Games [Game Over] Game of Thrones Conquest Mafia RPG

[Jeod]

I have a full day of work ahead of me so won't have time for discussion except for very short windows. Hopefully I'll be on a half hour or so before hammer assuming it's at the usual time and not delayed by two hours. If it is delayed by two hours again, I'll have time to catch up. My vote remains on Voe.

[TheIrishman]

The only thing I'm slightly bothered by is whether Rubeci was actually sent to the wall since Jeod said he didn't get anything from Rubeci when he was sent, in addition to Rubeci saying that he still has his religion bonuses to use (do we know if those are taken upon arrival at the wall?). But we should at least wait until Day 4 (technically D3) before we follow that thread as it doesn't appear we'd do any good attacking/voting him until we know we have someone on the wall - especially because they'd be able to confirm right away Rubeci's status.

Although, Rubeci, if you'd humor me, mind trying to vote anyone?

Options to send to the wall today and how okay I am with each:

Sunflower -40%, Retaliation - 50%, Louis - 30%, Orange - 30%, Voe - 60%, Shade - 40%, Cat5 - 10%.

##Vote Voe

[Louis]

@TheIrishman I didn't do anything night one and I don't have a bonuses for my religion

[Sunflower]

Irish, my action n1 was also to send Orange an alliance proposal, which he already confirmed that he received and accepted.

I think you misunderstood what I meant when I said that elimination is automatic. I meant that it says when the king tries to eliminate someone, the loyal houses don't get to choose how many troops support that. It happens automatically in some kind of an equal distribution among the houses. But the elimination itself isn't automatic. The invasion can fail if the rebels are too strong. I complimented your plan because I thought it was kinda smart. It makes sense that the king might be able to find out about the rebels that way, and I still think that it could work. But you omitted the part about how I was opposed to actually attacking rubeci because of Verti's warning about it probably being hard. Also what's with the baseless speculation about my character and house? Just because we talked about how we liked her a few months ago in PMs? Guess I was right about rebel hunting not earning me any friends.

##vote Irish

[Louis]

32 minutes ago, Sunflower said:

Also what's with the baseless speculation about my character and house? Just because we talked about how we liked her a few months ago in PMs? Guess I was right about rebel hunting not earning me any friends.

##vote Irish

That's very true actually @TheIrishman how would you know what she is when she's barely hinted towards what/who she is, you'd better have viable evidence to know what she is, unless you were to have an ability to see who someone is

[rubeci]

3 hours ago, TheIrishman said:

Although, Rubeci, if you'd humor me, mind trying to vote anyone?

What do you mean?

[Jeod]

56 minutes ago, Louis said:

That's very true actually @TheIrishman how would you know what she is when she's barely hinted towards what/who she is, you'd better have viable evidence to know what she is, unless you were to have an ability to see who someone is

I’d like to know as well. At first I thought perhaps she’d softed it somewhere but since she herself asked you, are you just basing that off her PM conversation with you?

[TheIrishman]

So you are scum then, Sunflower? Because I'm talking about the ability all of us should have that allows us to send up to 25% of our troops, implying we can choose how many.

yeah, my guess about Targaryan is baseless except on my knowledge of the player herself, but it sounds like I'm right :b

[OrangeP47]

3 minutes ago, TheIrishman said:

So you are scum then, Sunflower? Because I'm talking about the ability all of us should have that allows us to send up to 25% of our troops, implying we can choose how many.

yeah, my guess about Targaryan is baseless except on my knowledge of the player herself, but it sounds like I'm right :b

That's for defense against rebel attacks.  For eliminating a player we have to commit forces to help.

[Jeod]

10 minutes ago, TheIrishman said:

So you are scum then, Sunflower? Because I'm talking about the ability all of us should have that allows us to send up to 25% of our troops, implying we can choose how many.

yeah, my guess about Targaryan is baseless except on my knowledge of the player herself, but it sounds like I'm right :b

I don’t know anything about the character. Dangerous?

