Retaliation Posted November 2, 2019 Author Report Share Posted November 2, 2019 Mojo is going to be subbing for Jeod over the weekend. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louis Posted November 2, 2019 Report Share Posted November 2, 2019 @Retaliation do you know what the cvc is? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retaliation Posted November 2, 2019 Author Report Share Posted November 2, 2019 Players Votes Cat5 Chopbam FRAYDO iLikeToSnipe Jeod Category 5 Killing You Louis Louis Jeod Mojoman Nodlied OrangeP47 Sunflower 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louis Posted November 2, 2019 Report Share Posted November 2, 2019 thankksss 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunflower Posted November 2, 2019 Report Share Posted November 2, 2019 I'm kinda unhappy about Louis and Cat 5 being the main candidates because if they're really town, they're probably the people scum need lynched the most. Then again, I guess all that town protection could be too good to be true. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louis Posted November 2, 2019 Report Share Posted November 2, 2019 1 minute ago, Sunflower said: I'm kinda unhappy about Louis and Cat 5 being the main candidates because if they're really town, they're probably the people scum need lynched the most. Then again, I guess all that town protection could be too good to be true. town protection? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeP47 Posted November 2, 2019 Report Share Posted November 2, 2019 1 minute ago, Sunflower said: I'm kinda unhappy about Louis and Cat 5 being the main candidates because if they're really town, they're probably the people scum need lynched the most. Then again, I guess all that town protection could be too good to be true. I mean, if you're the doctor, you're probably the person scum needs gone the most, unless you have a secret 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunflower Posted November 2, 2019 Report Share Posted November 2, 2019 1 minute ago, Louis said: town protection? Like people that are hard to kill at night because of passives or BP or other shenanigans. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nodlied Posted November 2, 2019 Report Share Posted November 2, 2019 1 minute ago, Sunflower said: I'm kinda unhappy about Louis and Cat 5 being the main candidates because if they're really town, they're probably the people scum need lynched the most. Then again, I guess all that town protection could be too good to be true. The issue is that both of them are pretty unverified. There's also no way we can check a hider. Although Cat5's disbelief after receiving an item N1 did sound genuïne. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeP47 Posted November 2, 2019 Report Share Posted November 2, 2019 Just now, Sunflower said: Like people that are hard to kill at night because of passives or BP or other shenanigans. Oh, fair point I suppose then :P 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunflower Posted November 2, 2019 Report Share Posted November 2, 2019 1 minute ago, OrangeP47 said: I mean, if you're the doctor, you're probably the person scum needs gone the most, unless you have a secret Maybe, but as long as I guess wrong, I'm not really a problem for them. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nodlied Posted November 2, 2019 Report Share Posted November 2, 2019 Just now, OrangeP47 said: I mean, if you're the doctor, you're probably the person scum needs gone the most, unless you have a secret There's also the chance scum is betting on Sunflower not dying and pushing that as a ''there's no real doctor'', although Fraydo's story would make that difficult. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunflower Posted November 2, 2019 Report Share Posted November 2, 2019 There might be a way we can verify Cat 5 but without knowing more details about roles that people probably aren't gonna want to share, I'm not sure if it'd be smart anyway. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louis Posted November 2, 2019 Report Share Posted November 2, 2019 27 minutes ago, Sunflower said: There might be a way we can verify Cat 5 but without knowing more details about roles that people probably aren't gonna want to share, I'm not sure if it'd be smart anyway. How would you be able to do that? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunflower Posted November 2, 2019 Report Share Posted November 2, 2019 3 minutes ago, Louis said: How would you be able to do that? I dunno if I could do it myself, but if we coordinated actions between certain players and Cat 5, we might be able to prove what he did that night. It'd probably backfire somehow though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeod Posted November 2, 2019 Report Share Posted November 2, 2019 I was thinking about an angle where Cat5 and Louis are a scumteam. When Cat5 claimed Hider and said Louis wouldn't recognize it, Louis didn't ask more about the role. In combination with inability to verify, I think one if not both of them are scum. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeod Posted November 2, 2019 Report Share Posted November 2, 2019 Do we have a compiling of N2 actions yet? What if Mojoman wasn't the intended kill target? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeod Posted November 2, 2019 Report Share Posted November 2, 2019 Also is Mojoman subbing for me, or am I subbing for Mojoman? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retaliation Posted November 2, 2019 Author Report Share Posted November 2, 2019 I don't know anymore 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeod Posted November 2, 2019 Report Share Posted November 2, 2019 The Mrs. has declared tomorrow a lazy rest day, so I'll be here after all. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killing_You Posted November 2, 2019 Report Share Posted November 2, 2019 49 minutes ago, Jeod said: I was thinking about an angle where Cat5 and Louis are a scumteam. When Cat5 claimed Hider and said Louis wouldn't recognize it, Louis didn't ask more about the role. In combination with inability to verify, I think one if not both of them are scum. Not only does this make a lot of sense, but it explains a few things that have been bothering me. Specifically; the fact that neither Louis nor Cat5 had verifiable claims either night, the fact that both of them were the only ones to be unverifiable both nights, the fact that Orange got a different result from Louis' claim, and the fact that Cat5 has continuously hid behind Louis. The only other thing that bothers me at the moment is the fact that we don't know anything about ChopBam's role, but let's set that aside for now. Instead, let's look at the discrepancy with the N2 result. Personally, I don't think it's an accident that the reports are different (especially since, in my experience at least, failing to steal someone's items still counts as "visiting" them) and that Cat5 has chosen the same person to hide behind. I have a theory: Category 5 is hiding the investigation results. Pretty much everything falls into place. Them being a scum team would explain the first two, but him having to actively hide the results explains why Orange's result was not what Louis' report was, and it would explain why Cat5 has continuously "hid behind" her. 50 minutes ago, Jeod said: Do we have a compiling of N2 actions yet? What if Mojoman wasn't the intended kill target? Here's a copy/pasta from earlier. Should've done this sooner to keep it updated. (Don't mind my added commentary regarding night actions, it's about whether they were verified or not) D1 N1 D2 N2 Category 5 <No Vote> Hid behind Louis Received item from Louis Unverified, FRAYDO kill suspect OrangeP47 Hid behind Louis Unverified, Mojo kill suspect ChopBam OrangeP47 Visited KY Unverified, FRAYDO kill suspect No Lynch Attempted to visit Nodlied Roleblocked Verified, clear in Mojo case FRAYDO FRAYDO Passed ticket to iLTS Forced to follow Jeod to Nodlied Verified, sudoku attempt implausible iLikeToSnipe Passed ticket to KY Verified, clear in Mojo case Jeod Spare Voe Masonry w/ Nodlied Verified, clear in FRAYDO case iLikeToSnipe Roleblocked Verified, clear in Mojo case Killing_You Spare Voe BUS DRIVER / Nodlied Verified, clear in FRAYDO case iLikeToSnipe BUS DRIVER / ChopBam Unverified, Mojo kill suspect Louis Spare Voe Passed item to Cat5 No action claim Unverified, FRAYDO kill suspect <No Vote> Item thief/Jeod Unverified, Mojo kill suspect Nodlied Voe Redirected to Mojoman, Forcing Dutch gimmick Verified, clear in FRAYDO case <No Vote> Was put into a pumpkin Roleblocked ChopBam and Jeod Verified, clear in Mojo case OrangeP47 Voe Masonry w/ KY Used rolecop item on FRAYDO Verified, clear in FRAYDO case iLikeToSnipe RNG Tracker/Louis Pass Profiler/Unknown Unverified, Mojo kill suspect Sunflower Voe Doctored FRAYDO Verified, clear in FRAYDO case No Lynch Doctored Orange Unverified, Mojo kill suspect iLikeToSnipe Voe Received ticket from FRAYDO Gave FRAYDO bonus action Verified, clear in FRAYDO case No Lynch / Dead - Mojoman Jeod Visited Nodlied Verified, clear in FRAYDO case <No Vote> Dead [RESULT] Effectively No Lynch NK failed, FRAYDO was saved iLTS died town Mojoman died town 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeod Posted November 2, 2019 Report Share Posted November 2, 2019 KY, just to confirm, when you drive a player, do you redirect the actions of players targeting your target, or do you redirect the actions of your target? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeod Posted November 2, 2019 Report Share Posted November 2, 2019 Derp ignore that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeod Posted November 2, 2019 Report Share Posted November 2, 2019 @FRAYDO What's your ticket item do? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeP47 Posted November 2, 2019 Report Share Posted November 2, 2019 Just now, Jeod said: @FRAYDO What's your ticket item do? For what it's worth, my report on him doesn't specify this intermediate step of the ticket, but it's basically confirmed now, so, eh.... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeod Posted November 2, 2019 Report Share Posted November 2, 2019 I suppose KY can also answer that question. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killing_You Posted November 2, 2019 Report Share Posted November 2, 2019 Just now, Jeod said: I suppose KY can also answer that question. My PM doesn't specify, but based on the info Orange got from copping FRAYDO, I'm his "heir," so to speak. I just need to stay alive and hold the ticket for him to win, in the event that he dies. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeod Posted November 2, 2019 Report Share Posted November 2, 2019 3 minutes ago, Killing_You said: My PM doesn't specify, but based on the info Orange got from copping FRAYDO, I'm his "heir," so to speak. I just need to stay alive and hold the ticket for him to win, in the event that he dies. That sounds like a balanced neutral role--pass an item to whoever you think will survive to the end of the game, and win if they do. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeod Posted November 2, 2019 Report Share Posted November 2, 2019 Yeah, Cat5 claiming Bernadetta is unverifiable unfortunately. He's probably a variant of Edelgard or Hubert for all we know. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louis Posted November 2, 2019 Report Share Posted November 2, 2019 1 hour ago, Jeod said: I was thinking about an angle where Cat5 and Louis are a scumteam. When Cat5 claimed Hider and said Louis wouldn't recognize it, Louis didn't ask more about the role. In combination with inability to verify, I think one if not both of them are scum. I mean the explaination Cat5 said about what a hider did was good, I didn't have to ask more. Why does me not asking more irk you more that I'm scum. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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