Retaliation Posted August 13, 2017 Report Share Posted August 13, 2017 You would probably be fine with saying the items name and if it's ability has been unlocked. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killing_You Posted August 13, 2017 Report Share Posted August 13, 2017 On 8/13/2017 at 2:24 AM, OrangeP47 said: So just to be sure, you all are saying this is the time to roleclaim? Expand Yep. Full roleclaim. Tell us everything. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeP47 Posted August 13, 2017 Report Share Posted August 13, 2017 On 8/13/2017 at 2:27 AM, Category 5 Hurricane said: With all this hemming and hawing, there has to be only one thing that scum would think OrangeP47 can do. Despite the fact that he's pretty much narrowed down all possibilites pretty well with his claims of doom and gloom, he's resisting actually claiming anything, as if he still has something he needs to hide from someone. I think the only reason why you shouldn't claim, is if your role is actually much weaker than you've been making it sound. Expand Well, as I've said, that's just how I am. I thought I was getting better, but obviously that's not the case. I've got a bulletproof vest, which allows me to stand in front of someone and save them. It unlocked N2 and ever sense I've stood in front of Cat 5. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Category 5 Hurricane Posted August 13, 2017 Report Share Posted August 13, 2017 Oh, wow. That's actually very interesting. Not at all what I was thinking. And it even fits into the story, because Archduke Ferdinand owned one. What kind of actions do you protect from? Just kills? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retaliation Posted August 13, 2017 Report Share Posted August 13, 2017 On 8/13/2017 at 2:32 AM, OrangeP47 said: Well, as I've said, that's just how I am. I thought I was getting better, but obviously that's not the case. I've got a bulletproof vest, which allows me to stand in front of someone and save them. It unlocked N2 and ever sense I've stood in front of Cat 5. Expand What did it unlock in response to? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Category 5 Hurricane Posted August 13, 2017 Report Share Posted August 13, 2017 If I were to guess, a BP vest would unlock at the same time as NKs. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeP47 Posted August 13, 2017 Report Share Posted August 13, 2017 On 8/13/2017 at 2:36 AM, Category 5 Hurricane said: Oh, wow. That's actually very interesting. Not at all what I was thinking. And it even fits into the story, because Archduke Ferdinand owned one. What kind of actions do you protect from? Just kills? Expand Just kills, I'm pretty sure. On 8/13/2017 at 2:38 AM, Retaliation said: What did it unlock in response to? Expand It didn't say. Either world tension, or maybe scum unlocking. As Cat 5 just ninja'd me, I'd point out the distinction may as well be academic, actually. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killing_You Posted August 13, 2017 Report Share Posted August 13, 2017 I have to admit, I didn't expect there to be a doctor in this game. Personally, I believe you. Not much I can do, since my vote is still placed firmly on Verti. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Category 5 Hurricane Posted August 13, 2017 Report Share Posted August 13, 2017 I don't think they steal from me and try to kill me at the same time. Where did the N2 NK go if that is true? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeP47 Posted August 13, 2017 Report Share Posted August 13, 2017 On 8/13/2017 at 2:41 AM, Category 5 Hurricane said: I don't think they steal from me and try to kill me at the same time. Where did the N2 NK go if that is true? Expand I'm one possible answer, I suppose, but I didn't speak up at the time because A) Roleclaiming is typically bad, especially like that, and B) It was only one possible reason. Just because I guarded you doesn't mean blocking the kill *is* what happened, after all. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retaliation Posted August 13, 2017 Report Share Posted August 13, 2017 I don't buy it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Category 5 Hurricane Posted August 13, 2017 Report Share Posted August 13, 2017 Yeah, I think we all thought it was more natural that if lynches can't happen, NKs can't happen. @Retaliation I'm not sure if it matters if we buy it. If he's telling the truth, he's dead. We may as well find out if he's lying and get on with it. The BP role will be removed, but it'll still be in play, and the person nominated gets to decide where it goes. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Category 5 Hurricane Posted August 13, 2017 Report Share Posted August 13, 2017 Or, if he's lying, his story suggests he visited me N2, because he did, when he stole from me. We'll find the Spy Glass and maybe we'll find him hostile. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Category 5 Hurricane Posted August 13, 2017 Report Share Posted August 13, 2017 In both cases, I think the best course of action is to investigate him. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retaliation Posted August 13, 2017 Report Share Posted August 13, 2017 On 8/13/2017 at 2:45 AM, Category 5 Hurricane said: Yeah, I think we all thought it was more natural that if lynches can't happen, NKs can't happen. @Retaliation I'm not sure if it matters if we buy it. If he's telling the truth, he's dead. We may as well find out if he's lying and get on with it. The BP role will be removed, but it'll still be in play, and the person nominated gets to decide where it goes. Expand Oh you can pass items to people from the vault? That's handy. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mojoman Posted August 13, 2017 Report Share Posted August 13, 2017 @Category 5 Hurricane Sorry I had to make a sudden change of plans last night. I was going to go the chaos reigns route but had a change of heart, thankfully. The item was passed to someome we didn't discuss. That doesn't discredit you at all as reliable. I just realized scum have a tracker of some sort. So putting two and two together (us saying we were in a doc and then a pass action) you would havr become a more tempting target to steal from. Apologies I didn't discuss it with you, it was a laat minute decision. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Category 5 Hurricane Posted August 13, 2017 Report Share Posted August 13, 2017 ............................................................................................................................................................................................................................ The claimed tracker was locked up. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retaliation Posted August 13, 2017 Report Share Posted August 13, 2017 On 8/13/2017 at 1:29 AM, Retaliation said: Poor Mojo has a hard time following orders . Expand 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mojoman Posted August 13, 2017 Report Share Posted August 13, 2017 'Claimed' tracker. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Category 5 Hurricane Posted August 13, 2017 Report Share Posted August 13, 2017 Is there something else besides Chaos' claim that makes you think scum has a tracker? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos_Knight Posted August 13, 2017 Report Share Posted August 13, 2017 On 8/13/2017 at 11:02 AM, Category 5 Hurricane said: Is there something else besides Chaos' claim that makes you think scum has a tracker? Expand Btw, I've re-checked something. Since I've remembered a small detail from Jeod's claim. Basically, this: On 8/9/2017 at 9:17 PM, Jeod said: I can prove my claim by telling what Irish did N2. I wouldn't be surprised if there were two trackers, or a scum tracker. Expand Jeod wasn't a tracker. He was a watcher (person who sees people's action, not target). Just saying. Now after a quick check on the topic: On 8/12/2017 at 10:08 PM, Category 5 Hurricane said: Irish, I've got a question for you. Why the crusade on nationality? Do you think that matters in any significant way? Expand Since "Investigate all Serbs" was originally my idea, gonna elaborate a bit. As we know from my evidence (idk how true it is but historically seems so), Black Hand operated in Serbia. Thus every Serb (suspicious or not) might have some extra bits on them even if they are told they carry no evidence. On 8/12/2017 at 10:38 PM, Retaliation said: I could pass off my item to someone else and see if he can tell who I pass it off to. Expand Alright. Should be trackable. On 8/13/2017 at 12:08 AM, VERTi60 said: Funny how both OrangeP47 and CK are doing the same when they are about to get investigated, shifting attention back to me. So really for the last fucking time. I didn't have a problem being investigated, I'm still innocent status. But the reason scum started killing I now don't want to waste an investigation clearing me if that doesn't give us any evidence nor bring us close to determining who's the thief and/or killer. I am not since I've already claimed to be a vanilla backup role. You can go on calling me being dodgy but all you do is making yourself suspicious. Expand And funny how you "volonteer" to be investigated as per my earlier idea and yet do your best to dodge it by all means neccessary. Totally nothing suspicious. Totally nothing odd about a "vanilla" role in a game where everyone seems to have their purpose eighter through actions or items or both. I'd vote ya, but I don't want to put you on hammer -1 On 8/13/2017 at 12:08 AM, VERTi60 said: Also since I have nothing else to do I don't have a problem being tracked or receiving items or going to vault. Expand Oh you wish, you'd go the vault, eh? On 8/13/2017 at 2:32 AM, OrangeP47 said: Well, as I've said, that's just how I am. I thought I was getting better, but obviously that's not the case. I've got a bulletproof vest, which allows me to stand in front of someone and save them. It unlocked N2 and ever sense I've stood in front of Cat 5. Expand Bodyguard huh. So you said you got it N2. This brings a question though as to when kill attempts actually started. I've noticed nobody was surprised that N1 and N2 had no deaths. Which could be explained by the RPG-like setup of the game but still. On 8/13/2017 at 2:39 AM, Category 5 Hurricane said: If I were to guess, a BP vest would unlock at the same time as NKs. Expand That would make sense. But then there was no kills on N2... Would that mean that Orange saved ya on N2 or that FRAYDO is a lone killer rather than part of a scum team? Good questions. On 8/13/2017 at 3:55 AM, Mojoman said: That doesn't discredit you at all as reliable. I just realized scum have a tracker of some sort. Expand Are you saying that there's a 3rd "spying" role in this game? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VERTi60 Posted August 13, 2017 Report Share Posted August 13, 2017 On 8/13/2017 at 12:10 PM, Chaos_Knight said: On 8/13/2017 at 12:08 AM, VERTi60 said: Funny how both OrangeP47 and CK are doing the same when they are about to get investigated, shifting attention back to me. So really for the last fucking time. I didn't have a problem being investigated, I'm still innocent status. But the reason scum started killing I now don't want to waste an investigation clearing me if that doesn't give us any evidence nor bring us close to determining who's the thief and/or killer. I am not since I've already claimed to be a vanilla backup role. You can go on calling me being dodgy but all you do is making yourself suspicious. Expand And funny how you "volonteer" to be investigated as per my earlier idea and yet do your best to dodge it by all means neccessary. Totally nothing suspicious. Totally nothing odd about a "vanilla" role in a game where everyone seems to have their purpose eighter through actions or items or both. I'd vote ya, but I don't want to put you on hammer -1 Expand Best? All I'm saying that now it's too late to clear me when we have a murderer and a thief on the loose. If you think I'm one of those raise your arguments why at least. I was absent for two game phases where you could have investigated me or on the 3rd when I joined. I thought we would have more time until WT raises 60% but seems like the game is set to favor early kills but not lynching. If you want to waste time with me that's your problem but from my perspective we now don't have that luxury. 3 hours ago, Chaos_Knight said: On 8/13/2017 at 12:08 AM, VERTi60 said: Also since I have nothing else to do I don't have a problem being tracked or receiving items or going to vault. Expand Oh you wish, you'd go the vault, eh? Expand Yes I feel like I'm only fed information second hand, I need to see how things are for myself. I don't have any actions, at least you claim you can track people. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos_Knight Posted August 13, 2017 Report Share Posted August 13, 2017 On 8/13/2017 at 3:56 PM, VERTi60 said: Best? All I'm saying that now it's too late to clear me when we have a murderer and a thief on the loose. Expand You think it's 2 different people? On 8/13/2017 at 3:56 PM, VERTi60 said: I thought we would have more time until WT raises 60% but seems like the game is set to favor early kills but not lynching. Expand Well, technically, after considering some things and implications of the player status (suspicious/hostile), I would even say that investigation is all around better than lynching for us since people who haven't done anything wrong won't be killed off. Will it remove the killer threat? Hm, hard to tell. Jeod said that his attempt to grenade me made him suspicious (which was later confirmed on his death). I am willing to bet that successful murderer is at very least suspicious atm, and 2nd kill would make them hostile if the 1st one hasn't done so already. So all in all, I honestly doubt that we actually NEED lynching to remove the threat. On 8/13/2017 at 3:56 PM, VERTi60 said: If you want to waste time with me that's your problem but from my perspective we now don't have that luxury. Expand Well, we wasted time on me yesterday, and thief got away. It's not a waste from my perspective, considering all the odd claimed details about your role. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mojoman Posted August 13, 2017 Report Share Posted August 13, 2017 So a couple hours until hammer, do we have consensus for future actions? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retaliation Posted August 13, 2017 Report Share Posted August 13, 2017 So to summarize Orange's role claim, he is a bodyguard that started without access to his item ability and gained access Night 2. Am I correct? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retaliation Posted August 13, 2017 Report Share Posted August 13, 2017 Oh and nodlied never told him why. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nodlied Posted August 13, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 13, 2017 On 8/13/2017 at 12:08 AM, VERTi60 said: ##vote investigate OrangeP47 Expand Counted On 8/13/2017 at 12:25 AM, Category 5 Hurricane said: ##unvote Expand Assuming you meant to unvote the investigation? In that case, counted! On 8/13/2017 at 12:26 AM, FRAYDO said: ##votenominate Category5 Expand Counted 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retaliation Posted August 13, 2017 Report Share Posted August 13, 2017 I see we have some illegal aliens voting for cat5 there.... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos_Knight Posted August 13, 2017 Report Share Posted August 13, 2017 On 8/13/2017 at 5:57 PM, Retaliation said: I see we have some illegal aliens voting for cat5 there.... Expand Quite literally aliens (not sure how illegal) since 32 487 234 578 people voted for him while Earth population is about 7 billion. I'd say he has universal support of about 3-5 planets besides ours. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retaliation Posted August 13, 2017 Report Share Posted August 13, 2017 On 8/13/2017 at 6:17 PM, Chaos_Knight said: Quite literally aliens (not sure how illegal) since 32 487 234 578 people voted for him while Earth population is about 7 billion. I'd say he has universal support of about 3-5 planets besides ours. Expand Are you suggesting xenos presence on Holy Terra isn't illegal?! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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