Garrus09 Posted January 28, 2015 Report Share Posted January 28, 2015 So some of you might know and some might not. The First Person View camera is set dreadfully low. I know it will take time to rerig and position weapons. However some and even most don't know that Third Person is a thing in the game and have to power through the terrible field of view. I suggest raising it to at least 90. This is the minimum for most people's acceptance in FoV terms. Thoughts? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shnappz Posted January 28, 2015 Report Share Posted January 28, 2015 In what game? I've never seen it as a problem. I didn't even know the camera position was an editable feature in w3d. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrus09 Posted January 28, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 28, 2015 All games. The field of view in the W3D games are in the 70s and low 80s. Note there is no Field of View slider in the graphics settings. It's a hard set thing. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallywood Posted January 28, 2015 Report Share Posted January 28, 2015 I'd like to see that (Pics yo) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrus09 Posted January 28, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 28, 2015 Note the weapon placements will need reworked so clipping is a thing. https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/56066682/game%202015-01-27%2019-43-19-91.png https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/56066682/game%202015-01-27%2019-43-32-31.png https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/56066682/game%202015-01-27%2019-43-42-32.png 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OWA Posted January 28, 2015 Report Share Posted January 28, 2015 It'd be good to get the FoV set to 90, but we'd have to a take a look at how the weapons are rigged up in order to do that. I can always get in touch with Eggman891 and get him to maybe give me a crash course. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallywood Posted January 28, 2015 Report Share Posted January 28, 2015 That is pretty cool 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madrox8 Posted January 28, 2015 Report Share Posted January 28, 2015 i NEEEEEEEEEEEEEED it 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyryle Posted January 28, 2015 Report Share Posted January 28, 2015 Quake Pro FoV go : 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrus09 Posted January 28, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 28, 2015 In what game? I've never seen it as a problem. I didn't even know the camera position was an editable feature in w3d. It's not so much a problem for everyone as it is a problem for still quite a few. Total Biscuit takes most FPS games seriously when it comes to graphics settings and FoV sliders are a pet peev. He almost refuses to play any shooter with a low FoV slider because it gives him headaches. I get headaches after playing CoD for to long. http://youtu.be/AAgc43e-zp4?t=2m38s CoD Ghosts also has no FoV slider. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danpaul88 Posted January 28, 2015 Report Share Posted January 28, 2015 The problem is that FoV in W3D is per-camera type, which means there is no such thing as a universal modifiable value. I wonder how hard it would be to add a slider that scales ALL FoV values in cameras.ini by a percentage, so the middle would be 100% and you can scale from 80% to 120% or something..... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaokiP Posted January 28, 2015 Report Share Posted January 28, 2015 90 is a bit overkill IMO. Something around 75-85 works best for my tastes, but the current version is way too limiting indeed. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrus09 Posted January 28, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 28, 2015 105 is the sweet spot because you can work peripheral vision. Keep in mind that FoV is the degree scale. 90 degrees is in no where near an over kill. Quake Pro FoV is overkill. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaokiP Posted January 28, 2015 Report Share Posted January 28, 2015 Idunno, I guess it varies from person to person. I hate how warped everything on the sides gets at high FOV, and it gives me the impression that the camera is positioned way behind where it should be. Different strokes... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voe Posted January 28, 2015 Report Share Posted January 28, 2015 Note the weapon placements will need reworked so clipping is a thing. https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/56066682/game%202015-01-27%2019-43-19-91.png https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/56066682/game%202015-01-27%2019-43-32-31.png https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/56066682/game%202015-01-27%2019-43-42-32.png Legendary. When will this become a thing? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moonsense715 Posted January 28, 2015 Report Share Posted January 28, 2015 Idunno, I guess it varies from person to person. I hate how warped everything on the sides gets at high FOV, and it gives me the impression that the camera is positioned way behind where it should be. Different strokes... I'll agree here the camera feels very wrong. I tried it on AR before too. It looks weird on the side-ends. If anything I'm okay with a per-player-setting but please don't force everyone to 90 fov. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
