Games [Game Over] Star Wars Mafia: Jedi vs Sith

[Jeod]

I believe I see a solution. Am I allowed to make a guess?

[VERTi60]

Just now, Jeod said:

I believe I see a solution. Am I allowed to make a guess?

Sure.

[Shade939]

Just now, Jeod said:

I believe I see a solution. Am I allowed to make a guess?

Unless Voe can deal 42 damage with his force ability I don't think he can win?

[VERTi60]

Just now, Shade939 said:

Unless Voe can deal 42 damage with his force ability I don't think he can win?

He still can. But it will require at least two very lucky turns for him.

[Jeod]

RS is +0 with +30 stamina.

Voe's FM is a +1 with ##disarming slash

Voe's Strength is 1*Roll.

As Retaliation has 0 Defense, Voe needs his Attack outcome to be 42 or greater to win.

The max dice roll is 10, which makes the formula (0+10+10) [0+(1*10)+(1*10)]. So, the max attack Voe can do this turn is 20.

Assuming Voe also has a FC action, which is currently unknown, he could do more damage.

Am I close?

[Shade939]

1 minute ago, VERTi60 said:

He still can. But it will require at least two very lucky turns for him.

If he can stop Retal from attacking him this turn, then he should be able to just play the odds and kill him with an offensive stance next turn since he's practically defenseless.

[Retaliation]

In hindsight I overextended with my maneuver myself :v.

[VERTi60]

Just now, Jeod said:

RS is +0 with +30 stamina.

Voe's FM is a +1 with ##disarming slash

Voe's Strength is 1*Roll.

As Retaliation has 0 Defense, Voe needs his Attack outcome to be 42 or greater to win.

The max dice roll is 10, which makes the formula (0+10+10) [0+(1*10)+(1*10)]. So, the max attack Voe can do this turn is 20.

Assuming Voe also has a FC action, which is currently unknown, he could do more damage.

Am I close?

Voe can't attack this turn at all, the ##Center of Being has no attack and doesn't give a bonus for strength or dexterity.

He needs to wait it out and hope Retail will miss. On the 5th turn, he can then strike back.

[Jeod]

Knew it was missing something.

[Shade939]

2 minutes ago, Retaliation said:

In hindsight I overextended with my maneuver myself :v.

Yeah, I have to agree with you on that one.

[VERTi60]

So you can now see what will happen in next turn heh? That's what I wanted to teach you.

[Retaliation]

What I didn't account for was that voe would lose all his stamina before his next turn so my form just ate stamina for no point.

[Sunflower]

13 hours ago, Category 5 Hurricane said:

I thought the challenged player goes first?

 

12 hours ago, Category 5 Hurricane said:

I can't seem to find why I thought this. Oh well.

You weren't imagining it. It was written like that in the PM character sheets.

"##Challenge <player> - if you don't have a Sith vote on you currently, you can challenge a player for a Duel (if that player accepts, the duel will start sooner with challenged player starting)"

[Voe]

Why did i lose stamina 3 times even though only 2 turns passed?

[Retaliation]

3 turns have passed. Vert is counting every time a player attacks as a full turn (or we would be on the bottom of turn 2 now).

[Voe]

I begin to question whether offensive stance is worth it

[Voe]

##center of being

[Voe]

oh and

##jedi ready

for the next turn

[VERTi60]

18 minutes ago, Sunflower said:

 

You weren't imagining it. It was written like that in the PM character sheets.

"##Challenge <player> - if you don't have a Sith vote on you currently, you can challenge a player for a Duel (if that player accepts, the duel will start sooner with challenged player starting)"

Yea I thought that would demotivate challengers. 

[VERTi60]

9 minutes ago, Voe said:

I begin to question whether offensive stance is worth it

For you it worked well 10 on first roll. And you can still win.

[Voe]

Just now, VERTi60 said:

For you it worked well 10 on first roll. And you can still win.

And then it failed vs a disarmed opponent on neutral stance. I even took damage.

[VERTi60]

Just now, Voe said:

And then it failed vs a disarmed opponent on neutral stance. I even took damage.

On that turn you could win already though. There was much bigger chance too.

[Retaliation]

Right now the problem is that we're misusing our forms. You're basically adding 1 attack power for 10 stam (twice) which is horrendous value. I'm doing the same for defense.

[OrangeP47]

Where did you guys get the list of forms btw, I can't find it, or did you get updated PMs?

[Retaliation]

I got mine in a PM update.

[Shade939]

To be fair, Voe basically went for all out offensive in the hopes of killing Retal before he could react, the natural problem being that duels wouldn't be balanced at all if whoever attacked first had a high probability of one-shooting their opponent before they could react.

[OrangeP47]

After people level up a few times that chance likely becomes higher.  We don't want to put all our eggs in one basket then that basket turns out to be the sith, or else we're screwed.

[VERTi60]

3 minutes ago, Retaliation said:

Right now the problem is that we're misusing our forms. You're basically adding 1 attack power for 10 stam (twice) which is horrendous value. I'm doing the same for defense.

Well voe actually saved stamina since he attacked twice instead of 2 attacks and defending in between too.

[Retaliation]

Just now, VERTi60 said:

Well voe actually saved stamina since he attacked twice instead of 2 attacks and defending in between too.

Oh definitely, but you can't rely on rolling a ten every combat round!

I feel like forms are for when you are just away from some sort of threshold and have the stamina advantage. Like my ward meant that if voe used jedi ready he would need to roll a 9 or 10 to kill me.

[VERTi60]

Well keep in mind there will be forms even more expensive.