OrangeP47 Posted March 9, 2019 Author Report Share Posted March 9, 2019 CVC Retaliation (3) lead for trainers Gym (3) lead for rocket Valid investigation zones: Goldenrod Gym, Goldenrod Raido Tower Current Active players 1. TheIrishman - TheIrishMan/trainer, Gym/rocket 2. Jeod - Retaliation/trainer, Gym/Rocket 3. Retaliation - Retaliation/trainer 4. Shade939 - TheIrishMan/trainer, Gym/rocket 5. Killing_You - no votes 6. Brigitte - Retaliation/trainer 7. Cat 5 - no votes 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeod Posted March 9, 2019 Report Share Posted March 9, 2019 I mean, one obvious town train of thought would be to offer to heal the accuser's Pokemon that gets injured in an investigation, however you haven't considered this route. If you were really a doctor, then this should have been one of the first few ideas to cross your mind. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeod Posted March 9, 2019 Report Share Posted March 9, 2019 Instead, you've only claimed to have a one-time revive ability and a repeated-use healing ability which you've only used on one player that we know of. And you expect us to take that claim at face value. How arrogant. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shade939 Posted March 9, 2019 Report Share Posted March 9, 2019 Name all of the Pokemon that have been injured in this game... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeod Posted March 9, 2019 Report Share Posted March 9, 2019 That isn't the point. The point is that you haven't even been trying to find other ways to prove your claim. Did you honestly think that healing Retaliation's Houndoom would make everyone insta-townread you? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeod Posted March 9, 2019 Report Share Posted March 9, 2019 This is also something that I would expect Category 5 to bring up. The mere idea that he's deadlocked on a Jeod/Brigitte scumteam goes against his character. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shade939 Posted March 9, 2019 Report Share Posted March 9, 2019 Two Pokemon. Sunflora and Wobbufett. Neither of which really needed any healing, and that's assuming those are Town Pokemon also. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shade939 Posted March 9, 2019 Report Share Posted March 9, 2019 Also Jeod, I revived Retaliation Pokemon so he has two instead of one Pokemon... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeod Posted March 9, 2019 Report Share Posted March 9, 2019 1 minute ago, Shade939 said: Also Jeod, I revived Retaliation Pokemon so he has two instead of one Pokemon... So you used one revive, big deal. In PM1, that was a Rocket-only/very rare item to come by, and if you had a solid water wtype, Houndoom wouldn't be a problem for you at all. Using a revive item to heal a town player's Pokemon is something that I would consider doing if I were scum. I'm not convinced. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeod Posted March 9, 2019 Report Share Posted March 9, 2019 On 3/7/2019 at 2:53 PM, Shade939 said: Try getting him to heal you if you lose half of your HP in one night action. On 3/7/2019 at 2:54 PM, Jeod said: Excuse me, did you just slip what your nightkill does? On 3/7/2019 at 2:56 PM, Shade939 said: Which means that Jeod can win the battle with the possibility of not getting hit once. On 3/7/2019 at 2:57 PM, Jeod said: Did you also just give away that you know your partner is battling and know their primary? Reminder of your slips. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shade939 Posted March 9, 2019 Report Share Posted March 9, 2019 10 minutes ago, Jeod said: Reminder of your slips. Right, you got me... Those are obviously Scum slips, because no one could have predicted what pokemon Category 5 or you would be using, and they certainly couldn't have come up with an idea that a Rocket night action would hurt for 50% of it's HP, which would be the opposite of what my ability does. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeod Posted March 9, 2019 Report Share Posted March 9, 2019 Right, so I outright stated that I would be using Moltres, and of course Sandslash's earthquake doesn't affect Moltres. Noticed the only thing Cat5 did to be was sand attack, too. I guess all the other moves were Ground moves, eh? As for the night action, how like you to consider Rocket actions before town actions, like figuring out ways to prove your own claimed ability. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeP47 Posted March 9, 2019 Author Report Share Posted March 9, 2019 NOTICE: Tonight is time change in the United States. Hammer will remain at 6 pm EDT, as we don't have a significant European contingent for this game. