Jeod Posted October 29, 2018 Report Share Posted October 29, 2018 Just now, ChopBam said: You just can't sit still if you don't know everything. Attorneys don't ever sit still. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChopBam Posted October 29, 2018 Report Share Posted October 29, 2018 I don't blame you much though, that is quite a discrepancy in the claims and what we're observing elsewhere. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeod Posted October 29, 2018 Report Share Posted October 29, 2018 Just now, Jeod said: I have to go to work soon, so I'll leave those questions open. However, if I take the angle that you made a genuine slip for N2 and didn't think I would be able to return (or not as easily/quickly), then it leads straight into you giving Sunflower the bus to give yourself an alibi, as the others had at the time not called out the N2 contradiction as much, and I wouldn't be able to verify it--thereby allowing you to postulate that "scum" caused it. Quoted for #newpage 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChopBam Posted October 29, 2018 Report Share Posted October 29, 2018 1 minute ago, Shade939 said: You know, I wonder if a roleblocker would help Scum bypass some of these protective abilities or not... What about the "protection" that Orange's RB offered though..? If it's a scum RB, was it not meant to protect against nightkills, and rather keep information from getting out if they were copped/tracked? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shade939 Posted October 29, 2018 Report Share Posted October 29, 2018 1 minute ago, Jeod said: Quoted for #newpage Yep, let's ignore everything Orange has been doing to help Mafia so far. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shade939 Posted October 29, 2018 Report Share Posted October 29, 2018 Just now, ChopBam said: What about the "protection" that Orange's RB offered though..? If it's a scum RB, was it not meant to protect against nightkills, and rather keep information from getting out if they were copped/tracked? Hugh, we actually do have proof that you couldn't target his target before don't we? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shade939 Posted October 29, 2018 Report Share Posted October 29, 2018 Still doens't change the fact that Orange that Orange roleblocked the Doctor last night that KY died you know... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChopBam Posted October 29, 2018 Report Share Posted October 29, 2018 3 minutes ago, Jeod said: I have to go to work soon, so I'll leave those questions open. However, if I take the angle that you made a genuine slip for N2 and didn't think I would be able to return (or not as easily/quickly), then it leads straight into you giving Sunflower the bus to give yourself an alibi, as the others had at the time not called out the N2 contradiction as much, and I wouldn't be able to verify it--thereby allowing you to postulate that "scum" caused it. The converse is also true. There are still several valid explanations for my N2 target having gone "nowhere" when I tried to visit you. A one-time switch. Perhaps a catch on the nightkill that makes the nightkill target switch anybody else who tried to visit the nightkill target. Perhaps another hidden effect or ability. In my mind, since everything that is being offered as information is already out on the table, it's pointless to speculate now. Either you believe me or you don't, but if you took my meta, I wouldn't bus that hard against a scummate when the situation was not that desperate, and most definitely not Sunflower cause she's too nice. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChopBam Posted October 29, 2018 Report Share Posted October 29, 2018 Meanwhile Shade is the one talking sense here. 1 minute ago, Shade939 said: Still doens't change the fact that Orange that Orange roleblocked the Doctor last night that KY died you know... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shade939 Posted October 29, 2018 Report Share Posted October 29, 2018 But let's just ignore inconvenient details, like KY's report on Orange also. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shade939 Posted October 29, 2018 Report Share Posted October 29, 2018 It's not like KY didn't state Orange was hostile or anything based on his ability did he? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeP47 Posted October 29, 2018 Report Share Posted October 29, 2018 One last comment before I head out the door, I blocked ILTS because of you Shade. You were telling the truth about your lynchproof, and that put ilts back in play as your opposite. I'd think you'd be a little more grateful 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shade939 Posted October 29, 2018 Report Share Posted October 29, 2018 1 minute ago, OrangeP47 said: One last comment before I head out the door, I blocked ILTS because of you Shade. You were telling the truth about your lynchproof, and that put ilts back in play as your opposite. I'd think you'd be a little more grateful Why would you care, you're neutral aren't you? