VERTi60 Posted November 30, 2016 Report Share Posted November 30, 2016 As requested, the next RA: APB Mafia is here again. This time, with extra special units and flavor since 20th anniversary of Red Alert! If you are new to these games, check out the last APB themed mafia game. The point of the game is to eliminate the allied spies before they can eliminate and outrun the soviets (mafia scum vs town in general mafia terms). Basically I PM players what they are and what their role is, and when the game begins, players try to figure out who is who (or what), based on other players' actions during day (battle phase) and night (plan phase) and act accordingly (vote for players to lynch or try to attack them directly by themselves or use their special role actions). This type of Mafia game is easy to run, usually it lasts a week or two in case of forum game version, and it could be also run as chat version game too (instead of forum game, where the game lasted around 30 mins up to an hour on our Teamspeak). Unlike some movie/game themed mafia games I did run, I usually didn't have much trouble with them and since there were no additional lore, video or gfx work, I could to run them almost anytime. With my busy schedule and a lot of other gaming it also fits my taste as well. Let me know if you would like to participate - we have already established in last interest thread to run this next Friday when we'll reach the minimal sign ups count. You would need to be active on the forum at least twice a day when the game is run so you won't miss doing your actions (forum game phases last 24 hours up to 48 hours where you need to decide your actions). For each game, I'll need at least 7 players to make the game last for at least a week, but the more players the better (up to 10-12 is ideal for each game, for voice-chat version it's 5-10). Game UPDATE: The fourth forum game version could start next Friday 2nd of December at 10 PM UTC/GMT (subject to change based on feedback). Voice/Chat version (on TS) will be scheduled if there is enough interest (they are quick & fun, the last streak was three games per event!) - when this game is complete. Day (Battle) phases will last 48 hours max, while night (Plan Phase) will last max 24 hours, meaning that if you want to participate, you should check and check each day at least once or twice to complete your actions. Though the more you participate the better, as the game becomes more active and fun. All roles and sides will be randomized before game starts, if you want to have a specific role, PM me in advance. there's a guide how to create a role below. Signed Players (from interest thread): Killing You Jeod Isaac The Madd ChopBam Nodlied (needs to confirm) FRAYDO Category 5 Hurricane Chaos_Knight GeneralCamo Voe Mojoman (minimum 7 players, max 20) Game Progress: DAY 1 NIGHT 1 DAY 2 NIGHT 2 DAY 3 NIGHT 3 DAY 4 NIGHT 4 DAY 5 NIGHT 5 DAY 6 - Game End Chat (TeamSpeak) Game Progress: not scheduled yet If you're new to mafia forum gaming, or you want to know details how this is played, check the info below. How to Play APB Mafia Chat/Forum Game The concept is pretty simple, similar to classic mafia, with few additions. All general mafia standard rules will apply, but the phases will be literary only few minutes short with few little extra rules (bolded). All together one game shouldn't last more than one hour, but it can last only 20-30 minutes as well! The game is about classic RA:APB Base infiltrated by spies. There are Allied Spies (mafia) and Soviet Soldiers (town). The Soviets greatly outnumber the Allies (>=25%). However, none of the Soviets know who the Allies are at first, while Allies start with their own google doc where they can discuss the game anytime they want. The game is broken up into two phases: Battle Phase (classic Day phase) and a Plan Phase (classic Night phase). In Forum Game version, these phases last from 24 up to 48 hours, in chat game version, these phases last from 5 up to 10 minutes (chat version is being played with all players at the same time, while forum version is played whenever players are active). *** During the Battle Phase (DAY), everyone talks and tries to build cases against each other directly in the forum chat. While the Soviets are arguing to try and find the Allies, the Allies are trying to throw everyone off their trail. The goal of the Battle Phase is to find somebody for a Lynch. People will vote for one person they want to be lynched and the person with the most votes will die at the end of the day. Your vote should be in this format: ##Vote PlayerName If you decide to change your vote, you must first ##unvote (player name not required but is helpful) or you can simply vote another player if you already know who. Note: As per previous game suggestion, we might have a forced voting mechanism starting Day 2 - more info on that during day post. If a majority vote of over 50% is cast on one