Jeod Posted August 4, 2018 Report Share Posted August 4, 2018 Just now, OrangeP47 said: Here's the thing. If Shade was scummy or had malintent, I don't think he'd be this bold. I wouldn't call that play bold. He wanted the walkie yesterday, and now the cane today. "Dangerous in the hands of scum"--well, if the remaining scum is Cat5 as he suspects, then he only needs to keep Cat5 out of the vault. I say it's because you don't think this is something he would do is the reason he'd do it. He needs to be cleared. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeP47 Posted August 4, 2018 Report Share Posted August 4, 2018 1 minute ago, Jeod said: I wouldn't call that play bold. He wanted the walkie yesterday, and now the cane today. "Dangerous in the hands of scum"--well, if the remaining scum is Cat5 as he suspects, then he only needs to keep Cat5 out of the vault. I say it's because you don't think this is something he would do is the reason he'd do it. He needs to be cleared. Shade is nothing if not set in his ways. If he wasn't, we wouldn't still be playing 20 questions with him every game after so many games. If he had something to hide he'd be hiding it by staying low. At least that's my experience from Marvel Mafia. I'm thinking we need to find the killer, and it's either Cat 5 or KY. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeod Posted August 4, 2018 Report Share Posted August 4, 2018 Just now, OrangeP47 said: Shade is nothing if not set in his ways. If he wasn't, we wouldn't still be playing 20 questions with him every game after so many games. If he had something to hide he'd be hiding it by staying low. At least that's my experience from Marvel Mafia. I'm thinking we need to find the killer, and it's either Cat 5 or KY. Shade claimed KY visited me. Comment here. According to Shade, KY can't be the killer. In his mind, it's Cat5. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeP47 Posted August 4, 2018 Report Share Posted August 4, 2018 1 minute ago, Jeod said: Shade claimed KY visited me. Comment here. According to Shade, KY can't be the killer. In his mind, it's Cat5. Yeah, early on, like N1, when he told us you were not a threat because of your abilities. That doesn't account for what he's been up to RECENTLY. As it stands though, here's my logic on KY: He could have been investigating people AND killing, using 2 PP, and abstaining from voting. A scum/hostile role cop isn't unheard of in power madness games, and can actually be quite handy to figure out exactly what you're up against, and it seems like the kind of role KY would get. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeod Posted August 4, 2018 Report Share Posted August 4, 2018 To each their own, then. I'd forgotten KY visited me early on, but I don't see why that would make Shade discount him as the killer then. I'm sticking with Shade for today unless new information comes up. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeP47 Posted August 4, 2018 Report Share Posted August 4, 2018 Just now, Jeod said: To each their own, then. I'd forgotten KY visited me early on, but I don't see why that would make Shade discount him as the killer then. I'm sticking with Shade for today unless new information comes up. Honestly I don't know why Shade would discount him, but I suspect if you pressed even Shade wouldn't know why That's just the way he is. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shade939 Posted August 4, 2018 Report Share Posted August 4, 2018 17 hours ago, Shade939 said: Ok, unless Killing_You is scum or he can somehow overlooking killing items/actions on a character, only three players could have killed FRAYDO. OrangeP47, Category 5 Hurricane, and Retaliation. ... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shade939 Posted August 4, 2018 Report Share Posted August 4, 2018 If you don't remove K_Y from that list based on his ability, then literally every player in game except for me and Sunflower could have killed FRAYDO. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeP47 Posted August 4, 2018 Report Share Posted August 4, 2018 11 minutes ago, Shade939 said: If you don't remove K_Y from that list based on his ability, then literally every player in game except for me and Sunflower could have killed FRAYDO. To be fair, some things only unlock at certain stability I think, items/abilities could have been hidden perhaps. We DO have a large pool, but the people I'm not considering I'm largely confident didn't do it for other reasons. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shade939 Posted August 4, 2018 Report Share Posted August 4, 2018 1 minute ago, OrangeP47 said: To be fair, some things only unlock at certain stability I think, items/abilities could have been hidden perhaps. We DO have a large pool, but the people I'm not considering I'm largely confident didn't do it for other reasons. And might I go ahead and ask about your nomination for the vault? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeP47 Posted August 4, 2018 Report Share Posted August 4, 2018 1 minute ago, Shade939 said: And might I go ahead and ask about your nomination for the vault? I'm going to mull over who I nominate awhile longer I may not have you in the lead for the investigation, but that doesn't mean I trust you THAT much 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shade939 Posted August 4, 2018 Report Share Posted August 4, 2018 Just now, OrangeP47 said: I'm going to mull over who I nominate awhile longer I may not have you in the lead for the investigation, but that doesn't mean I trust you THAT much You know, FRAYDO only had one victory condition based on keep my alive. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeP47 Posted August 4, 2018 Report Share Posted August 4, 2018 Just now, Shade939 said: You know, FRAYDO only had one victory condition based on keep my alive. If all of what you said is true, you do realize how great a risk you've put yourself in by coming out with it, right? Though speaking of Monarchies, Sunflower and I had an idea for an English Civil War style game that would have featured royal actors. If Nodlied actually did put them in this game, that's yet another thing I can be accused of ripping off of him 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shade939 Posted August 4, 2018 Report Share Posted August 4, 2018 Just now, OrangeP47 said: If all of what you said is true, you do realize how great a risk you've put yourself in by coming out with it, right? Though speaking of Monarchies, Sunflower and I had an idea for an English Civil War style game that would have featured royal actors. If Nodlied actually did put them in this game, that's yet another thing I can be accused of ripping off of him If they can kill me now... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeP47 Posted August 4, 2018 Report Share Posted August 4, 2018 Just now, Shade939 said: If they can kill me now... Bold 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retaliation Posted August 4, 2018 Report Share Posted August 4, 2018 10 hours ago, TheIrishman said: Yeah, I am. I'm assuming we only go Hostile when we perform a truly Hostile action, like murder or attempted murder. I thought you said you turned Hostile from CK targeting you or something for July Crisis? Chaos only accelerated turning hostile. You also turned hostile from using those kinds of actions a bunch. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nodlied Posted August 4, 2018 Author Report Share Posted August 4, 2018 9 hours ago, OrangeP47 said: ##investigate Cat 5 8 hours ago, Jeod said: ##investigate Shade939 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shade939 Posted August 4, 2018 Report Share Posted August 4, 2018 So, are @Sunflower or @Killing_You going to show up and actually vote at some point to see if they triggered Irishman's trap or not? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeP47 Posted August 4, 2018 Report Share Posted August 4, 2018 Considering Sunflower was in jail, probably not her. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shade939 Posted August 4, 2018 Report Share Posted August 4, 2018 4 minutes ago, OrangeP47 said: Considering Sunflower was in jail, probably not her. Fair point, although I'm still curious if KY can actually vote or not and what implications that'll have. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheIrishman Posted August 5, 2018 Report Share Posted August 5, 2018 She told me to say... So I've reread my PMs and now I think I was roleblocked for N3. I've also asked Nodlied and have since been informed that my traps don't last more than a night. The reason why I think I was roleblocked N3 is because when I placed my trap on Orange, I was notified that I put my trap near him specifically, but when I placed my trap on Jeod, I was only told that I sucessfully voted and never had any mention of the trap. I mostly glossed over my PM at the time. This isn't very important information now that we know FRAYDO had the cane, but I thought I should let everyone know. Since I now know my own trap was used against me then I must've been redirected to myself, therefore I don't think we'll be able to catch the culprit of FRAYDO's murder via votes (although I still think we should all vote just in case). If we lose to the syndicate, the bus driver will be to blame :b And just for verification, Cat5, what kind of trap hit you? I've updated my chart to include night actions and the Vault Items category is supposed to be a separate column from the rest. Players Nationality Status Items Role Night One Night Two Night Three Night Four SQ/PL/A% Vault Items Jeod Galician Suspicious Crowbar Doctor Protect Vote A Jailed Vote A Pick Up Crowbar Vote Pick Up Walkie Vote C 100/0/0 Admiral’s Cane Category 5 ? Suspicious “None” ? Unknown Vote Visit Orange Vote B Unknown Vote Unknown Vote 33/33/33 Typewriter TheIrishman ? Suspicious ? Medkit Dayblocker Grab Medkit Vote Trap Orange Vote A Trap Jeod* Vote Trap FRAYDO (but ended up trapping self) Vote 33/33/33 Evidence Key FRAYDO Hungarian Dead Evidence Key Roleblocker Mason Shade Vote Pick Up Key Vote Roleblocked Irish? Vote Murdered 50/50/0 Sunflower Bohemian Suspicious None ? Unknown Vote Unknown Vote Unknown Vote A Jailed 90/0/10 Shade Austrian ? ? “Monarchy” Unknown Vote Unknown Vote Unknown Vote Unknown Vote 70/0/30 Killing_You ? ? ? Rolecop Cop Irish Vote Cop Jeod Vote Cop ? Vote Cop ? Vote 40/40/20 iLikeToSnipe Austrian Dead None Thief Unknown Vote A or D Steal Walkie Vote A or D Murdered ______ 0/0/100 OrangeP47 Austrian Innocent Evidence Key ? Track Vote – Jeod, A Vote C or D Unknown Vote C or D Tracked Cat5’s Vote, B Vote C or D Unknown Vote C 0/75/25 Retaliation Romanian Suspicious None Unknown Unknown Vote Unknown Vote Jailed Unknown Vote C 0/60/40 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheIrishman Posted August 5, 2018 Report Share Posted August 5, 2018 I should say that this chart might have missed information because I'm lazy and didn't feel like going back to check, but if anyone wants to add info, just tell me. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retaliation Posted August 5, 2018 Report Share Posted August 5, 2018 I object to the notion that I could possibly be abolishment. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeP47 Posted August 5, 2018 Report Share Posted August 5, 2018 Night 2 I checked Retal's vote, and I'll remind everyone, he was a good boy. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeP47 Posted August 5, 2018 Report Share Posted August 5, 2018 We also don't know for sure if everyone voted when they've been assumed to. Some people could have easily abstained a few times and gone unnoticed. It's easy cover. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shade939 Posted August 5, 2018 Report Share Posted August 5, 2018 FRAYDO would have mentioned if he had targeted you with his cane Irish. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shade939 Posted August 5, 2018 Report Share Posted August 5, 2018 I'll raise an obvious point that a bus driver could easily be an Abolishment member. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retaliation Posted August 5, 2018 Report Share Posted August 5, 2018 Then who is killing people? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeP47 Posted August 5, 2018 Report Share Posted August 5, 2018 Also, if FRAYDO was BOTH SQ and Pluralism, I'd be very interested to hear what "the monarchy" is 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shade939 Posted August 5, 2018 Report Share Posted August 5, 2018 2 minutes ago, Retaliation said: Then who is killing people? A bus driver can pretty easily get around towns defensive actions. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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