[Shade939]

33 minutes ago, Jeod said:

I don’t know anything about the character. Dangerous?

https://gameofthrones.fandom.com/wiki/Daenerys_Targaryen

One of the main contenders for the Throne in the series at least.

[Jeod]

Interesting. A character who doesn’t need to rely on religion to get things done. She sounds like an egoist.

[OrangeP47]

Just now, Jeod said:

She sounds like an egoist.

Given how you entered the game, that's rich

[Shade939]

2 minutes ago, Jeod said:

Interesting. A character who doesn’t need to rely on religion to get things done. She sounds like an egoist.

Technically, Dragons are a religion in this game so.

[Jeod]

True, she’s probably Valyrian. Which means that she isn’t a threat yet. Stay the course.

[OrangeP47]

I know Sunflower likes Daenerys, but I figured that house would be a popular choice (what with dragons and such), so there's no guarantee she got that character even if she wanted it.

[Sunflower]

1 hour ago, Jeod said:

I don’t know anything about the character. Dangerous?

She was an orphan that came from pretty much nothing and even sold to a man and eventually came to care for dragons and lead armies. She has a ton of titles but one of them is the Breaker of Chains because she freed the slaves from their masters and they joined her willingly to fight for her because she gave them the choice if they wanted to or not. She promised them they could leave if they wanted to. I'd say that says a lot about her character. Her dragons like her too! Yeah she wanted to be queen. That's why they call it the game of thrones. Most of them want it. It's not her fault that the writers of the GoT HBO series went a little crazy in the last 2 seasons.  None of the characters are exactly paragons of virtue anyways.

The player who's playing as her or her house could be important for fighting the white walkers too, since one of their main weaknesses is fire. In the series, some of the Houses even allied with her because they thought she would crucial to fight back against the undead. So she could be dangerous but also important and helpful.

[Jeod]

Her morality and character in the series don't amount to much when it comes to Verti60 mafia games. Logically speaking--and simpliying--, Daenerys fits the bill for a third party "secure the throne at all costs" role, because the character feels entitled to it. However, Valyrians appear to be specifically a late-game mechanic. I see no reason to pursue Sunflower further at the present time.

[Jeod]

*simplifying

[OrangeP47]

1 minute ago, Jeod said:

Her morality and character in the series don't amount to much when it comes to Verti60 mafia games. Logically speaking--and simpliying--, Daenerys fits the bill for a third party "secure the throne at all costs" role, because the character feels entitled to it. However, Valyrians appear to be specifically a late-game mechanic. I see no reason to pursue Sunflower further at the present time.

I mean, we already found the third party 

[Jeod]

Just now, OrangeP47 said:

I mean, we already found the third party 

There are plenty of characters who could be third party.

[OrangeP47]

Just now, Jeod said:

There are plenty of characters who could be third party.

I mean technically if the rebellion outnumbers the loyalists and the king fights on the rest of the loyalists get the chance to peace out and that's third party it sounds like

[Shade939]

##Vote Voe

I'm not certain we'd really have multiple TP's in game considering how easily a normal player can swap their alignment around, it's chaotic enough.

[OrangeP47]

TBH I want to hear what Voe has to say when he comes back... if he comes back...

[Louis]

It's almost hammer time and he hasn't said his case

[OrangeP47]

Three and a half hours is nothing to sneeze at, and I'll be here to react as need be.

[Sunflower]

2 hours ago, TheIrishman said:

So you are scum then, Sunflower? Because I'm talking about the ability all of us should have that allows us to send up to 25% of our troops, implying we can choose how many.

yeah, my guess about Targaryan is baseless except on my knowledge of the player herself, but it sounds like I'm right :b

I'm not. That ability is only for defense. The invasion works different like I said. I bet the rebels know all of each others houses tho. And they know rubeci and Jeod. So that only leaves 5 players for them to sort through if there's 3 of them now to help them with their baseless guesses. 

[Retaliation]

Distracted voe is something I would expect if he’s royalist aligned.

[Jeod]

We can always be cruel and switch to Irish

[Jeod]

My top 3 today are Voe, Irish, and Retaliation. Choose one.