person, then they will be lynched right then and there, no need to wait for the end of the phase. When someone is lynched, everyone will find out their role and who they were aligned with. During the Battle Phase, players are also allowed to use their battle actions, such as ##shoot, etc. which will be resolved instantly. If the target players dies, he will be eliminated from the game and the game will continue (his vote will no longer be counted). All BP/day actions need to be acknowledged by the mod before they are counted (just simple line to acknowledge so you know it came through, Current Vote Counts (or CVC) will appear periodically to inform you about the time remaining as well as the current vote status). Remember, without the mod acknowledge line, your vote or action doesn't count, so please don't do actions before the previous one was resolved. If it was missed, please use ##TIMEOUT command to stop the game, but only if it's really required (otherwise just repeat your action). All players are required to participate in chat, if one player stays quiet whole phase he/she might get role blocked for the next plan phase. *** During the Plan Phase (NIGHT), Allies will have to decide to kill a Soviet player. They must also decide who will make the kill. However, certain people in both the Allies and Soviets have special roles they can use during the night to kill, protect, disrupt, or gather information. Some roles carry a certain risk while others give a little more freedom. When the new Battle Phase begins, everyone will see who has died during the night and find out what side they were on and what role they had. Plan/Night actions are done classic way by the Private Message, same as resolved action replies. If you have a night action and do not inform me by PM in advance before the next Battle phase begins (preferably asap, but not later than one hour before the game starts), otherwise you do nothing that night. Forum Posting during the Night/Plan Phase is limited - 2 posts per player max. Players who won't comply will either receive a gimmick or a force vote on themselves. *** The Soviets win when they have eliminated the Allied threat (all allied players must die). The Allies win when they have managed to dispose of enough Soviets to outnumber them (or equal before plan phase). If there are any Neutrals in game, they will win if they survive until the game ends with any of the factions winning. Any Third Party (TP) player wins if they meet a certain winning condition, or when they eliminate everyone else. There are also extra guidelines which are posted in the general thread, but let's recap the main ones for those who are new: Try to stick to the timetable Await your Role PM soon before the game starts, if you have any questions, let me know before we start, since after that I won't have time to check PMs The Chat system always displays time intervals for each 5 mins. That's a good way to see whether there is a hammer (end of Battle Phase after 10 mins from start) or new phase starts, since our phases will change in 5-10 min intervals as well... If I'm not present in the chat (crash/outage) when the battle phase starts or is on the way, please wait for me and we'll start over in next five mins (basically game is on hold when I'm not there) If resolving will take longer than expected (PM spam, etc), then I'll notify you and we'll start the next BP in the next 5 min interval Please be civil! No spamming or swearing. It's just a game. Let's have fun! If you are not in the game, please DO NOT post game related stuff in chat! DO NOT discuss the game outside of the thread unless you are specifically given permission by me. DO NOT quote private mod communications. DO NOT attempt to break the game. No trying to get people to make toxx clauses, encryption, or fake day actions. Basically, if you're about to post something you're a little too proud of as a way of breaking the game, think twice before posting. Good luck! Player Roles, Flavor & Factions Now as far as flavor and roles go, there's gonna be a little twist, but I'll try to start with really easy and simple settings. The flavor will be the classic Soviet base infiltrated by the allies (we can try different flavors once the pilot is success, or continue with the APB if people wish for it). Now here's the twist. For every game, few roles that might turn up in game will be revealed before the game starts, so you know what you're up against (something like in epicmafia), but there will also be few mystery roles and also, I'll let players themselves to design their roles using some available abilities and combinations, which will make it a bit more interesting. So you can end up picking a role that is already listed, or you can go for the mystery role, or, you can design or your own role. Infantry, vehicles, or even buildings, you name it. This epic concept can make every game different. There will be no crazy roles