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeP47 Posted March 9, 2019 Author Report Share Posted March 9, 2019 (And Hammer is tomorrow, don't read that the wrong way) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shade939 Posted March 9, 2019 Report Share Posted March 9, 2019 4 minutes ago, Jeod said: Right, so I outright stated that I would be using Moltres, and of course Sandslash's earthquake doesn't affect Moltres. Noticed the only thing Cat5 did to be was sand attack, too. I guess all the other moves were Ground moves, eh? As for the night action, how like you to consider Rocket actions before town actions, like figuring out ways to prove your own claimed ability. Notice how the Water Pokemon, with a x2 damage bonus against you, didn't target you with a Water based attack.... And seriously Jeod, what was the next part of that plan if Category 5 killed my Heracross? They die to your Moltres? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeod Posted March 9, 2019 Report Share Posted March 9, 2019 1 minute ago, Shade939 said: Notice how the Water Pokemon, with a x2 damage bonus against you, didn't target you with a Water based attack.... And seriously Jeod, what was the next part of that plan if Category 5 killed my Heracross? They die to your Moltres? Interesting that you bring that up, because there was no plan. I'm town. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shade939 Posted March 9, 2019 Report Share Posted March 9, 2019 1 minute ago, Jeod said: Interesting that you bring that up, because there was no plan. I'm town. Jeod, if you're making these sort of arguments and your Town. Then I really don't know what to tell you... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeod Posted March 9, 2019 Report Share Posted March 9, 2019 Easy. How do you expect me to have a plan when I have no idea what Cat5 and Brigitte are bringing to the fight? The only thing I had to go on was your Heracross thanks to Brigitte, and that was just a guess. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeod Posted March 9, 2019 Report Share Posted March 9, 2019 Your arguments are slipping again. Perhaps you should wait for Cat5 to come back and guide you. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeod Posted March 9, 2019 Report Share Posted March 9, 2019 @Brigitte, you need to explain the contradiction put forward by Category 5 regarding your scouting ability. How did you see his Sandslash when he was training it to evolve the same night you were scouting it? You said yourself that your scout action doesn't account for same-night training. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brigitte Posted March 10, 2019 Report Share Posted March 10, 2019 6 hours ago, Jeod said: @Brigitte, you need to explain the contradiction put forward by Category 5 regarding your scouting ability. How did you see his Sandslash when he was training it to evolve the same night you were scouting it? You said yourself that your scout action doesn't account for same-night training. Yeah i just checked my PM log, I will confirm with @OrangeP47 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheIrishman Posted March 10, 2019 Report Share Posted March 10, 2019 9 hours ago, Jeod said: I don't mind that, actually, though I still don't buy that Shade's a true doctor role. Scum has to take down all of town, so there's no reason they wouldn't have a revive ability to help them with the effort. ##Trainer Retaliation ##Rocket Goldenrod Gym I'm a bit confused here, earlier you were leaning towards a Shade/Retaliation Scum Team and that he just revived his teammate to try and "prove" he was the Doctor and Town, but now you're voting for Retaliation to investigate - a person you suspected just before the double battle. If you really suspect that Scum has a revive, what is the point of confirming it? If Shade is Scum while Retaliation is Town, he wouldn't lie about his Pokemon getting revived so there'd be no need to prove it, while if Shade is Scum and Retaliation is Scum, you'd be giving Retal an additional 10 Levels and the victory bonus. Can you explain your train of thought? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brigitte Posted March 10, 2019 Report Share Posted March 10, 2019 And what about you Irish? What do you think? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shade939 Posted March 10, 2019 Report Share Posted March 10, 2019 2 minutes ago, Brigitte said: And what about you Irish? What do you think? He probably thinks Jeod needs to at least try making sense with some of these arguments.... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brigitte Posted March 10, 2019 Report Share Posted March 10, 2019 2 minutes ago, Shade939 said: He probably thinks Jeod needs to at least try making sense with some of these arguments.... Thankyou once again, for your minimal contribution to the discussion. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killing_You Posted March 10, 2019 Report Share Posted March 10, 2019 Gonna miss hammer tomorrow, so while I'm here, my vote's going to be between sending Irish, Retal, Jeod, or Brigitte to the Gym. I will say, though, that I'm definitely leaning more and more towards the scumteam being Shade/Cat5. Feel free to make your arguments, you have about 20 minutes before I hit the hay. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheIrishman Posted March 10, 2019 Report Share Posted March 10, 2019 1 minute ago, Brigitte said: And what about you Irish? What do you think? I think if there was a Shade/Retaliation Scum Team, his ability would have to alter the Investigations somehow outside of actually participating. Given we still don't know Retal's ability, that could be possible, but I doubt it. It'd be wayyy too powerful for Scum and would probably make this a bastard game because our "only" way to confidently search out Scum would be ruined. Although perhaps if it was a one-time ability like in one of Orange's previous games where ChopBam had an ability that made all investigative abilities insane for one night. But then that'd mean Shade or Retal had to have lied for Scyther (but probably not voltorb). In which case it'd have reasonable grounds for suspicion because everyone only mentioned all their Pokemon after the first investigation. Idk...it seems like there'd have to be a lot going on for them to be a Scum Team, but it's not an outrageous possibility. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shade939 Posted March 10, 2019 Report Share Posted March 10, 2019 Just now, TheIrishman said: I think if there was a Shade/Retaliation Scum Team, his ability would have to alter the Investigations somehow outside of actually participating. Given we still don't know Retal's ability, that could be possible, but I doubt it. It'd be wayyy too powerful for Scum and would probably make this a bastard game because our "only" way to confidently search out Scum would be ruined. Although perhaps if it was a one-time ability like in one of Orange's previous games where ChopBam had an ability that made all investigative abilities insane for one night. But then that'd mean Shade or Retal had to have lied for Scyther (but probably not voltorb). In which case it'd have reasonable grounds for suspicion because everyone only mentioned all their Pokemon after the first investigation. Idk...it seems like there'd have to be a lot going on for them to be a Scum Team, but it's not an outrageous possibility. I'm pretty certain Retaliation already claimed he got a bonus from investigations for his ability. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shade939 Posted March 10, 2019 Report Share Posted March 10, 2019 4 minutes ago, Killing_You said: Gonna miss hammer tomorrow, so while I'm here, my vote's going to be between sending Irish, Retal, Jeod, or Brigitte to the Gym. I will say, though, that I'm definitely leaning more and more towards the scumteam being Shade/Cat5. Feel free to make your arguments, you have about 20 minutes before I hit the hay. I'm the Town Doctor and have already revived another players Pokemon and brought it back to full health. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retaliation Posted March 10, 2019 Report Share Posted March 10, 2019 1 minute ago, Shade939 said: I'm pretty certain Retaliation already claimed he got a bonus from investigations for his ability. Nope. Was trying to see if the egg needed an investigation to hatch. 5 minutes ago, TheIrishman said: I think if there was a Shade/Retaliation Scum Team, his ability would have to alter the Investigations somehow outside of actually participating. Given we still don't know Retal's ability, that could be possible, but I doubt it. It'd be wayyy too powerful for Scum and would probably make this a bastard game because our "only" way to confidently search out Scum would be ruined. Although perhaps if it was a one-time ability like in one of Orange's previous games where ChopBam had an ability that made all investigative abilities insane for one night. But then that'd mean Shade or Retal had to have lied for Scyther (but probably not voltorb). In which case it'd have reasonable grounds for suspicion because everyone only mentioned all their Pokemon after the first investigation. Idk...it seems like there'd have to be a lot going on for them to be a Scum Team, but it's not an outrageous possibility. Claiming my ability wouldn't do anything to help my case atm. You can tell I don't have a scyther because it is not a chicken (or chickenhound). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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