Category 5 Hurricane Posted November 21, 2020 Report Share Posted November 21, 2020 Yeah, and I actually misinterpreted my own role and counted on it roleblocking a NK when it would just penalize the person who killed me. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shade939 Posted November 21, 2020 Report Share Posted November 21, 2020 Also, I probably triggered dead players passives for visiting them with my raise action. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retaliation Posted November 21, 2020 Report Share Posted November 21, 2020 Just now, Shade939 said: The BP was only immediately after he killed someone using his day kill though. If he gets a kill on TP/Mafia that's a really strong indicator he's town. Not a full confirmation, but it makes him a high priority target for the next night kill. Fortunately for us his suspicions were way off when he killed Louis. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Category 5 Hurricane Posted November 21, 2020 Report Share Posted November 21, 2020 Just now, Shade939 said: Also, I like how Jeod says he'll let you use any crazy idea you have, and basically everyone shows up with a bunch of passive characters. I'll restate that I didn't design my role like this. I actually had a different idea entirely. Using the Nosferatu and Silence tomes were backup ideas. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shade939 Posted November 21, 2020 Report Share Posted November 21, 2020 Just now, Category 5 Hurricane said: I'll restate that I didn't design my role like this. I actually had a different idea entirely. Using the Nosferatu and Silence tomes were backup ideas. I feel like an axe was your primary role idea for some reason... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retaliation Posted November 21, 2020 Report Share Posted November 21, 2020 Just now, Category 5 Hurricane said: I'll restate that I didn't design my role like this. I actually had a different idea entirely. Using the Nosferatu and Silence tomes were backup ideas. Yeah I'm not blaming you or even Jeod who obviously had a lot of time restrictions on running the game. I'm more just lamenting Orange and I playing a good game and losing to a role that did everything. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChopBam Posted November 21, 2020 Report Share Posted November 21, 2020 11 minutes ago, Retaliation said: Yeah I'm not blaming you or even Jeod who obviously had a lot of time restrictions on running the game. I'm more just lamenting Orange and I playing a good game and losing to a role that did everything. Well it makes sense when the rest of the town had roles that did nothing 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Category 5 Hurricane Posted November 21, 2020 Report Share Posted November 21, 2020 It was a very strange game, but I think it turned out well. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retaliation Posted November 21, 2020 Report Share Posted November 21, 2020 8 minutes ago, ChopBam said: Well it makes sense when the rest of the town had roles that did nothing Passive roleblock is basically as good as NK immunity this game is it not? We were basically TP resistant vanilla scum. 4 minutes ago, Category 5 Hurricane said: It was a very strange game, but I think it turned out well. I really really liked how this was a game that felt like it was supposed to be won in the day phase and I'm just sad that it ended up being decided by some really bad night action luck instead. I complained a lot about you not going guns blazing in the forum and scum doc, but I knew it was actually smart. Shooting me on a whim would have been the worst possible choice. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeod Posted November 21, 2020 Author Report Share Posted November 21, 2020 You people give me far too much credit, thinking I actually took considerations and didn't just slap all your disgusting ingredients together. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retaliation Posted November 21, 2020 Report Share Posted November 21, 2020 1 minute ago, Jeod said: You people give me far too much credit, thinking I actually took considerations and didn't just slap all your disgusting ingredients together. It's actually kind of hilarious how well it turned out. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shade939 Posted November 21, 2020 Report Share Posted November 21, 2020 Statistically, I don't think Town should have won this game. It was mainly a battle between the Scum players to see which of them could beat the other Scum in game, while Town mainly sat around and watched and acted as targets for them to use their abilities on and get lynched instead. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retaliation Posted November 21, 2020 Report Share Posted November 21, 2020 1 minute ago, Shade939 said: Statistically, I don't think Town should have won this game. It was a mainly a battle between the Scum players to see which of them could beat the other Scum in game, while Town mainly sat around and watched and acted as targets for them to use their abilities on and get lynched instead. What abilities are we talking about here exactly? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retaliation Posted November 21, 2020 Report Share Posted November 21, 2020 Actually I'm not sure if you're talking about how the game played out or how you would expect the game to have played out looking at rolesheets. I'd agree with you if you're talking about how town played the game overall. