have potential roles that could get info out of that as well.

Well, I dungoofed in that case. Good news though. Going to ##Unvote Chopbam until five to hammer again.

Hammer time?

"Get Loaded -- You can choose to do a single kill at night which is completely unstoppable, by way of roleblocking, rolestopping, or healing. You can only do this once. This replaces the normal nightkill." Welp. Well, I'm willing to make the claim that scum doesn't have such a role with a second killer in play.

Time's up. ##Vote Chopbam for most likely scum.

I'm not a tracker, Mr. Fisherman. I'm a roleblocker. That's why was questioning you about what I did to you, and the fact that you claim that you didn't receive a PM is causing concern. No matter if you're able to do something or not, you should at least have had an idea as to what happened. I have only confirmed you as a non-killer, at least for night one. Also, as I said, we may not be screwed with a potential dual murder again tonight, should we lynch a third party serial killer, there are chances that there are no kills at all. We have two kills each night, and two (different) protection roles. The doctor is dead, I'm still able to protect. As for Voe, I don't think he's scum. Third party? Maybe, but unlikely. I'm know Voe very well and I'm able to predict his future actions based on his current and past actions. I'm also pretty good at determining whether or not he's a hostile based on night results and his behaviour.

We'll, considering that we're almost out of time, I'll make my Fraydo post smaller (and with less hassle about fixing quotes). Fraydo has made a very flimsy post on Chaos_Knight with very flimsy arguments while fencesitting like a disabled person at a rugby match. Regardless, that does not go up against what I've seen from Choppy: slips, playing dumb, going against his own claims, not spreading info that's simply not true, etc. You have until five minutes before hammer.

Holy mother of Byzantium! Things have been piling up since I left for internship! Well, that's interesting, as I'm pretty sure that people would get a PM based on my actions. Vanilla or not. Well would you look at that, first you have a great hunch that he's town, even soft claiming cop, but then you ask yourself whether or not he's the serial killer? Are you uncertain of your (cop)sanity? Or do you just not know what Jeod actually is? Or are you trying to throw a tiny bit of suspicion onto Jeod to divert attention away? Thing is, I know Jeod is not one of the killers. 1) Cat5 went pretty hard on Verti D1, along with some others of us. 2) Cat5 only made posts during the joke phase because that was the only time he was alive. I'm guessing you're referring to this post (reasoning which has already been responded to): Cat5 didn't only make posts during the joke phase. It's hard to miss that essay of his that he posted long after the joke phase was over. And the fact you wanted them to come out and hardclaim immediately was telling to me that you wanted to know who the cops were so you could kill them. Such an amazing accusation when perfectly good reasons were given for asking the cop to come out. Uh, you know I also voted no lynch too, right? For some reason the vets are all very secretive about why it's so bad. And this is bad because..? Not so. My continued, unanswered questions on why no lynching is bad, in the face of all opposition from the vets, does not seem like a bandwagon to me. Your confusing behavior is making me flip flop on you, and that's it. The thing is, this is no ''finally''. This has been explained every game so far. No really, people (and I) explain this every game. Yes you did. The point where we lynch whoever and there is no night-kill. Have something to say for yourself, Choppy? I'll give you some time while I look through the entire Fraydo thing.

Choppy, Gencamo announced that we're at MYLO. So we're potentially boned if we myslynch today and both killers get their way (unless they kill one another, which would be hillarious). Asking a the cop not to provide any info if he has any is counter productive. However, if he hasn't got anything, he should confirm a player. Considering we're at MYLO, there's no reason to not bring the investigation result on the table, if the cop nailed scum, amazing, if he found town, now would be a good time to cross off a fellow townie. HOWEVER, we will need to keep questioning every possible claim, as we may just as well have a scum player claiming cop. At this point, we're going to need all the info we can potentially get. Yes, a massive turn around from the usual ''don't claim early in the game unless you have a good reason'', but considering GenCamo put us at Mylo, we will need everything we can get our hands on. I do have something to report, but I'd rather let Jeod explain that one. Also, announcement time: I'll be pretty much gone until Wednesday evening (a few hours before hammer). Internship calls and while I may find some time to chip in every now and then, I can't guarantee anything. In any case, don't screw up while I'm gone ohke?