ChopBam Posted October 25, 2018 Report Share Posted October 25, 2018 1 minute ago, ChopBam said: I'd like to see our doctor report though to see who was protected, as well, to determine why we didn't have a NK. Oh I see he protect KY.... nvm this part then. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeP47 Posted October 25, 2018 Report Share Posted October 25, 2018 2 minutes ago, ChopBam said: Hey, wasn't Orange 80-90% sure that Nodlied was scum scum? There are things that really don't line up if Nodlied was scum, such as the fact that everybody voted for him. And the fact he was saying he wasn't scum, even after hammer, is also tickling my nerves that he wasn't actual scum. So, who did we all sorta agree this would turn back to, and who also was given a scum result by our mostly-trusty cop? OrangeP47. I still maintain though that it's unlikely he's the one doing/trying the kills because of his confirmed jailing action. HOWEVER, he could be a scum jailer. I tried tracking Sunflower because she's an unlikely nightkill target. So why did Orange jail her? From what I'm thinking in my mind it wasn't to protect her, but to keep her watchful eye from seeing anything. I'd like to see our doctor report though to see who was protected, as well, to determine why we didn't have a NK. Also I'd love to finally see flip reports now, thank God for Killing You. As I've said, I wanted to take care of the curse on Sunflower, and thought she was worthy of the gift, which she has confirmed to receive. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChopBam Posted October 25, 2018 Report Share Posted October 25, 2018 Just now, OrangeP47 said: As I've said, I wanted to take care of the curse on Sunflower, and thought she was worthy of the gift, which she has confirmed to receive. And are you still 80-90% sure Nodlied was scum? Or is that number lower right now? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nodlied Posted October 25, 2018 Report Share Posted October 25, 2018 1 minute ago, ChopBam said: thank God for Killing You. Thank god for killing who? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeP47 Posted October 25, 2018 Report Share Posted October 25, 2018 Just now, ChopBam said: And are you still 80-90% sure Nodlied was scum? Or is that number lower right now? If anything, it's higher, 95 to 100%. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChopBam Posted October 25, 2018 Report Share Posted October 25, 2018 2 minutes ago, OrangeP47 said: If anything, it's higher, 95 to 100%. Am I the only person not buying whatever backwards logic is going on here? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shade939 Posted October 25, 2018 Report Share Posted October 25, 2018 Just now, ChopBam said: Am I the only person not buying whatever backwards logic is going on here? Yep, do you think Nodlied had a passive that only killed undead that weren’t ghost? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeP47 Posted October 25, 2018 Report Share Posted October 25, 2018 Just now, ChopBam said: Am I the only person not buying whatever backwards logic is going on here? Nodlied was blocked on a night with no nightkill, then he claimed to do "nothing" the next night, a half-assed cover for when he could have easily done the night kill. Plus, he claims neutral when I'm already neutral, making the claim that neutral is overly packed in a setup such as this. I feel like I have the chops to back myself up too, given I'm one of the most confirmed players in the game. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shade939 Posted October 25, 2018 Report Share Posted October 25, 2018 Just now, OrangeP47 said: Nodlied was blocked on a night with no nightkill, then he claimed to do "nothing" the next night, a half-assed cover for when he could have easily done the night kill. Plus, he claims neutral when I'm already neutral, making the claim that neutral is overly packed in a setup such as this. I feel like I have the chops to back myself up too, given I'm one of the most confirmed players in the game. Until they get a phone call... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChopBam Posted October 25, 2018 Report Share Posted October 25, 2018 1 minute ago, OrangeP47 said: I'm one of the most confirmed players in the game. Minus that little cop report, eh? Bet that's just an oopsie. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeP47 Posted October 25, 2018 Report Share Posted October 25, 2018 Just now, ChopBam said: Minus that little cop report, eh? Bet that's just an oopsie. Neutral being guilty is a possibility. Again, "guilty of what?" is a good question, and it doesn't seem like even KY has the answer. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeP47 Posted October 25, 2018 Report Share Posted October 25, 2018 The wiki says the standard guilty/not-guilty cop only reports town as not-guilty. So therefore as neutral I'd be guilty. https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Cop 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeP47 Posted October 25, 2018 Report Share Posted October 25, 2018 Actually on second reading it doesn't actually say that, but it does say at GM's decision, so the point that neutral could be guilty still stands. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iLikeToSnipe Posted October 25, 2018 Report Share Posted October 25, 2018 Okay... @Killing_You why didn't you shoot the neutral with the guilty read? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iLikeToSnipe Posted October 25, 2018 Report Share Posted October 25, 2018 Something is reeeaaaaaalllllllyyyyy fishy with this setup. I almost feel like it's just town, neutrals, and third party. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeP47 Posted October 25, 2018 Report Share Posted October 25, 2018 1 minute ago, iLikeToSnipe said: Something is reeeaaaaaalllllllyyyyy fishy with this setup. I almost feel like it's just town, neutrals, and third party. TBH I've considered that as well, though not heavily. Something has to be going on to counteract the fact we didn't get public flips. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iLikeToSnipe Posted October 25, 2018 Report Share Posted October 25, 2018 3 minutes ago, OrangeP47 said: TBH I've considered that as well, though not heavily. Something has to be going on to counteract the fact we didn't get public flips. Just reread the D1 post, I feel like the wording confirms there's at least one mafia. Maybe just one, I don't know. Maybe they don't have a night kill? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChopBam Posted October 25, 2018 Report Share Posted October 25, 2018 1 minute ago, iLikeToSnipe said: Just reread the D1 post, I feel like the wording confirms there's at least one mafia. Maybe just one, I don't know. Maybe they don't have a night kill? I think there's room for at least one mafia player. There are so many defensive roles in this game, it's easily explained how there've been so few nightkills. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iLikeToSnipe Posted October 25, 2018 Report Share Posted October 25, 2018 7 minutes ago, ChopBam said: I think there's room for at least one mafia player. There are so many defensive roles in this game, it's easily explained how there've been so few nightkills. The key right now is knowing Nodlied's alignment imo. We're kind of hamstrung without that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChopBam Posted October 25, 2018 Report Share Posted October 25, 2018 2 minutes ago, iLikeToSnipe said: The key right now is knowing Nodlied's alignment imo. We're kind of hamstrung without that. Do you believe mafia bussed their own guy, counting on this conundrum of ours? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeP47 Posted October 25, 2018 Report Share Posted October 25, 2018 2 minutes ago, ChopBam said: Do you believe mafia bussed their own guy, counting on this conundrum of ours? When the situation is hopeless, busing is just natural. Honestly I don't see why people have such an aversion to it, especially on this site. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iLikeToSnipe Posted October 25, 2018 Report Share Posted October 25, 2018 7 minutes ago, ChopBam said: Do you believe mafia bussed their own guy, counting on this conundrum of ours? Bussing is okay when you've consulted with your teammate or the situation is just salvageable. I've done so in the past for both situations. If I were a scum teammate of Nodlied's in that situation I would have 100% bussed him. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shade939 Posted October 25, 2018 Report Share Posted October 25, 2018 By the way @OrangeP47, we better not hear any word of your malpractice in the future... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeP47 Posted October 25, 2018 Report Share Posted October 25, 2018 2 minutes ago, Shade939 said: By the way @OrangeP47, we better not hear any word of your malpractice in the future... Did you not hear of the guy who chewed his own arm off and is now living under the floorboards? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shade939 Posted October 25, 2018 Report Share Posted October 25, 2018 1 minute ago, OrangeP47 said: Did you not hear of the guy who chewed his own arm off and is now living under the floorboards? Aaron Ralston? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeP47 Posted October 25, 2018 Report Share Posted October 25, 2018 Just now, Shade939 said: Aaron Ralston? It was in that audio-diary I linked. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shade939 Posted October 25, 2018 Report Share Posted October 25, 2018 2 minutes ago, OrangeP47 said: It was in that audio-diary I linked. Don't recall it? 48 minutes ago, OrangeP47 said: TBH I've considered that as well, though not heavily. Something has to be going on to counteract the fact we didn't get public flips. Category 5 did claim he was responsible for that, so I'd assume the effects might have cleared up after his death, in order to cast doubt and suspicion on his alignment if he comes back or another player does. 51 minutes ago, iLikeToSnipe said: Something is reeeaaaaaalllllllyyyyy fishy with this setup. I almost feel like it's just town, neutrals, and third party. It's possible, the only real difference is I'd expect a few more TP's running around than normal to offset them being uncoordinated. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeP47 Posted October 25, 2018 Report Share Posted October 25, 2018 Linked again then, it's near the beginning: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killing_You Posted October 25, 2018 Report Share Posted October 25, 2018 1 hour ago, iLikeToSnipe said: Okay... @Killing_You why didn't you shoot the neutral with the guilty read? Guilty =/= Scum, it seems. I thought he may have been scum or third party, depending on the situation. I'm making dinner right now and then I'll be spending some quality time with the lady, and then I'll be back to reassess the situation. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killing_You Posted October 25, 2018 Report Share Posted October 25, 2018 PLAYER ROLE CLAIMED ALIGNMENT Killing You Armed Cop Town OrangeP47 Jailer Neutral Jeod Role Copy Machine Town iLikeToSnipe Vengeful Doctor Town Shade939 Jack-of-all-Trades Town Nodlied Hider Neutral Category 5 Hurricane Dead Whisperer Town ChopBam Tracker Town Sunflower Watcher Town Verti60 Lynchproof Town If I were to guess, I'd say that Nodlied may have been scum, and may have been bussed. I don't know; we have three dead players and no definitive confirmations on their alignments. Yesterday might warrant a much closer look. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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