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shade939 Posted November 21, 2020 Report Share Posted November 21, 2020 Just now, Retaliation said: Actually I'm not sure if you're talking about how the game played out or how you would expect the game to have played out looking at rolesheets. I'd agree with you if you're talking about how town played the game overall. Town really never stood a chance of controlling the day vote with this setup. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retaliation Posted November 21, 2020 Report Share Posted November 21, 2020 Just now, Shade939 said: Town really never stood a chance of controlling the day vote with this setup. They started with a mason and 4/7 of town players were resistant to/punished NK attempts in some fashion. The problem was half of the town players weren't participating. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shade939 Posted November 21, 2020 Report Share Posted November 21, 2020 1 minute ago, Retaliation said: They started with a mason and 4/7 of town players were resistant to/punished NK attempts in some fashion. The problem was half of the town players weren't participating. There was literally a cult in game... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shade939 Posted November 21, 2020 Report Share Posted November 21, 2020 And then the ratio of Town to other factions was the following. 58% to 42%, each player weighed in at around 8% of a vote. By the first NK alone, Town only had 50% of the votes in game. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retaliation Posted November 21, 2020 Report Share Posted November 21, 2020 1 minute ago, Shade939 said: There was literally a cult in game... Was iLTS a full fledged cult? I don't see what becoming a crewmate actually did in the role sheet. I don't see how the presence of a cult is relevant. If it broke the game, that's because cults are broken. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nodlied Posted November 21, 2020 Report Share Posted November 21, 2020 2 hours ago, Retaliation said: I knew you'd like my role Spoiler 1 hour ago, Category 5 Hurricane said: Yeah, and I actually misinterpreted my own role and counted on it roleblocking a NK when it would just penalize the person who killed me. Don't worry, remember that @Voe once believed his allies to be his enemies despite his role stating that they were under his control... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ChopBam Posted November 21, 2020 Report Share Posted November 21, 2020 1 hour ago, Retaliation said: We were basically TP resistant vanilla scum. Is that your defense? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retaliation Posted November 21, 2020 Report Share Posted November 21, 2020 2 hours ago, ChopBam said: Is that your defense? I'd like for you to point at a town role we could have interacted with. I guess cat5's day kill in my case. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shade939 Posted November 21, 2020 Report Share Posted November 21, 2020 45 minutes ago, Retaliation said: I'd like for you to point at a town role we could have interacted with. I guess cat5's day kill in my case. So, you're stating you were immune to all of the Town night actions already? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retaliation Posted November 21, 2020 Report Share Posted November 21, 2020 Just now, Shade939 said: So, you're stating you were immune to all of the Town night actions already? That's why I had to out myself D4. To make it balanced. Now that I know the dayblock and roleblock were from the same ability, I think cat5 would have caught on when there was no kill N4. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shade939 Posted November 21, 2020 Report Share Posted November 21, 2020 1 minute ago, Retaliation said: That's why I had to out myself D4. To make it balanced. Now that I know the dayblock and roleblock were from the same ability, I think cat5 would have caught on when there was no kill N4. It was more of a Mafia vs. Cult game than Mafia vs. Town. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retaliation Posted November 21, 2020 Report Share Posted November 21, 2020 *shrug* I'd keep nitpicking but I think this was a game where we could do that to oblivion and nothing of value would be gained. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Category 5 Hurricane Posted November 21, 2020 Report Share Posted November 21, 2020 Gotta say, I can't remember the last time a game has stressed me out as much as this one. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retaliation Posted November 21, 2020 Report Share Posted November 21, 2020 10 minutes ago, Category 5 Hurricane said: Gotta say, I can't remember the last time a game has stressed me out as much as this one. In hindsight I should have just went with Orange's idea of killing you D1, but killing active town always makes for such boring games. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iLikeToSnipe Posted November 21, 2020 Report Share Posted November 21, 2020 53 minutes ago, Retaliation said: In hindsight I should have just went with Orange's idea of killing you D1, but killing active town always makes for such boring games. That's something I'd like to "fix". I quite like how games like Avalon or Secret Hitler work. Still mafia-like, but you don't end up having people sitting out for the entire game after putting in effort to join it. Not sure what the fix would be for forum mafia yet. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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