since I'm going to develop an easy inst-resolving mechanic so therefore the role abilities during night will have certain rules in order to work (what action does what, what is the order for resolving, priorities, action resolving messages, etc). For people who don't like vanilla (=ordinary) roles, you're lucky since I'm gonna put every role some available actions at least. To stay true to the RA: APB flavor, even basic rifle soldiers will be able to shoot others, though ofc there will be a chance of missing or getting your weapon stuck. The only role which doesn't have any special abilities currently is the Neutral Civilian. Other advanced roles will be mostly useful during the night phases where classic investigations, tracking/spying, body-guarding and standard mafia killing take place. We'll see if there will be a need for google docs as well but I can assure you mafia will be able to communicate in doc, at least. Game Specifics: We have a new Role Sheet with brand new Aerial Units! (click for large) The Concept of Air units is simple - technically they are vehicles, but it only applies when they take off! So until then happens (first plan/night phase action), they are ordinary vanilla units (can't shoot, no armor/bullet proofs). However, when they do take off, they'll gain the ability to ##shoot, vehicle armor, and in case of Allied Longbow - Night Kill ability. Soviet Mig and YAK have special kill bonuses during the day. All air vehicles are able to re-arm when they land, if there is an equivalent of their associated landing facility (Airfield or Helipad). Soviet Airfield also has the ability to create a Masonry (aka known team via a doc) with any aircraft that will re-arm (the aircraft must first take off, shoot and land - so it takes at least to 2 days and 2 nights to execute). Even if the soviet airplanes die, the Airfield can still dispatch a badger each second night to bomb a building (other units are not affected). If there is already an air unit capable of bombing on it's own, this ability will activate when it's destroyed. Same for Allied Helipad - when all friendly longbows are destroyed, it can dispatch allied air force strike, which basically replaces the standard Allied Mafia Kill (if there are still other allied units in game, they can perform their own night action instead of NK). Whether or not allied longbows have to re-arm to perform a night kill depends on the game setup (how player factions are divided as well as how many NKs can there be in game). Lastly, Soviets have also a new defense unit, the Soviet Sam Site - in case there will be longbows, you can expect a sam site as basic anti air counter. You can pick one of the classic roles that are listed above, but you can also pick the mystery role not listed in this sheet (previous mystery roles won't be available, at least for some time). Only one mystery role is allowed per each game. This role won't be revealed until the actual game ends, and it can have any alignment. There might not be a mystery role in game however, depending on other roles. You can also create/design your own, custom role. Here are the guidelines: As you can see every role has one Battle Phase (BP - Day) Action and one Plan Phase (PP - Night) Action. Your designed role can't have more actions either. Scum players have the Standard Mafia Kill as extra PP action in addition to their own actions but they cannot combine it during one PP. Your designed role needs to be RA or APB flavor with appropriate actions to the flavor (vehicles, animals and structures are allowed). Vehicles are Bullet Proof during during the day except if other vehicle or Anti vehicle infantry shoot them. Buildings are immune to lynching. As you can notice, all BP actions have a "weapon stuck" chance and "kill success" rate (which are two dice rolls needed to execute that action), and PP actions have frequency and usage limits. Here's a formula which limits the unit's actions to have them balanced vs each other: KILL PERCENTAGE = Kill Success Chance - Weapon Stuck Chance (from -100 to 100 by 25% intervals only) -100% < KILL PERCENTAGE < -50% -> Unit is able to perform one unstoppable kill during Plan Phase or very Special rare Action. -50% < KILL PERCENTAGE < 0% -> Unit is able to become BP for a limited duration or perform multiple protect/support actions on others without frequency limits KILL PERCENTAGE = 25% -> Unit is able to perform a scouting/investigating ability without frequency limits KILL PERCENTAGE = 50% -> Unit is able to perform a scouting ability but with limited frequency KILL PERCENTAGE = 75% -> Unit is able to do only one limited PP action which doesn't involve kill, support, protect, scout or investigate actions KILL PERCENTAGE = 100% -> Unit doesn't have a PP action. Here's an example. Let's say you want to protect one player each night (protective action). According to the formula your kill percentage shouldn't be bigger than 0%, which means your stuck weapon chance and success chance should be same. Let's say 50-50. Now for the flavor.You could be a heavy tank, serving as Armored shelter. Now if you want to have one BP ability, your frequency will drop so you can only protect every second phase. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killing_You Posted November 30, 2016 Report Share Posted November 30, 2016 I think you might have made a typo with the Shock Trooper's description. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeod Posted November 30, 2016 Report Share Posted November 30, 2016 Neat! I assume that once air vehicles take off, other vehicles can aim their turrets to the sky for a #shoot? Or is that limited to anti-air units only? The former is akin to APB and the latter is akin to RA. I think you might have made a typo with the Shock Trooper's description. Looks like the Heavy Tank description. Or perhaps it's one of them special units. Game Progress:Last Game End I do love this stark reminder that I kicked all your asses last game and only lost due to a technicality. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VERTi60 Posted November 30, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 30, 2016 Neat! I assume that once air vehicles take off, other vehicles can aim their turrets to the sky for a #shoot? Or is that limited to anti-air units only? The former is akin to APB and the latter is akin to RA. Well vehicles can shoot and kill them regardless where they are but if you check the roles mostly the vehicle destroyer roles will definitely score a kill when they are in air, so RPG/Rocket infantry will do better than standard vehicles when they are in air but not as good when they are on ground I think you might have made a typo with the Shock Trooper's description. Looks like the Heavy Tank description. Or perhaps it's one of them special units. Heavy tank was missing, now it's up there. Not sure if I should keep shocky as classic but I let it there as I wanted to phase out kapitan as blocker in the future and only keep the shocky as blocker. Game Progress: Last Game End I do love this stark reminder that I kicked all your asses last game and only lost due to a technicality. Don't brag too much or else they'll lynch you D1 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killing_You Posted November 30, 2016 Report Share Posted November 30, 2016 Well, the Officer roleblocks every night and reveals the target's role, while the Shocky is a vehicle killer. I think they're different enough to coexist. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VERTi60 Posted November 30, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 30, 2016 Yea but officer only had the role block as there wasn't any other unit, but no there is 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeod Posted November 30, 2016 Report Share Posted November 30, 2016 Don't brag too much or else they'll lynch you D1 They can try. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killing_You Posted November 30, 2016 Report Share Posted November 30, 2016 Fair enough, but the role revealing thing is too useful to go to waste. Just ask iLikeToSnipe 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mojoman Posted December 1, 2016 Report Share Posted December 1, 2016 I'm game 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FRAYDO Posted December 1, 2016 Report Share Posted December 1, 2016 Sign me up! Signed Players (from interest thread): Killing You Jeod Isaac The Madd ChopBam Nodlied (needs to confirm) FRAYDO Category 5 Hurricane Chaos_Knight GeneralCamo Voe Sign me up times two! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VERTi60 Posted December 1, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 1, 2016 Guys don't forget to send me your preferences. Don't be afraid to ask for a crazy or mystery role or something which we didn't have yet from RA: APB I've already got some suggestions to make it interesting though. I'm game Welcome. Sign me up! Signed Players (from interest thread): Killing You Jeod Isaac The Madd ChopBam Nodlied (needs to confirm) FRAYDO Category 5 Hurricane Chaos_Knight GeneralCamo Voe Sign me up times two! Fair enough, but the role revealing thing is too useful to go to waste. Just ask iLikeToSnipe Yea I was only talking about the blocking part, ofc the interrogation part would stay It's just if both kapitan and shoky were in game it would be unnecessary blocking fest (and redundant). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeod Posted December 1, 2016 Report Share Posted December 1, 2016 Is it Friday yet? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VERTi60 Posted December 1, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 1, 2016 Not yet, you need to go to sleep once more 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeod Posted December 1, 2016 Report Share Posted December 1, 2016 Darn...at least I can spend the day chucking to myself about all the ridiculous ways Voe and Category 5 Hurricane will try to interpret my avatar. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VERTi60 Posted December 1, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 1, 2016 But it's not time for the Death Note Mafia yet 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeod Posted December 1, 2016 Report Share Posted December 1, 2016 But it's not time for the Death Note Mafia yet I AM JUSTICE! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killing_You Posted December 1, 2016 Report Share Posted December 1, 2016 He'll take a potato chip... AND HE'LL EAT IT! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeod Posted December 1, 2016 Report Share Posted December 1, 2016 Can't wait to try this out. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killing_You Posted December 1, 2016 Report Share Posted December 1, 2016 (inb4 MPRA is sandbag wall) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nodlied Posted December 1, 2016 Report Share Posted December 1, 2016 You know what? Fine. Won't be super active during the first few phases (as of today's planning), but should be more active afterwards. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Category 5 Hurricane Posted December 1, 2016 Report Share Posted December 1, 2016 But it's not time for the Death Note Mafia yet I AM JUSTICE! It's funny you should say that. Because, I think you'll find that I am Justice. ##SHOOT Jeod 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isaac The Madd Posted December 1, 2016 Report Share Posted December 1, 2016 Burk burk, defensive Doge. ##bite Voe 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeod Posted December 1, 2016 Report Share Posted December 1, 2016 But it's not time for the Death Note Mafia yet I AM JUSTICE! It's funny you should say that. Because, I think you'll find that I am Justice. ##SHOOT Jeod Still butthurt over last game? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChopBam Posted December 1, 2016 Report Share Posted December 1, 2016 I say we lynch Jeod D1 and force him to just watch the rest of the game. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeod Posted December 1, 2016 Report Share Posted December 1, 2016 I say we lynch Jeod D1 and force him to just watch the rest of the game. You'd get bored quickly. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChopBam Posted December 1, 2016 Report Share Posted December 1, 2016 You must think you're amazing. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeod Posted December 1, 2016 Report Share Posted December 1, 2016 Well, considering the past game, imagine what I could to do scum to make them think they can win by taking an action that in reality destroys them? All I'm saying is that I have a very specific set of skills...skills that are worth being patient for. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Category 5 Hurricane Posted December 2, 2016 Report Share Posted December 2, 2016 I think you think too highly of your performance. You say you lost on a technicality, I saw town lost on a technicality. Chaos and I lynched you, but the board made VERTi60 think we didn't. That's besides the fact that you said so many things that flagged me towards you all game, that the only thing that saved you was the fact you were a building. The only person who has done as well as you talk about yourself, is Voe in the game where he was the Officer. And perhaps iLikeToSnipe in DeadSpace. Don't get me wrong, you did well. You're just way more proud about it than you should be. Going back even further to a game I wasn't in, pzeper also had a legendary performance in one game. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeod Posted December 2, 2016 Report Share Posted December 2, 2016 It's all in good fun. I like to provoke. Gets the enthusiasm going. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killing_You Posted December 2, 2016 Report Share Posted December 2, 2016 But it's not time for the Death Note Mafia yet I AM JUSTICE! It's funny you should say that. Because, I think you'll find that I am Justice. ##SHOOT Jeod [battle Action] Category 5 is attempting to shoot Jeod - please STANDBY for result ! [battle Action Result - SUCCESS] Category 5 shoots and kills Jeod, the Scummy Scumfuck! [battle Action Result - FAIL] Jeod gets back up, as the game has yet to start! (I know, I know, this was stupid. But I couldn't resist ) Well, considering the past game, imagine what I could to do scum to make them think they can win by taking an action that in reality destroys them? All I'm saying is that I have a very specific set of skills...skills that are worth being patient for. Slightly off topic, but I read that in L's voice, and I'm starting to read all of your posts that way. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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