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shade939 Posted October 29, 2018 Report Share Posted October 29, 2018 Wouldn't it have made more sense for you to target Verti out of anyone? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shade939 Posted October 29, 2018 Report Share Posted October 29, 2018 So, the question is, what type of ability do you think a Mafia Jailer has? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iLikeToSnipe Posted October 29, 2018 Report Share Posted October 29, 2018 1 minute ago, Shade939 said: So, the question is, what type of ability do you think a Mafia Jailer has? Come to think of it, do we even know for certain that he's a jailer and not a roleblocker? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeod Posted October 29, 2018 Report Share Posted October 29, 2018 Who did orange jail on N2? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shade939 Posted October 29, 2018 Report Share Posted October 29, 2018 Just now, iLikeToSnipe said: Come to think of it, do we even know for certain that he's a jailer and not a roleblocker? I think Chopbam claims to have used an ability on one of his targets one night that failed. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shade939 Posted October 29, 2018 Report Share Posted October 29, 2018 1 minute ago, Jeod said: Who did orange jail on N2? KY, and KY later said he got a hostile result on Orange didn't he? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChopBam Posted October 29, 2018 Report Share Posted October 29, 2018 3 minutes ago, iLikeToSnipe said: Come to think of it, do we even know for certain that he's a jailer and not a roleblocker? I tried tracking Sunflower N3 but I couldn't. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeod Posted October 29, 2018 Report Share Posted October 29, 2018 4 minutes ago, Shade939 said: KY, and KY later said he got a hostile result on Orange didn't he? Yes, but it could be because he’s neutral. Since you’re so adamant on orange, how about you explain chopbam’s n2 problem. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shade939 Posted October 29, 2018 Report Share Posted October 29, 2018 Just now, Jeod said: Yes, but it could be because he’s neutral. Since you’re so adamant on orange, how about you explain chopbam’s n2 problem. I believe I have pointed out already the simple problem that results from what message to give a Tracker tracking someone following him. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shade939 Posted October 29, 2018 Report Share Posted October 29, 2018 @ChopBam, what does your path of the jedi ability do exactly? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeod Posted October 29, 2018 Report Share Posted October 29, 2018 5 minutes ago, Shade939 said: I believe I have pointed out already the simple problem that results from what message to give a Tracker tracking someone following him. And you’ve been told several times by several people that it’s incorrect. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChopBam Posted October 29, 2018 Report Share Posted October 29, 2018 4 minutes ago, Shade939 said: @ChopBam, what does your path of the jedi ability do exactly? Curseproof. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shade939 Posted October 29, 2018 Report Share Posted October 29, 2018 1 minute ago, ChopBam said: Curseproof. So, we have a curseproof watcher, vs. a role that randomizes the target of player who curses players who visit them? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shade939 Posted October 29, 2018 Report Share Posted October 29, 2018 Just now, Shade939 said: So, we have a curseproof watcher, vs. a role that randomizes the target of player who curses players who visit them? Orange has an ability that literally interferes with other Town actions, and Chopbam has an ability to counteract that allowing him to actually use his main ability. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChopBam Posted October 29, 2018 Report Share Posted October 29, 2018 1 minute ago, Shade939 said: Orange has an ability that literally interferes with other Town actions, and Chopbam has an ability to counteract that allowing him to actually use his main ability. Lol I feel like I can see the case against me better than you can. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeod Posted October 29, 2018 Report Share Posted October 29, 2018 2 minutes ago, Shade939 said: So, we have a curseproof watcher, vs. a role that randomizes the target of player who curses players who visit them? 1 minute ago, Shade939 said: Orange has an ability that literally interferes with other Town actions, and Chopbam has an ability to counteract that allowing him to actually use his main ability. *tracker and yes, which is why it’s strange that chopbam’s N2 target visited nobody—i was the intended target and I did visit. Ugh, shade being shade. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChopBam Posted October 29, 2018 Report Share Posted October 29, 2018 3 minutes ago, Jeod said: Ugh, shade being shade. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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