triattack Posted January 28, 2015 Report Share Posted January 28, 2015 Idunno, I guess it varies from person to person. I hate how warped everything on the sides gets at high FOV, and it gives me the impression that the camera is positioned way behind where it should be. Different strokes... I'll agree here the camera feels very wrong. I tried it on AR before too. It looks weird on the side-ends. If anything I'm okay with a per-player-setting but please don't force everyone to 90 fov. i have to agree with this as a client side option it's fine but as long as it's not forced. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rackz Posted January 28, 2015 Report Share Posted January 28, 2015 (edited) Note the weapon placements will need reworked so clipping is a thing. https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/56066682/game%202015-01-27%2019-43-19-91.png https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/56066682/game%202015-01-27%2019-43-32-31.png https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/56066682/game%202015-01-27%2019-43-42-32.png you can fix those hand positions in levelEdit easy with the weapon offset settings. there you can adjust X Y Z. also you can adjust it per weapon, just edit the weapon preset. if you use a higher field of view, then realistic scaled house/citys would look weird and to small and thin :stare: also it eats more fps. i dont wanna shoot stickmans dude. Edited January 28, 2015 by rackz 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrus09 Posted January 28, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 28, 2015 Frame rate was steady at 60. Reborn isn't exactly a FPS heavy game. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madrox8 Posted January 29, 2015 Report Share Posted January 29, 2015 pretty much in my opinion atm ya it is. i never touch first person right now 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrus09 Posted January 29, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 29, 2015 So 3rd person is jsut better, right? Would you rather see most of everything around you? or would you rather look through a box restricting most of your actual eye sight... Seems pretty one sided. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChAoS Posted January 29, 2015 Report Share Posted January 29, 2015 It is more difficult to rig for 90 fov. I use that fov in like team fortress 2. It allways looked strange in w3d though. haha, if it was my choice I would just disable first person 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killing_You Posted January 29, 2015 Report Share Posted January 29, 2015 First person my preferred mode. I've tried playing in third person again and again, but for some reason it just doesn't suit me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rackz Posted January 29, 2015 Report Share Posted January 29, 2015 actually third person feels slower so its easyer normally 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyryle Posted January 29, 2015 Report Share Posted January 29, 2015 I primarily play in 3rd person with its free-aim/V-aim mode, but I alternate to 1st person for when I need my shots to count. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OWA Posted January 29, 2015 Report Share Posted January 29, 2015 It is more difficult to rig for 90 fov. I use that fov in like team fortress 2. It allways looked strange in w3d though. haha, if it was my choice I would just disable first person We could always have a look at rigging the arms up for 90 degrees FoV. I imagine that spacing the arms further apart from each other would help. We can get together and consult Eggfeg about it for sure! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moonsense715 Posted January 29, 2015 Report Share Posted January 29, 2015 I don't know of an option to use different rigs for different fovs. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerrorTowers Posted January 30, 2015 Report Share Posted January 30, 2015 just dropping my two cents in for 90 FOV, it's what i use for all FPSs and i think a cap of 100 might be worth looking into... First person weapon visuals permittingon the other side, levels in W3D games aren't as tight-knit as quake and UT. which i think really should influence FOV 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerad2142 Posted February 4, 2015 Report Share Posted February 4, 2015 Please keep in mind that after Renegade moved to 4.x its FOV became dependent on your resolution 1920x1080 has a wider horizontal fov than 1024x768, but 1024x768 has a larger vertical fov than 1920x1080. So if you really want a wider field of view, just string up a bunch of monitors and slider that slider to max, just keep in mind your sacrificing vertical fov. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madrox8 Posted February 9, 2015 Report Share Posted February 9, 2015 any ETA when i can have this and not be sick to my stomach in first person? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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